2019 ALL AUSTRALIAN TEAM

[Back One Out]

What about free kicks? Brown had 44 free kicks this year. It would be interesting to see how many resulted in goals. Hawkins received 13 free kicks this year.

That's a plus for Brown and a minus for Hawkins
Ben Brown draws a heap of free kicks in front of goal from panicking defenders who know he's got them beat.
That's as good as a contested mark. Only on pLaNet bIG fOoTy is that a negative.

Brown 44 frees + 35 contested marks = 79
Hawkins 13 frees + 32 contested marks = 45


What about the supply from their respective midfields?

Hawkins has Dangerfield, Kelly, Duncan, Selwood and Ablett
Brown has Cunnington, Higgins, Ziebell, Dumont and Polec

That's four All Australians versus one

 

[My Cotchin Rules]

It's nice that even Richmond supporters can recognise that Houli was lucky to make the final team. It isn't just bitter Essendon supporters questioning his inclusion as others have suggested.

Team isn't bad. Hurn's 2nd half of the year was pretty bog average... I might have had Sheppard in there instead of him. People complaining about Gawn's inclusion are idiots. Gawn and Grundy were arguably the best 2 players in the AFL this year - they both just HAD to make the team.

Yeah agree Sheppard for Hurn.
Bradley Hill also unlucky to pluck a wing spot when Kelly and Bont aren't genuine wingman however hard to take them out of the side lol!

 

[jc12]

Why are people surprised that Martin missed out? He started the year poorly where his leadership was questioned everywhere when it was needed most with the absence of Cotchin, Rance and Reiwoldt and he was out of form and seemed disinterested.
He didn't really get going until about 1/3 into the season and has only really hit really, really good form in the last 4-5 weeks?

I think it's a case of recent form being fresh in a lot of peoples memory.

dusty was good in the first game of the year ppl missed out on that, had two stinkers after that, which made people think he had a poor "1st half" of the year. as he got suspended. but when he came back round 5 vs swans he was BOG. and from there was dominant the whole year which included 7 BOG performances. and other great performances. easily a bog year and much more deserved over yeo and pendles

 

[South of the Yarra]

Dusty’s ceiling is higher than any of the aforementioned players. No contest.

Dustin Martin should not be mentioned in the same breath as Gary Ablett Jnr.

 

[The Filth]

..... an alien spaceship has arrived and they have challenged us to a game of AFL. If we lose, theyll steal our women and children and destroy our breweries.
Do you pick Dusty in our team?

Whilst I am a Dusty supporter for AA honours this is a ridiculous premise...
Even aliens wouldn’t steal the women and children of Richmond supporters...

 

[Righteo]

Would think the best captain doesn’t see his coach get sacked and multiple players request trades away from the team...

Not to mention the number one trade target refuse to come to the club.

Imagine being upset over something like this. wow.

 

[blaisee]

Dustin Martin should not be mentioned in the same breath as Gary Ablett Jnr.

completely agree

GAJ is just a stat pig, has very little impact on the results of games.

Dusty is a completely unselfish superstar that doesn't care about stats, just winning every contest he is in, and creating goals for his teammates

 

[Boxhead_31]

Tom Lynch: 22 games, 54 goals = 497 points total, 22.59 points per game, 9.203 points per goal.


Kicked his goals on better opposition on average than all of Cameron, Darling and Hawkins.

Bit hard for Hawkins to get points playing in the top side isn't it?

 

[Royce Hafey]

wow you came up with numbers that represent sfa, good for you.

Hers one for you:

Cameron - 1
Hawkins - 1
Darling - 1
Brown - 0

ill let you work out how I came up with those stats.

Sensible haircuts?

 

[The 747]

Obvs Geelong did well but it is garbage that Dangerfield got named on a HFF where he doesn't play instead of Ablett who actually played HFF all year and provided a lesson on what a HFF should do. Smacks of selectors being afraid to leave out Dangerfield.

 

[Boxhead_31]

And because Hawkins, Darling and Cameron are all in top 6 sides, their opportunity to score goals are higher than Brown also.

Goals kicked obviously has a direct correlation with the strength of the side.

How is this confusing to you?

Should you not weight the scoring against sides not by ladder position rather than the sides defensive rank?
That would give you a truer weighting factor than ladder position as to how hard a side is to score against and if kicking goals against them means more would it not?

 

[samFFC]

Given Hurn was borderline to even be picked, why is there so much outrage about him being VC and not C?

Is it just because King and co are flogs? Or am I missing something?

 

[samFFC]

Surely the AA captain should be from a team that at least made the finals, Fyfe's team finished 13th and the coach was sacked, what a great leader.

Why? Is Cripps a bad captain?

 

[Achin joints]

'family reasons' like Lachie hey

You obviously didnt hear Neal refer to Fyfe as a mate eh? Get your facts straight

 

[Royce Hafey]

Not that supercoach/champion data is the be all and end all but I think it says something that Dustin Martin barely scraped an 100 average this season.

I don't think it's fair to rely on Supercoach scores to judge Richmond players because our game style involves a fairly small amount of possessions compared to other teams. The case in point was only just last week where Dusty only had 21 possessions compared to Neale's 52. By the logic of a lot of posters in this thread that would make Neale's game twice as good as Dusty's.

I'm not, btw, making an argument for his inclusion in the AA team as I can see the logic both ways. He did have a quiet beginning to the year, though not as quiet as some here have made out, but then again in the last ten weeks his form has been as good as 2017. I'm just glad that he's coming good this time of the year and will take that over a fast start then tailing off, a la Kelly. If Dusty dominates the finals series and we win another flag, then I wouldn't give a flying f#$k whether he got AA. Nor I suspect would Dusty.

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

Given Hurn was borderline to even be picked, why is there so much outrage about him being VC and not C?

Is it just because King and co are flogs? Or am I missing something?

McGovern was one who made the team based on reputation. Hurn had a good start to the year but tapered off towards the latter third of the year imo. I wouldn't have picked him either.

Hawkins shouldn't have made the team.

Ablett was unlucky Walters had a better year and they were vying for the one spot.

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

Obvs Geelong did well but it is garbage that Dangerfield got named on a HFF where he doesn't play instead of Ablett who actually played HFF all year and provided a lesson on what a HFF should do. Smacks of selectors being afraid to leave out Dangerfield.

Dangerfield played large chunks of the year up forward.

 

[South of the Yarra]

completely agree

GAJ is just a stat pig, has very little impact on the results of games.

Dusty is a completely unselfish superstar that doesn't care about stats, just winning every contest he is in, and creating goals for his teammates

The Richmond hype of Dustin is bordering on ridiculous. He would not rate in the 50 best midfielders I have seen. I have seen some Richmond players who are absolute superstars and greats of the game, Martin is not one of them.

 

[good4footy]

The Richmond hype of Dustin is bordering on ridiculous. He would not rate in the 50 best midfielders I have seen. I have seen some Richmond players who are absolute superstars and greats of the game, Martin is not one of them.

Exactly. Ablett Jnr is in the conversation for best player of all time. Martin needs another 2-3 years of his best to even be discussed as one of the best of his generation.

 

[gutsroy]

It's all subjective, for what it's worth:

Hawkins replaced by Ben Brown
Grimes replaced by Tarrant (farce he didn't make the 40 imo)
Pendlebury replaced by Treloar / Zorko
Swap Grundy and Gawn on- vs off-field
Hurn captain, Fyfe vice captain
Martin, Ablett omissions no issue for mine.
(Crozier had a great year, didn't cop much press, wouldn't have had a problem with him in the 40.)

The blazers seem to be incredibly popular, so am out of step here, but I think they're cringe worthy faux cricket / private school crap. Bloody awful.

 

[PhatBoy]

completely agree

GAJ is just a stat pig, has very little impact on the results of games.

Dusty is a completely unselfish superstar that doesn't care about stats, just winning every contest he is in, and creating goals for his teammates

Bahahahahaha Hahahahahahahaha

 

[TimmeT]

Cannot believe tommapork got picked ahead of sideshow bob.

 

[TimmeT]

completely agree

GAJ is just a stat pig, has very little impact on the results of games.

Dusty is a completely unselfish superstar that doesn't care about stats, just winning every contest he is in, and creating goals for his teammates

Can I have what ypou're inhaling or drinking?

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

The Hawkins inclusion makes up for the rort last year of having Gunston in his place.

 

[Thedeftouch]

I think this team would matchup well against the AA team if they had to play against each other right now... More balanced

FB: Nick Haynes, Robbie Tarrant, James Sicily
HB: Lachie Whitfield, Aliir Aliir, Daniel Rich
C: Hugh McCluggage, Adam Treloar, Bradley Hill
R: Ben McEvoy, Dustin Martin, Clayton Oliver
HF: Shane Edwards, Gary Ablett, Dayne Zorko
F: Ben Brown, Lance Franklin, Tom Lynch
Int: Mark Blicavs, Brad Sheppard, Ben Cunnington, Travis Boak