News 2023 St Kilda Media Thread

[sammm]

St Kilda rediscover relevance playing typical Ross Lyon football with a twist | Jonathan Horn

The returned coach has made great strides with his team unbeaten during the opening three rounds and top of the AFL ladder

www.theguardian.com

 

[Geary Is GOAT]

Lloyd on Footy Classified thinks we had a drinking culture where players were heckled for not getting involved that has ended since David Misson and RTB arrived.

 

[XhazzafootyX]

Lloyd on Footy Classified thinks we had a drinking culture where players were heckled for not getting involved that has ended since David Misson and RTB arrived.

I dunno if they were ever heckled but if you ever went to st Kilda on a sat night you were bound to see a saints player. Dunstan acres gresh steele Marshall to name a few. Lots of party boys

 

[Dr Spaceman]

I dunno if they were ever heckled but if you ever went to st Kilda on a sat night you were bound to see a saints player. Dunstan acres gresh steele Marshall to name a few. Lots of party boys

Yeah, clearly gringo2011 ‘s great mate Lukey was a big driver of this pisshead culture, along with his goatish bestie, and both had to be booted to allow those other young fellas you mentioned to flourish

St Kilda's Luke Dunstan fined for being drunk in a public place

St Kilda's Luke Dunstan has been fined by police after being drunk in a public place early Saturday morning.

amp.theage.com.au

 

[Jayman15]

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alluded to RTB setting him straight with his somewhat sluggish performances in the preseason matches in an abc interview immediately following the Fremantle match. Checking in whether he was personally doing all the small things away from the club to get the best out of himself. RTB has his finger on the pulse and with his trusted lieutenants has been reprogramming their mindsets to a desired more professional standard than they’ve experienced before.

 

[Dard Ball Get]

Lloyd on Footy Classified thinks we had a drinking culture where players were heckled for not getting involved that has ended since David Misson and RTB arrived.

 

[LennyHayes77]

Few weeks ago it felt like 99% of the football “media” tipped us to be bottom 4, except Tim Watson.

Going into round 4, we’re top of the ladder. Doesn’t mean much with 20 rounds to go, BUT, the one constant which continues to be proved time and time again is that football media know very little and their predictions are nearly always wrong / sensationalist / capitalist & clicks driven yada yada.

Most “journalist / presenters” are condescending depending on what side of the fence u sit on teams wise, in effect that’s their trade unless there is any real news floating around.

The thing I worry about now is the media are building us up this week, making everything seem peachy and amazing. You just know in 3 weeks if we drop a couple of games they'll be right back to hanging shit on us. Nothing surer. And even if we are 3-3 all of us would have taken that in a heartbeat! But it only takes 2-3 losses in a row for the vultures to start circling again!

 

[Miha]

The thing I worry about now is the media are building us up this week, making everything seem peachy and amazing. You just know in 3 weeks if we drop a couple of games they'll be right back to hanging s**t on us. Nothing surer. And even if we are 3-3 all of us would have taken that in a heartbeat! But it only takes 2-3 losses in a row for the vultures to start circling again!

This is just general AFL media. They’re right back on the dogs after beating Lions, I personally think they still look ordinary but their opinions on teams change like the Melbourne weather, they need content

 

[Mat Mann]

St Kilda rediscover relevance playing typical Ross Lyon football with a twist | Jonathan Horn

The returned coach has made great strides with his team unbeaten during the opening three rounds and top of the AFL ladder

www.theguardian.com

what a ****ing slap in the face to the club and the players, suburban footballers wtaf, these scrubs can write any old shit cant they

 

[Dr Spaceman]

I particularly like the bit where David Misson spoke about getting the players off the piss

 

[my name was taken]

Wonder what player connection Lloyd just threw under the bus and does he hold a beer bottle wrong

 

[austinnn]

what a ******* slap in the face to the club and the players, suburban footballers wtaf, these scrubs can write any old s**t cant they

I'm not sure why you have a problem with the writer saying that some of the players he's had to bring into the injury depleted side have been from suburban leagues. Sure, he's probably just referring to one player (Caminiti), but it's hardly a slight on the club.

Overall, it's probably the most positive and fairest article about us I've ever read in The Guardian.

 

[austinnn]

To be honest, it's really disappointing that professional athletes still have a booze culture, really old school, and just amateur stuff in 2023. They ask us fans for dedication, support, and commitment, yet our own players act like its the nineties.

I'm not surprised that Ratts didn't stomp it out; I'm not saying he has a drinking problem because how would I know, but his rosy visage certainly speaks of a dude with one.

In comes a coach with enough gravitas that he doesn't have to try and be best mates with the players and shuts that loser shit in a hot second.

 

[The Cobra]

Totally agree with you.

The theme of the article is that RTB has turned the ship around despite serious injury challenges and made us relevant again. Would have thought that was pretty accurate and balanced (unlike a lot of garbage that is written).

I'm not sure why you have a problem with the writer saying that some of the players he's had to bring into the injury depleted side have been from suburban leagues. Sure, he's probably just referring to one player (Caminiti), but it's hardly a slight on the club.

Overall, it's probably the most positive and fairest article about us I've ever read in The Guardian.

 

[Munga]

Says more about Ratts, really.

 

[Sully111]

Lyon on OTC just did the same thing

'Oh its only round 3'
'They are playing the same as last year'
'The injuries are overblown'
'They were 8-3 last year'

These Kent's just hate it when we go well.

Playing like last year, FMD he doesn't even read their own stats, 17th in long kicks into the 50, and 18 with corridor play, 1st to play on. Nothing like the shambles of last year.

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Saw that and shook my head. Both Brown and Lyon completely clueless and talking absolute drivel.

 

[The Cobra]

Says more about Ratts, really.

Very interesting - take this for what it’s worth, but the son of a friend of mine is mates with a current reasonably experienced player who said after games last season they got on the beers and up to other antics (not drugs) - didn’t care about a win or a loss as long as they got a kick.

Seems to line up unfortunately so I wouldn’t necessarily dismiss Lloyd on this.

 

[MordySaint]

‘Not a three or four month fix’: Bucks predicts Ross’ Saints drop to bottom four

‘Not getting anywhere near it’: AFL great’s brutal bottom four call slams door on new coach

www.foxsports.com.au

‘Bad to disaster’: Kane Cornes’ AFL crystal ball spells doom for Ross Lyon’s St Kilda

Will the Saints have egg on their face after axing Brett Ratten for Ross Lyon? Is there a dark horse who can vie for the Rising Star award? And, what’s the rule that’s likely to frustrate AFL fans? Ever forthright, Kane Cornes makes his predictions for season 2023.

amp.theage.com.au

Kane Cornes must be reading David Kings book on being a sports commentator.

Low fruit only for these experts. LOLZ

 

[stavro#4]

To be honest, it's really disappointing that professional athletes still have a booze culture, really old school, and just amateur stuff in 2023. They ask us fans for dedication, support, and commitment, yet our own players act like its the nineties.

I'm not surprised that Ratts didn't stomp it out; I'm not saying he has a drinking problem because how would I know, but his rosy visage certainly speaks of a dude with one.

In comes a coach with enough gravitas that he doesn't have to try and be best mates with the players and shuts that loser s**t in a hot second.

Saw that and shook my head. Both Brown and Lyon completely clueless and talking absolute drivel.

Says more about Ratts, really.

Very interesting - take this for what it’s worth, but the son of a friend of mine is mates with a current reasonably experienced player who said after games last season they got on the beers and up to other antics (not drugs) - didn’t care about a win or a loss as long as they got a kick.

Seems to line up unfortunately so I wouldn’t necessarily dismiss Lloyd on this.

I’m not saying it’s 100% rubbish.

But I have never heard of the issue being players getting in the drink.

The issue especially in the last 2 years. Has been how poor of a high performance environment Moorabbin has been. Which has been evident in the lack of development and the change we are seeing so far.

So, by that - I am referring to how hard players train. I am referring to selection integrity. I am referring to clarity on role and instruction etc.

 

[MordySaint]

In comes a coach with enough gravitas that he doesn't have to try and be best mates with the players and shuts that loser s**t in a hot second.

I think the club encouraged this best mates with the coach mantra.

The video of the club presenting Ratten with a brand new cushy contract and getting all the players to shake his hand and do cheers for him really exposed this attitude.

Thankfully our clubs mantra has now changed, the coach is the boss... not your best friend.

 

[Dr Spaceman]

I’m not saying it’s 100% rubbish.

But I have never heard of the issue being players getting in the drink.

The issue especially in the last 2 years. Has been how poor of a high performance environment Moorabbin has been. Which has been evident in the lack of development and the change we are seeing so far.

So, by that - I am referring to how hard players train. I am referring to selection integrity. I am referring to clarity on role and instruction etc.

Suggests to me that Enright has played a huge role in suggesting/supporting the changes that have been made.

Hate the Cats as much as you like, you can’t deny their professionalism and continued presence at the right end of the ladder.

And of course he remains at Moorabbin and seems to have a very prominent role under RTB

 

[#gosaintas]

I’m not saying it’s 100% rubbish.

But I have never heard of the issue being players getting in the drink.

The issue especially in the last 2 years. Has been how poor of a high performance environment Moorabbin has been. Which has been evident in the lack of development and the change we are seeing so far.

So, by that - I am referring to how hard players train. I am referring to selection integrity. I am referring to clarity on role and instruction etc.

the difference in the professionalism at training is enormous. Last year was just Lade and ratts joking around and practising bombing the ball on King's head. This year is all system and structure. And that's evident in the games.

 

[FQFjt]

I had heard similar things to what Lloyd has said but also that there was another faction in the club (led by Wilkie and not sure who else) who were very against the culture and it was leading to splits in the playing group. Wouldn’t surprise me if this was a key finding of the review.

 

[Pakenhamsaint]

Lloyd on Footy Classified thinks we had a drinking culture where players were heckled for not getting involved that has ended since David Misson and RTB arrived.

How Ross Lyon's trust in players helped change St Kilda's “drinking culture”

“Ross has changed that aspect and it’s standing out now.”

www.sen.com.au

 

[stavro#4]

Suggests to me that Enright has played a huge role in suggesting/supporting the changes that have been made.

Hate the Cats as much as you like, you can’t deny their professionalism and continued presence at the right end of the ladder.

And of course he remains at Moorabbin and seems to have a very prominent role under RTB

Yeah apparently he was ruthless with his feedback.

No surprise he is the only one still around.