Resource 2020 Draft Watch (picks 1, 9, 20, 30, 45, 50, 60, 74) - updated R17 15/9/20

[Deaneus!]

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[ams4crows]

If we were looking to trade pick 7 for Player we would be looking at a well established mid from another club not someone barely breaking into the 22

For what it's worth I don't think we would trade it.

 

[Mego Red]

And Ronin O'Connor has Hately covered for height anyway.

You want a tall mid prospect that can find the pill in bunches rookie overager Darcy Chirgwin who missed most of last year.

I think the question will be "does he have him covered for talent"?

 

[Mego Red]

Let me put this scenario to you.

The virus in Victoria means we don't get a full season of AFL. There is an even more condensed version and a shortened finals.

The AFL then turn their attention to the draft. Clubs start pushing for a lottery style draft as the competition was too compromised to rely on ladder positions. The AFL look at the Crows, who would have pick 1, but are not happy.

So, the AFL come to the Crows. They lay down the long list of poor errors, including the Camp and the Barossa. They tell the club that if they are to get pick 1, they need to get their act together.

So in return for keeping pick 1, they demand the following;

• Crows must turn over the board.
• Chapman and Roo must leave.
• A new Chairperson, from outside the current board, must be appointed.
• They must also appoint an external group to review the off field structure of the Crows, with an agreement that they will implement recommendations.

What does Chapman do? Would he step aside and take Roo with him, to ensure the Crows keep pick 1 (and a bonus of generous judgement of B Crouch's Free Agent compensation)?

On one hand I'd be pissed that the AFL want to influence how the club is run. On the other hand, change must happen and if this is the way to get them out, then so be it.

Regardless, I think Chapman would suggest we take pick 10 instead, just so he can stay on as his input is very vital to the clubs future.

Thoughts?

That is one of the most sensationally unlikely scenarios I've ever read.

The AFL isn't the media. We know they don't think anything wrong happened in the Barossa, and they investigated the camp years ago.

Chapman has been excellent as far as they're concerned - we're a financially strong and sutainable club that doesn't ask for much from them. That we're shit isn't a massive deal, as most of the major clubs have been in recent memory (Collingwood, Melbourne,. Richmond, Carlton, WCE).

They'll be glad we're getting the early picks in a year where most clubs don't want them.

 

[1990crow]

Pick 7 for Rankine would be ideal.

 

[SuperBashBros]

Id use Pick 7 on Caldwell. He looks over his injury issues.

Definitely not on Hately. Dont forget GWS let go of their fringe players for unders. They have a certain player called Jeremy Cameron they have to keep. Cameron is already on a million a year according to a report out last year in the million dollar contracts.

 

[Betts are off]

No it's not.

GWS have consistently traded out young players for less than they spent on them in the draft.

Adams, Treloar, Shiel and Smith were good deals. Marchbank, Setterfield, Steele, McCarthy, O'Rourke, Jaksch, Pickett, Ahern, Plowman, Bruce, Tyson and others were all traded for pennies in the dollar (which, for some of these high picks, was still more than they were worth).

That GWS used an early pick on a player whom they don't play doesn't mean they'll necessarily get one in return.

Ok fair call, a Kings ransom might not always be the case (although 4 kings ransoms is about 3 more kings ransoms then averaged by most other clubs over the period of time), but the point is they have shown no hesitation in moving on from young highly drafted players and bringing picks in.

A strategy that is proven to be very successful for them.

 

[Freshj]

Id use Pick 7 on Caldwell. He looks over his injury issues.

Definitely not on Hately. Dont forget GWS let go of their fringe players for unders. They have a certain player called Jeremy Cameron they have to keep. Cameron is already on a million a year according to a report out last year in the million dollar contracts.

How dare you report player wages in the public forum. You should resign immediately.

 

[Golumless]

I think the question will be "does he have him covered for talent"?

I can easily picture a scenario where both are best 22. Go for 2 190 cm+ inside midfielders and surround them with a good mixture of pace and skill.

 

[1970crow]

I do too, but if they keep losing players, and playing Sauce in the ruck....... It's entirely possible.

Sauce thrives on continuity AND huge workload. Can't do much about continuity, but maybe they could give him more to do.

 

[1970crow]

I don't think you guys will be bidding on Ugle-Hagan at pick #1

The #1 pick is associated with hope and can be marketed. If you bid on Ugle-Hagan at 1 and the Doggies match, then the Doggies get the #1 pick of the draft, and Adelaide will have the #2 pick.

I know it might sound like that doesn't make sense, but if your club wins the spoon, I suspect they'll want to claim they have the #1 pick of this year's draft.

That's stupidity. It gives them an extra pick in the top 3 pushing our other first and early seconds back.

 

[radiojake]

yeah not bidding on Ugle-Hagan (assuming Bulldogs finish 16th/17th) effectively gives Bulldogs a free top draft pick

 

[briztoon]

That's stupidity. It gives them an extra pick in the top 3 pushing our other first and early seconds back.

Are you expecting the Dogs to finish 17th?

 

[Crow till I die]

That's stupidity. It gives them an extra pick in the top 3 pushing our other first and early seconds back.

IF it looks like the dogs are going to finish outside the 8 and maybe lower (I don't think that is going to happen - I think they will play finals this year), then maybe we can make a deal with them to not bid on JUH and we could do a pick swap with them for our 2 x 2nd rounders for their 1st (maybe we turf in a later pick so they have the points to match a bid from pick 2 down (assuming a pick 1 bid might knock them right our of this draft and hurt them next year points wise)..not sure how the points play out in terms of them being able to match a pick 1 bid

 

[johnnypanther]

Let me put this scenario to you.

The virus in Victoria means we don't get a full season of AFL. There is an even more condensed version and a shortened finals.

The AFL then turn their attention to the draft. Clubs start pushing for a lottery style draft as the competition was too compromised to rely on ladder positions. The AFL look at the Crows, who would have pick 1, but are not happy.

So, the AFL come to the Crows. They lay down the long list of poor errors, including the Camp and the Barossa. They tell the club that if they are to get pick 1, they need to get their act together.

So in return for keeping pick 1, they demand the following;

• Crows must turn over the board.
• Chapman and Roo must leave.
• A new Chairperson, from outside the current board, must be appointed.
• They must also appoint an external group to review the off field structure of the Crows, with an agreement that they will implement recommendations.

What does Chapman do? Would he step aside and take Roo with him, to ensure the Crows keep pick 1 (and a bonus of generous judgement of B Crouch's Free Agent compensation)?

On one hand I'd be pissed that the AFL want to influence how the club is run. On the other hand, change must happen and if this is the way to get them out, then so be it.

Regardless, I think Chapman would suggest we take pick 10 instead, just so he can stay on as his input is very vital to the clubs future.

Thoughts?

I'ld suggest the more likely result if your scenario occurred would be:
"The virus in Victoria means we don't get a full season of AFL. There is an even more condensed version and a shortened finals.
The AFL then turn their attention to the draft. Clubs start pushing for a lottery style draft as the competition was too compromised to rely on ladder positions. The AFL look at the Crows, who would have pick 1"
and they say beaudy f*** the Crows, lottery style draft it is .... much fairer for the Vic Clubs

 

[briztoon]

IF it looks like the dogs are going to finish outside the 8 and maybe lower (I don't think that is going to happen - I think they will play finals this year), then maybe we can make a deal with them to not bid on JUH and we could do a pick swap with them for our 2 x 2nd rounders for their 1st (maybe we turf in a later pick so they have the points to match a bid from pick 2 down (assuming a pick 1 bid might knock them right our of this draft and hurt them next year points wise)..not sure how the points play out in terms of them being able to match a pick 1 bid

Going from memory, but it would take picks 19 and 20 or 20 and 21, can’t remember which, to match a bid at pick 2.

Then you have to factor in available list spots so that Dogs have enough available spots to take more than two picks to the draft.

 

[briztoon]

Just checked, 17 and 18 almost completely matches a bid at 2.

20 and 21 matches a bid at pick 3.

 

[GrommoT]

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They'll be glad we're getting the early picks in a year where most clubs don't want them.

I wouldn't so sure of this - if it wasn't for covid robbing the draft candidates games to show form, I could imagine this highly compromised draft making early picks a whole heap more valuable to be able to draft the best of the non-NGA/FS candidates.

 

[Mutineer]

Corey Durdin named on the HFF for Centrals
Riley Thilthorpe named at Full Forward for West Adelaide
Zac Dumensy named on the wing for South Adelaide
James Borlase named at Full back for Sturt Reserves
Luke Edwards named in U18's for Glenelg
Jamison Murphy named in the centre for North Adelaide U18's
Bailey Chamberlain named in the U18's for West Adelaide
Jye Sinderberry named in the U18's for West Adelaide.

 

[1990crow]

Corey Durdin named on the HFF for Centrals
Riley Thilthorpe named at Full Forward for West Adelaide
Zac Dumensy named on the wing for South Adelaide
James Borlase named at Full back for Sturt Reserves
Luke Edwards named in U18's for Glenelg
Jamison Murphy named in the centre for North Adelaide U18's
Bailey Chamberlain named in the U18's for West Adelaide
Jye Sinderberry named in the U18's for West Adelaide.

Luke Edwards should be seniors?

 

[eDPS]

Luke Edwards should be seniors?

Nah playing 18s and glad he is for viewing multiple players haha

Newchurch also listed in a FP for North Adelaide In the 18s

 

[1990crow]

Nah playing 18s and glad he is for viewing multiple players haha

Newchurch also listed in a FP for North Adelaide In the 18s

Nah I mean shocked he isn't seniors

 

[eDPS]

Nah I mean shocked he isn't seniors

I’d say the decision was recruiter driven, they want to see him play midfield or something along those lines.

 

[1990crow]

I’d say the decision was recruiter driven, they want to see him play midfield or something along those lines.

Fair enough. Kind of conflicts with the integrity of the competition though. Glenelg should be picking their best possible side to win.

 

[eDPS]

Fair enough. Kind of conflicts with the integrity of the competition though. Glenelg should be picking their best possible side to win.

Glenelg might have a strong side in aswell, might not be best 22 for them right now

 

[Oakleigh Roo]

Fair enough. Kind of conflicts with the integrity of the competition though. Glenelg should be picking their best possible side to win.

I don’t think he’s as good as you guys are hoping he is.