BBL 2023/24 BBL SuperCoach

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Lessons learnt from this year

  • Strike rates are important more so for batters. Perth Stadium, GABBA (early season), Adelaide Oval are roads
  • Sydney Showgrounds is a spinners and generally a bowlers paradise
  • SCG is about fair value for bowlers and/or batters. Its the most truest pitch in Australia
  • Timeanddate.com is the most reliable for weather. To be fair out of the 9 games that weather affected, I reckon there was 1 where it was off.
  • Players to start a XI next year based on gut feels for BBL14, for domestic players anyway: Matt Short (Captain), Glenn Maxwell, Chris Lynn, Aaron Hardie, Ben McDermott (wicket keeper), Jake Fraser-McGurk, Chaudary, Daniel Sams, Michael Neser, Tanveer Sangha, Nathan Ellis. Doubt one could squeeze that in an equivalent full salary cap next season, but probably the 2 names on face value that might not be worth it are: Ellis and Chaudhary.
  • Surprising imports this season: Jamie Overton, Dan Lawrence, Walter, Laurie Evans. All had their fair share of good games. I missed Dan Lawrence last game but if you had him in your last round , one sense you would have scored well.
  • @HoneyballBBL had that really handy timetable sheet and I could plan ahead.

Not many people will be buying Short and Maxwell or both at their prices.

Depends on Maxwell's form but he was in a rich vein of form these last two months. Will he replicate it? Not sure.

Short should be in 100% of teams but he will be in about 30
 
Not many people will be buying Short and Maxwell or both at their prices.

Depends on Maxwell's form but he was in a rich vein of form these last two months. Will he replicate it? Not sure.

Short should be in 100% of teams but he will be in about 30

I feel like Maxwell could produce even more than he has whereas Short is almost maxed out, other than maybe he starts taking wickets more regularly.

An early Adelaide DG next year will make things rather interesting regarding Short. Wouldn’t put it past him being in the Australian team by then anyway.
 

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Looking into next season the must haves. I know one that isn't. Not going to pick Jhye Richardson next season.

Had a shocker and got injured again. I think he is done.
If fit he's elite and a SC lock

Purely depends on his fitness levels
 
I imagine there's some poor bastard who had Josh Brown in their team for long periods this season and got * all from him. Then they see that he's smashed out 140 in the final, and they're thinking, "* you, campaigner."

That's how I would feel if it was Max Bryant after giving him 5 years of chances. I rate Brown that lowly that I don't think I've ever had him in my side.
 
Random bump but just wondering if you ended up getting anything for top 100?

Nah I haven't heard anything about prizes or recieved anything yet. The site says there is a prize for top 111 so I'd be a little flat if I didn't get something at some stage but no real rush for it.

You top 100 too?
 
Nah I haven't heard anything about prizes or recieved anything yet. The site says there is a prize for top 111 so I'd be a little flat if I didn't get something at some stage but no real rush for it.

You top 100 too?

Yeah just signed up for AFL supercoach and saw the BBL tab and it reminded me I was expecting free KFC

Haven't heard a thing either but I thought that could've been cos I didn't have all my details in
 
Nah I haven't heard anything about prizes or recieved anything yet. The site says there is a prize for top 111 so I'd be a little flat if I didn't get something at some stage but no real rush for it.

You top 100 too?
Yeah just signed up for AFL supercoach and saw the BBL tab and it reminded me I was expecting free KFC

Haven't heard a thing either but I thought that could've been cos I didn't have all my details in
Last time I got the email late Jan and the prize (KFC voucher) some time in March
 

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Plan for Round 1 looks to be to stack Renegades and Stars players?

Given the double round the question will users go for Sam Harper of the Stars or Tim Siefert of the Renegades? There is also a question mark on Glenn Maxwells fitness 3 weeks out. Im planning at the moment he isnt ready to go.


Still trying to get my head around 'The Flex' , from a couple of guys on Honeyball:

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Nathan from SuperCoach Guns @SuperCoachGuns

“The flex position I believe, will radically change how you pick a squad for multiple reasons. For starters, it spreads out how much cash you have to spend per spot, which will immediately have an impact on how strong your Round 1 team can be.

“Then you have the infinite VC loop opportunities that the position brings. Since your round is set up with your best 11 scoring players out of 12, this means you could potentially VC loop without having to cop one of your emergencies in the event they do poorly. A fantastic addition which has added a completely new strategy to initial team selection.”

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Brain, @InsightFSports podcaster, @SC_BRAIN

“My first reaction on the Flex position was that of skepticism. Purely because initially I felt like it levelled the playing field a little by giving everyone a plan B with your lowest score dropping out each round. But with a bit more thought, you can exploit the Flex to increase the level of upside in your squad and open up dual position flexibility with loops.

“Tactically, having a dual position player in your Flex seems like the best way forward. A BAT/BWL player preferable but I also don’t mind having a WKP/BAT (like a Josh Inglis) as we know the WKP position yields the most fielding points. Having Inglis in Round 1 at Optus Stadium and being able to then free up your BAT position for genuine all-rounders would be an advantage ahead of Perth’s Round 2 double.

“In addition to this, having a BAT/BWL player in your Flex could allow you to go with a high-upside batsman in your BAT like Josh Brown or Jake Fraser-McGurk, removing the risk of failure if they cop a good rock early.

“The only thing I certainly won’t be doing is playing a BAT or BWL only player in the Flex. Need to utilise it as a DPP to make the most of it.”"
 
If im reading correctly how the Flex works is with squads now 18 players all up, you have to select 12 players. The best XI will count, with the user allowed to exclude the lowest score or in case one player misses out. There tended to be a fair amount of late withdrawl of players on Game Day last season, so im assuming thats why the rule was implemented.



Anybody up to date on the availability of the international players from other countries?
Dont forget we have the ILT20 which overlaps on Jan 11 , 2025- Feb 19 , 2025.

Early names I can see: Colin Munro, Sherfane Rutherford, Tom Curran, Tye, Warner, Chris Lynn, Jamie Overton, James Vince, Akeal Hosein, Daniel Sams are the names that stand out that may potentially leave during the tournament. Although I think in Warners case, he will go to ILT20 when the Thunder season is officially over. It also looks like most of the Test players from January 8 to the Final will be available.
 
Price lists of 2024/25 SuperCoach BBL

Bowlers:

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Batters

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Wicket keepers:

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All-Rounders:

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Im going to look to avoid Matt Short in Round 1 just because its at Manuka Oval in Canberra and he didnt score well there last season (scored 40 points). Not sure what kind of wicket we get there, as scoring was tougher there last season. But with Adelaide having a double in round 2, then will be the time to bring him in, when I may be able to get a slightly reduced price.

Harper looks as cheap as chups compared to those other keepers. And he batted well in one of the games against WA in the One Dayers at the MCG recently. Im hoping the Stars promote him up the order and if they do, this could be a steal. At the moment no one really knows their order, with Tom Rogers I assume likely to open.

Stoinis was a failure in the BBL last season. But I cant resist his form and if ive heard things right he has put his hand for a leadership role in this Stars team. He also was smacking them for fun in the T10 league in Abu Dhabi on the weekend. At $84k or so, it feels like it has cash cow potential.

Jake Fraser-McGurk, almost a lock for a 160% strike rate every innings his plays. Given he went and was sold in the IPL last night for $1.64 AUD million, ill take him at the bargain price of $124k. With SOS and Finch now gone as openers, the role is his.

Ben Duckett is unlikely to play in the BBL in the early parts. Im not sure if he will play much this tournament- not sure if he will be home for Christmas. Englands white ball kicks off on January 23rd, 2025. I like Beau Webster in that case to bat at 3. Likely to get an over or 2 with his spinners.

Zampa at 80k or so I also see as abit of a cash cow and job security.

Renshaw- Job security as the 3 test players are on duty. Also may be given an odd over or two with the ball but unlikely with Brisbanes stacked bowling lineup.

Ellis at 110k- will likely get death overs .

My XI firming, thinking Big Show wont be available in 3 weeks time:

Playing XI (Likely 1st Round):

Jake Fraser-McGurk (Bat)
Sam Harper (wicket keeper)
Webster (Bat)
Aaron Hardie (Bat)
Stoinis (Bat)
Will Sutherland (Bat)
Tom Curran (Bowler)
Chris Green (Bowler)
Kane Richardson (Bowler)
Nathan Ellis (Bowler)
Zampa (Bowler)

Bench Players:

Abbott
Buckingham
Konstas
Jack Edwards
Siefert

Flex Player:
Hayden Kerr


Budget of the team: $1,922,200 of the allocated $2 mill.

VC and C options- Stoinis in his hometown of Perth first up, and Fraser McGurk.
 

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Harper looks as cheap as chups compared to those other keepers. And he batted well in one of the games against WA in the One Dayers at the MCG recently. Im hoping the Stars promote him up the order and if they do, this could be a steal. At the moment no one really knows their order, with Tom Rogers I assume likely to open.
Don't do it !!!!
 
Don't do it !!!!
Yep last year he was used down the order too much. Last game in the BBL he was batting at 8.


But its a keep your eyes out on Harper. He just batted really well in the One Day Cup. Duckett I reckon is unlikely to play give that his in Englands Test squad and probably will play white ball series in late January in India. Maybe the Stars may be tempted to bring Stoin back to his opener role. Either way its safe to say, I reckon 2 of the 3 will open: Sam Harper, Stoinis or Tom Rogers. Gut feeling is they may go Harper and T Rogers. Stoinis prides himself on his power hitting in the middle order or later in the order. Dan Lawrences departure will open a spot up for an opener.

Renegades opening could with Fraser McGurk and Tim Siefert. The guys from last year are all gone now (who had an attempt at opening): De Kock, Cox, Finch and SOS. Josh Brown was recruited this season so id imagine maybe Siefert comes in at 3 or 4. Dont know where Bethell bats in this lineup. Bethell like Duckett is also in the English test squad , so Im not really sure if its worth picking him, as he also will likely be in the white ball squad against India.Bethell played in the last T20I for England against West Indies, just not what his job security will be like.


Id imagine the guys on the English squad will want to be home for Christmas.
 
And I just did my first pre-season change, Kerr OUT, Philippe IN.

I have 3 keepers in my team, all 3 could possibly open......


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May have to think about Round 2, given its Adelaide and Perth having doubles, and I dont really have alot of players to cover.

Reasonably happy with that first XI, although having 8 Renegades and Stars in Round 1 double, does seem maybe a tad too many. If i were to bite the bullet probably Kane Richardson would go first.
 

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