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He, like anyone else will go where the money is. If he turns out to be a star, we'll be paying overs to keep him, either in dollars or contract length. It's the status quo.And he's an SA kid!!!!!
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He, like anyone else will go where the money is. If he turns out to be a star, we'll be paying overs to keep him, either in dollars or contract length. It's the status quo.And he's an SA kid!!!!!
No go home factor
I didn't see the trial game but interested in your Worrell comment. Was he injured last year?... because I thought it would have been a perfect opportunity for him to get a game. From the little I've seen of him I've got high expectations.Pedlar looks very nice.
worrell must play AFL.
ned surprised in the second half.
milera was awesome.
newchurch has a lot to work with but is a way off yet.
we need to just stick with Berg. He is the best out of the tall forwards around the ground.
He mentioned in a presser the other day that Nicks is on to him about his kicking and wants him to slow down for a second to balance himself.It's always looked to be the weakness in Hately's all round game, his kicking can be iffy and more generally lacks penetration, hopefully we're putting in a fair bit of time in on it with him.
His disposal is ok for an inside midfielder. Not the best, not the worst.Should also have said, Hately was sh*t. Dog poo on a stick sh*t
some of his kicks still haven’t come down. Reckon 1 or 2 might end up in a permanent orbit around the moon
no room in the 22 for him on that performance
Worrell just looks composed. Got plenty of the ball. Just never seemed rushed. One of those players that looks like he has time to make decisionsI didn't see the trial game but interested in your Worrell comment. Was he injured last year?... because I thought it would have been a perfect opportunity for him to get a game. From the little I've seen of him I've got high expectations.
I don't think you can really carry over his GWS output as a predictive tool on how he's going to play his footy as a midfielder. I read that he literally attended zero center bounces last year. Played almost exclusively on the flanks.His disposal is ok for an inside midfielder. Not the best, not the worst.
The problem is that he gets most of his possession uncontested. That’s how he went at GWS, and if you noticed in the internal trial it was Pedlar and Berry winning contests and feeding out to Hately.
If you want to get 15 uncontested possessions per game, you better have above average skills, otherwise you are hurting your team every time you get the ball.
So he’s outside the 22 for me also.
I said very early in the piece that his style seriously reminded me of Bulldogs Bontempelli. What you've just described is the best part of the Bont's game. I'll be happy if Worrell turns out to be half as good as that.Worrell just looks composed. Got plenty of the ball. Just never seemed rushed. One of those players that looks like he has time to make decisions
(noting it wasn’t a proper game).
Wow. We agree on something. There is hope for us yet, ol’ Sanders.Should also have said, Hately was sh*t. Dog poo on a stick sh*t
some of his kicks still haven’t come down. Reckon 1 or 2 might end up in a permanent orbit around the moon
no room in the 22 for him on that performance
One internal trial game in, and looks to me Pedlar and Berry are both already well ahead of Hately for ball-winning despite being 2 years junior, 10 cm shorter, and 10 kg lighter.I don't think you can really carry over his GWS output as a predictive tool on how he's going to play his footy as a midfielder. I read that he literally attended zero center bounces last year. Played almost exclusively on the flanks.
Not many players racking up high contested ball numbers around the AFL playing 100% HFF.
I think he ends up pretty balanced mid when stats actually start getting taken. But would also very much like to see him clean up that disposal!
I was going to say this but feared people yelling at me that intra-club form doesn't mean diddly squat. Id be very surprised though if Pedlar and Berry dont overtake him in the pecking order.It looked to me Pedlar and Berry are both already well ahead of Hately for ball-winning despite being 2 years junior, 10 cm shorter, and 10 kg lighter.
I'd be very happy if they did, because Hately is a very good young prospect.I was going to say this but feared people yelling at me that intra-club form doesn't mean diddly squat. Id be very surprised though if Pedlar and Berry dont overtake him in the pecking order.
Hately is a lockOne internal trial game in, and looks to me Pedlar and Berry are both already well ahead of Hately for ball-winning despite being 2 years junior, 10 cm shorter, and 10 kg lighter.
Hope to see Hately try to take charge in the next trial to show he deserves a chance in R1.
he looks like him now!
the younger Daniel rich had much shorter hair![]()
Few of his early kicks were real wobblers. Type of shit I kick when I go to the park to kick the ball with my nephew. That kind of thing needs to get better.Should also have said, Hately was sh*t. Dog poo on a stick sh*t
some of his kicks still haven’t come down. Reckon 1 or 2 might end up in a permanent orbit around the moon
no room in the 22 for him on that performance
His disposal is ok for an inside midfielder. Not the best, not the worst.
The problem is that he gets most of his possession uncontested. That’s how he went at GWS, and if you noticed in the internal trial it was Pedlar and Berry winning contests and feeding out to Hately.
If you want to get 15 uncontested possessions per game, you better have above average skills, otherwise you are hurting your team every time you get the ball.
So he’s outside the 22 for me also.
I was going to say this but feared people yelling at me that intra-club form doesn't mean diddly squat. Id be very surprised though if Pedlar and Berry dont overtake him in the pecking order.
You put way, way too much loading on height in a midfielder, 190cm midfielders are still the exception not the rule.Be very wary of this complaint, whilst doable (and there are examples in 2020, i.e Oliver, Cripps, Yeo), it's not that common for a player to be operating at >50% contested ball, even if you are playing on the inside, once you are at a high level of accumulation. I also don't think I'd particularly trust a midfield system that allowed a player to get that skewed on inside ball.
Considering the coaches came out being happy about Hatelys contested game (from his presser), the assumption has to be in whatever stats they've kept, Hately won a lot of contested ball and won a good number of clearances (noting he'd is expected to be an inside midfielder).
You put way, way too much loading on height in a midfielder, 190cm midfielders are still the exception not the rule.
Hately has done 3 AFL pre-seasons and unless the published weights are still not updated he's only 3kg heavier than Pedlar and 2kg heavier than Sam Berry.
Last year's Brownlow medalist is 12cm shorter than Hately and a kilo heavier.
You put way, way too much loading on height in a midfielder, 190cm midfielders are still the exception not the rule.
Hately has done 3 AFL pre-seasons and unless the published weights are still not updated he's only 3kg heavier than Pedlar and 2kg heavier than Sam Berry.
Last year's Brownlow medalist is 12cm shorter than Hately and a kilo heavier.
He did struggled getting the ball to spin backwards.Should also have said, Hately was sh*t. Dog poo on a stick sh*t
some of his kicks still haven’t come down. Reckon 1 or 2 might end up in a permanent orbit around the moon
no room in the 22 for him on that performance
Makes logical sense. I expect the club is thinking the same way. I recall Hamish saying something along these lines after drafting O’Connor.And you've hit the nail on the head why I am putting so much emphasis on height. They are the exception, and positive exceptions which this is, as AFL does have a small bias towards being taller and heavier in terms of player sizes (noting how exceptional, or specialised you need to be to get onto a list at <175 cms) should always be prioritised. After all, being bigger and taller then your opponent opens the game up for you. It's easier to be a marking/intercept threat around the ground, as well as giving more room for error to prevent (and create) turnovers in handball passages. It makes it easier to win a hardball when you are cracking in because you have a longer reach as well as the extra weight, as well as to either lay a tackle or at least make some attempt to slow down an opposition player. It opens up flexibility forward and back as you could feasibly rest as another tall, in which there is less competition for in a best 22 (and you could potentially ditch carrying a tall on the bench, meaning more midfielders/runners). The good thing about all sports is these things can be overcome if you're good enough (hence why it's never properly homogenised), however every investment into someone who offers these kinds of points of difference is effectively an investment into how versatile, and resilient your side is as a whole.
Height/weights haven't been updated as Gollant is still at 72 kg, despite that puff piece where he gained 13 kg. Torpedro posted an updated amount which had Hately at 91 kg this offseason. Considering some other numbers checked out (namely Gollant), I'm inclined to trust it until proven otherwise.
I don't think you can really carry over his GWS output as a predictive tool on how he's going to play his footy as a midfielder. I read that he literally attended zero center bounces last year. Played almost exclusively on the flanks.
Not many players racking up high contested ball numbers around the AFL playing 100% HFF.
I think he ends up pretty balanced mid when stats actually start getting taken. But would also very much like to see him clean up that disposal!
Wow. We agree on something. There is hope for us yet, ol’ Sanders.
Few of his early kicks were real wobblers. Type of sh*t I kick when I go to the park to kick the ball with my nephew. That kind of thing needs to get better.
He has obvious skills, but not 100% convinced he'll be a superstar. Given we didn't give anything to get him that's not a total issue and every team needs guys like Richard Douglas in the side.
As a HFF or midfielder? Cause the only time he would have played proper midfield for comparison sake since being in The AFL would be in the NEAFL, where according to what I’ve read he was one of the most dominant players in that league (not saying it’s a particularly good league, just that he dominated it as a mid).Is he racking up high contested stats?