Mega Thread 2018 List Management, Free Agency & Trade thread

[TheMcManusNose]

It's a hard ball winner two way runner, yes from me

He is just so nothing though. Deadset Mark Hutchings is a better midfielder.

Not so good inside or at a clearance that you can be like yeah ok maybe he could be a poor man's Neale for a season or two if we lose Lachie

His kicking is ok but nothing to write home about

He runs all day yeah for sure but so did DeBoer/Barlow/Danyle and he's not fast, he just runs

Spent the preceding 3 seasons perpetually injured

Is a deadset thug:


Great, we've recruited a list clogger.

 

[tonygeeks]

Rosich wouldn't tell Young anything.
He knows exactly what makes Young's boat float.
Rosich will be working hard, he knows that this trade period is as important as we've had, and he knows that if ross is in trouble next year, so will Rosich be in trouble.
He's definitely not stupid!

What a fantastic mindset to take into trade week


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[mike91]

One of my work mates is a passionate Richmond fan. He couldn't care less that he could be leaving, was surprised we're even chasing him.

 

[tonygeeks]

Might be my optimism but i read the reports differently to you.

Completely disagree. Get elite players, maybe downgrade one of them with the Adelaide clubs for an extra pick in the teens. High picks are for elite talent, at least with the McCarthy trade we stayed in the top 7


Don't know about that , draft analytics in other sports and it would probably be the same here if someone did some studies say that the best drafting strategy to find elite players is to have lots of lower picks not the early ones but you are also more likely to end up with nothing good with the multiple later pick method than with the early picks you are less likely to get an elite player but more likely to get an average to above average player
Think it was a university study on 50 years of NFL drafting I read last year , it was an interesting read I'll see if I can find it again


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[yyou]

There is no difference between #5 and #6 if we indicate that we don't want Rankine with a wink and a nudge

I want Rankine

I’m on the Lynch train for what it’s worth, enjoy the ride!

quentin making a comeback?
I'll (rightly) be lynched for that poor attempt at a joke

 

[Tbonefreo]

Kade kolodjasnij (spelling???) On the market as well. Could provide outside run. I wonder what his worth is. I watched a few games where he was very impressive.

 

[eastfreo75]

Kade kolodjasnij (spelling???) On the market as well. Could provide outside run. I wonder what his worth is. I watched a few games where he was very impressive.

worth a look.

 

[Wizard]

One of my work mates is a passionate Richmond fan. He couldn't care less that he could be leaving, was surprised we're even chasing him.

Are we just assuming that your mate has a clue what he is talking about?

Just because someone is a fan doesn't mean they actually have a clue.

 

[go_the_dockers]

Assuming we lose Neale this year, I would rather wait until next year and chase Hogan, Martin, Coniglio and Swallow (the last two free agents).

This will leave us pick 4,5, 22 to get some good recruits. I personally would be quiet happy to turn pick 5 into two later 1st round picks (Ideally 10 and 14 or something like that).

This way, if we do sign Hogan will have position covered (at the moment we need 2 or 3 more small to medium forwards), we will know how Cox and Taberner are going and just as importantly we will know how Hogan's foot has held up.

On top of that, this is a really good draft and history says you need to pick the draft when you trade away first round picks.

I know it is stupid to pass up Hogan if he is available, I just don't feel it is the right time for our list.

 

[Yeti]

On top of that, this is a really good draft and history says you need to pick the draft when you trade away first round picks.

Just a point of order here. How can anyone predict the quality of a draft before they have even done a pre season?

Last year's was supposed to be fairly average but if you look at the top 15 picks, most are playing a lot of footy, some are playing some really good footy.

It's one of those things that really bugs me for some reason.

As for Hogan, if he wants to come surely we get it done. He is a known quantity. We could end up with another Morabito/ Pitt situation.

 

[Leslie_Chow]

Assuming we lose Neale this year, I would rather wait until next year and chase Hogan, Martin, Coniglio and Swallow (the last two free agents).

This will leave us pick 4,5, 22 to get some good recruits. I personally would be quiet happy to turn pick 5 into two later 1st round picks (Ideally 10 and 14 or something like that).

This way, if we do sign Hogan will have position covered (at the moment we need 2 or 3 more small to medium forwards), we will know how Cox and Taberner are going and just as importantly we will know how Hogan's foot has held up.

On top of that, this is a really good draft and history says you need to pick the draft when you trade away first round picks.

I know it is stupid to pass up Hogan if he is available, I just don't feel it is the right time for our list.

We won’t be giving up much less for Hogan next year despite being uncontracted. It will still be a first round pick +

 

[Paracleet]

We won’t be giving up much less for Hogan next year despite being uncontracted. It will still be a first round pick +

Agree. Good players still cost alot in trade ooc. Top tier players it doesn't affect their value at all.

 

[free at last]

Assuming we lose Neale this year, I would rather wait until next year and chase Hogan, Martin, Coniglio and Swallow (the last two free agents).

This will leave us pick 4,5, 22 to get some good recruits. I personally would be quiet happy to turn pick 5 into two later 1st round picks (Ideally 10 and 14 or something like that).

This way, if we do sign Hogan will have position covered (at the moment we need 2 or 3 more small to medium forwards), we will know how Cox and Taberner are going and just as importantly we will know how Hogan's foot has held up.

On top of that, this is a really good draft and history says you need to pick the draft when you trade away first round picks.

I know it is stupid to pass up Hogan if he is available, I just don't feel it is the right time for our list.

......and then we get in to a bidding war with WC if we wait until next.If a trade can be facilitated this year we just have to pull the trigger imo(providing all clear on the medical front).

 

[Taylor]

What if West Coast can't afford Gaff because they are working Hogan?

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

What if West Coast can't afford Gaff because they are working Hogan?

Not sure if serious but they picked up Brander and Allen last year (even if he's being played in the backline). No chance at Hogan

 

[Taylor]

Not sure if serious but they picked up Brander and Allen last year (even if he's being played in the backline). No chance at Hogan

I think it would be naive to think that we have exclusive dealings with Hogan should he want to return to Perth.

West Coast would get Hogan, trade Brander to GWS where he was playing in their academy for Lobb and GWS's first then they are all sorted for both post-Kennedy and the next year.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

I think it would be naive to think that we have exclusive dealings with Hogan should he want to return to Perth.

West Coast would get Hogan, trade Brander to GWS where he was playing in their academy for Lobb and GWS's first then they are all sorted for both post-Kennedy and the next year.

Sure but it'd have to be within reason.

They obviously couldnt match what we can and he wouldnt be as worth as much with what they already have on their list and being in a premiership window. No doubt they've talked to him, no doubt they know they arent really in the running

 

[go_the_dockers]

We won’t be giving up much less for Hogan next year despite being uncontracted. It will still be a first round pick +

Hopefully next year we are just about to turn the corner, and start making finals and we can offer up our 2019 First and 2020 first pick for a 2nd round back and they will take it.

I am also hoping that my signing 3 or 4 quick agile small to medium forward this year, our forward line starts to function

 

[arsesmart]

What if West Coast can't afford Gaff because they are working Hogan?

The WC are more into Kelly. Their midfield needs the most immediate attention. Lobb would even be a better fit than Hogan for their immediate needs. Agree with Snuffaluphagus, they wouldn't have the pick firepower that Freo will have, so it becomes a more uncertain investment to put the work into.

If Neale were to leave, the best possible outcome would be to turn him into Hogan in a near equivalent exchange.

 

[Walkingwounded]

Not sure if serious but they picked up Brander and Allen last year (even if he's being played in the backline). No chance at Hogan

NexMinit

 

[apuchar]

He is just so nothing though. Deadset Mark Hutchings is a better midfielder.

Not so good inside or at a clearance that you can be like yeah ok maybe he could be a poor man's Neale for a season or two if we lose Lachie

His kicking is ok but nothing to write home about

He runs all day yeah for sure but so did DeBoer/Barlow/Danyle and he's not fast, he just runs

Spent the preceding 3 seasons perpetually injured

Is a deadset thug:


Great, we've recruited a list clogger.

I'm not trying to convince you otherwise. We gave a need for a strong bodied ball winner who has a strong defensive side to take some pressure off Fyfe and and he is the one we chose. I'm interested in what he may be able to bring to the overall dynamics of the team rather then just focus in on his limitations. The fact that Ross thinks he is likely to be in our best 22 (and still Richmonds)probably says something about his perceived value to our team structure. If nothing else it will be interesting to see what having Conca means about how we are intending to go about things. I hope he does well once he settles in. I'm on the Tonka truck honk honk

 

[Quazar]

Damn, I saw the mention and assumed Hogan must of requested a trade and I was going to get a "Told you so" from you. Disappointed mate. Back to 0% after that.

C'mon, even nerd-face Barrett mentions May in Melbourne's backline next year "even if Hogan is gone" as a possibility

surely this means you can at least shift to about 17%?!?!

Hogannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn.............



.........might be coming

 

[Simmofreo]

Peter Bell was interviewed on SEN today Andy was asked about Hogan and he played a very straight bat. He did however know off cuff how many goas he kicked and how many games he played in 2018 unprompted.

Why would our GM of footballs operatios know those stats?

Because he was a commentator this year

That's his job

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[Wally Walpamur]

Crumpet saying next week Gaff and Lycett will declare that they are leaving and West Coast are likely to get two end of first round picks. Tim Kelly to West Coast for the Lycett compo. Leaves them with a fair bit of cap room and an end of first round pick to make a play at someone.

 

[eastfreo75]

Really think we should take pick 4(5) to the draft.

Lets trade pick 5(6) and next years first round for Hogan plus pick 33(34).

Majority of top 5 picks play 200 games and the minority that don't are due to injury ie Morabito, Gumbleton.

Either Smith, Rozee, or Rankine will be a least solid players.