Player Watch 2022 AFL National Draft Discussion - read the pinned post

[Strapping Young Lad]

National AFL draft Monday November 28(first round only).
All other selections to be held on Tuesday November 29.
The pre-season and rookie drafts will then take place at 3pm (AEST) on Wednesday November 30.

 

[chopflop]

Heraldsun has us strongly linked to humper.

 

[rei154]

D'aloia in the third round would be a get for us. He is a monster in the clearances.

This is why I'm so surprised he's slipped down draft boards tbh.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

SYL, if you don’t think that I’ve looked back on the time he was drafted and his career in partial with going back to enjoy old footy you’d be kidding yourself.

Burton was similar in a newer sense.

Is that a reason to s**t on someone nobody knows?

You’d be old enough to remember the “don’t say anything if you don’t have anything nice to say”.

Determining whether Phillipou is confident in his own abilities while still being grounded enough, or whether it’s plain cockiness is a hard thing to judge when you don’t know who that person is, the clubs would know enough aswell through their interviews, though they can make mistakes, people are only guessing here, you can say what you think without being disrespectful or rude about it.

Who’s being disrespectful or rude about it?

No one.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

and that arrogant prick lance franklin

Not only arrogant but a trouble maker too. Thank god we dodged that bullet.

I don’t remember Bud having any major red flags with ego prior to his drafting, but perhaps you guys remember differently?

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Heraldsun has us strongly linked to humper.

 

[Dewyyyyy]

Who’s being disrespectful or rude about it?

No one.

I’ve read it as such, guess it depends where your boundaries are in terms of being harsh and being rude, similar to his with confidence and cockiness.

 

[marhalls hawks]

I don’t remember Bud having any major red flags with ego prior to his drafting, but perhaps you guys remember differently?

I remember going to a family day at Glenferrie and all the players giving my children autographs and being nice except Lance Franklin who was standoffish and didn’t even want to look at us that was my personal experience with him and after that I wasn’t too sorry to see him leave

 

[Judd2Sewell]

I don’t remember Bud having any major red flags with ego prior to his drafting, but perhaps you guys remember differently?

He was very sure of himself and was known to be a trouble maker. Meant nothing in the end though.

 

[chopflop]

From unknown to 'bona fide gun': The Fyfe-esque draft bolter's meteoric rise - https://www.afl.com.au/news/864921

Ginbey article. Looks a good pick for gcs who can take a risk on his upside because they always have a million picks

 

[RIOLINWITPUNCHS]

This guy looks like he will be a bargain.

Anyone got any more info on him?

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[Alsmypal]

I remember going to a family day at Glenferrie and all the players giving my children autographs and being nice except Lance Franklin who was standoffish and didn’t even want to look at us that was my personal experience with him and after that I wasn’t too sorry to see him leave

Every single time I’ve seen Lance in his personal time he has stopped to take a picture and sign an autograph for my son.
He is fantastic with kids and everyone is allowed to have some off days.
I was spewing when he left. Absolutely brilliant footballer.

 

[marhalls hawks]

Every single time I’ve seen Lance in his personal time he has stopped to take a picture and sign an autograph for my son.
He is fantastic with kids and everyone is allowed to have some off days.
I was spewing when he left. Absolutely brilliant footballer.

Everyone has different experiences with different people to me and my family he was rude and arrogant I’m glad he was good to you and yours I’m just saying my experience with the man was not good. But at the time he was young and and the fame of being one of the best of all time had gone to his head in my opinion. I’m glad he left it didn’t hurt the team 1 bit

 

[Brishawk]

He was very sure of himself and was known to be a trouble maker. Meant nothing in the end though.

My memory of him was that he was quite shy and avoided speaking to the media for years. No doubt sure of himself on the field but seemed far less so off it.

 

[bradburygold]

He was very sure of himself and was known to be a trouble maker. Meant nothing in the end though.

He was quote as saying at the draft camp, to the question If you could change anything about yourself what would it be?

“Nothing.”

 

[TylerDurden]

 

[marhalls hawks]

If only we got a few more games into Ben

 

[Mojo]

Everyone has different experiences with different people to me and my family he was rude and arrogant I’m glad he was good to you and yours I’m just saying my experience with the man was not good. But at the time he was young and and the fame of being one of the best of all time had gone to his head in my opinion. I’m glad he left it didn’t hurt the team 1 bit

I think it's safe to say we became a better side after he left; winning another two premierships and all.

 

[hawkinoz]

If only we got a few more games into Ben

if we did, very likely we don't hold pick 24 or even 41, 48.

if we rate him that good, we can pick him at 24

 

[Rocket72]

He was quote as saying at the draft camp, to the question If you could change anything about yourself what would it be?

“Nothing.”

If he meant, literally, ‘himself’, that’s a great response. If he meant as a footballer, yeah that seems arrogant for a young player.

 

[RIOLINWITPUNCHS]

if we did, very likely we don't hold pick 24 or even 41, 48.

if we rate him that good, we can pick him at 24

I would be staggered if he was still available at #24.

 

[Rocket72]

I remember going to a family day at Glenferrie and all the players giving my children autographs and being nice except Lance Franklin who was standoffish and didn’t even want to look at us that was my personal experience with him and after that I wasn’t too sorry to see him leave

Lance is introverted and is never going to be a natural in big groups. Sorry you had a bad experience especially with your kids. I met him randomly at a friends wedding, he was absolutely lovely. Celebrity is hard on most people and we don’t know what people are going through or who they really are.

Personally, at Hawthorn I think we could be a bit more open to players being themselves rather than squeezing them into a fairly unrealistic model of humble, extroverted, diplomatic and always doing what everyone expects, all of the time. I’m as hopeful as ever if this under Sam.

 

[Billyc]

Lance is introverted and is never going to be a natural in big groups. Sorry you had a bad experience especially with your kids. I met him randomly at a friends wedding, he was absolutely lovely. Celebrity is hard on most people and we don’t know what people are going through or who they really are.

Personally, at Hawthorn I think we could be a bit more open to players being themselves rather than squeezing them into a fairly unrealistic model of humble, extroverted, diplomatic and always doing what everyone expects, all of the time. I’m as hopeful as ever if this under Sam.

Also worth remembering that Buddy wasn't just any old player. He was the biggest name in the game and was hounded everywhere he went in Melbourne.

 

[Ned Ryerson]

I don’t remember Bud having any major red flags with ego prior to his drafting, but perhaps you guys remember differently?

Definitely came across as over-confident and apparently that's why Richmond was off him. Full story is here - but Bucky definitely mentions him being over-confident but us having no issue with it:

He was about to completely 'destroy' them: When Bucky met Buddy

Former Hawthorn recruiter Gary Buckenara chats to Riley Beveridge about the 2004 draft and the first time he laid eyes on Lance

www.afl.com.au

 

[Blackhawk42]

‘Started squealing’: How ‘surreal’ video game moment left AFL draft wildcard speechless

‘Started squealing’: How ‘surreal’ video game moment left AFL draft wildcard speechless

www.foxsports.com.au

 

[Ned Ryerson]

‘Started squealing’: How ‘surreal’ video game moment left AFL draft wildcard speechless

‘Started squealing’: How ‘surreal’ video game moment left AFL draft wildcard speechless

www.foxsports.com.au

Modern sport is littered with people widely admired for being supremely confident in their abilities. Jordan, Bird, Warne, Waugh etc. Not sure why when you are an 18 year old kid it is seen as some horrible thing. This answer he gives in the interview might sound cocky but he's absolutely right - if you want to make it you have to back yourself in and have full confidence in your abilities:

Asked which player he’d take if he had Pick 1, he said: “I think I‘d have to say myself, just because I think if you’re not going to back yourself, you probably don’t have the confidence required to play in the league.”

If he is on the board at our pick I hope we don't get scared off just because he rates himself a bit. Considering the youth of our team next year it wouldn't hurt to have a kid who already thinks he belongs in the side.