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2012-13 FA Cup

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lol. There is more atmosphere at an A league match than at those 2 stadiums

Yeah we don't even sing when we're winning anymore, we sing when we're in the CL (which means we never sing)

Mancs take their iphones out and snap photos when they're winning and leave early when they're losing
 
Yeah we don't even sing when we're winning anymore, we sing when we're in the CL (which means we never sing)

Mancs take their iphones out and snap photos when they're winning and leave early when they're losing

I have to admit for the Swansea game it was loud but that was the first time in a while i've heard noise at Anfield.
 
I have to admit for the Swansea game it was loud but that was the first time in a while i've heard noise at Anfield.

You sure that wasn't the Swansea fans singing? :D

Recent games when we're thrashing teams they're making a bit more noise, but that's only if we're 3-0 up, you can hear a pin drop when we aren't winning
 

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Howard Webb reff for United vs Chelsea. Hopefully we get some fair reffing now

You did tonight, just because the ref wasn't for United it may have felt unfair to a United supporter
 
1 thecatattack - Darlington Railway Athletic F.C South Shield Spennymoor Town Trafford Marine Macclesfield Town Wigan Athletic Win 4-1
1 blue boy jatz - Penrith Crook Town Holker Old Boys Tadcaster Albion Boston United Altrincham Burton Albion Leicester City Huddersfield Town Lose 1-4 New Team: Wigan Athletic
2 Dustholian 1870 - Abington Town Cinderford Town Merthyr Town AFC Totton Cambridge City MK Dons Lose 1-3 New Team: Barnsley
4 mojito - Sporting Bengal United Cockfosters AFC Kempston Rovers Hampton & Richmond Borough Bury Town Dorchester Town Luton Town Lose 0-3 New Team: Milwall
3 ag6858 - Abbey Hey Halifax Town Lincoln City Mansfield Town Liverpool Oldham Athletic Draw 2-2 Lose 1-3 New Team: Everton
3 Copulator - Glasshoughton Welfare Eccleshill United North Ferriby United Ossett Albion Bradford Park Avenue Doncaster Rovers Oldham Athletic Draw 2-2 Lose 1-3 New Team: Everton
3 Redalert - Pilkington XXX Wolverhampton Casuals Tividale Hinckley United Ossett Albion Bradford Park Avenue Doncaster Rovers Oldham Athletic Draw 2-2 Lose 1-3 New Team: Everton
3 Gak Attack - Old Woodstock Town Wantage Town North Leigh Yate Town Cheltenham Town Everton Draw 2-2 Win 3-1
3 jethro11 - Stockport Sports Ashton Athletic Lancaster City Salford City FC United of Manchester Hereford United Cheltenham Town Everton Draw 2-2 Win 3-1
3 Dirty Bird - Barton Town Old Boys Cammell Laird FC United of Manchester Hereford United Cheltenham Town Everton Draw 2-2 Win 3-1
5 HolyRioli - Biggleswade United Wealdstone Lowestoft Town St Albans City Lowestoft Town Braintree Town Tranmere Rovers Derby County Blackburn Rovers Win 1-0
6 cats2rise - Barking Staines Lammas Barton Rovers Arlesey Town Coventry City Tottenham Leeds United Lose 0-4 New Team: Manchester City
6 Milang_Panthers - Odd Down Sherborne Town Clevedon Town Didcot Town Arlesey Town Coventry City Tottenham Leeds United Lose 0-4 New Team: Manchester City
7 simba_ - Greenwich Borough Cray Wanderers Chelmsford City Crawley Town Reading Lose 1-2 New Team: Manchester United
7 Mr_Bojangles - Eton Manor Norwich United Grays Athletic Maidstone United East Thurrock United Chelmsford City Crawley Town Reading Lose 1-2 New Team: Manchester United
7 Ricketts - Stone Dominoes Rocestor Chasetown Dereham Town Metrpolitan Police Crawley Town Reading Lose 1-2 New Team: Manchester United
7 Hawthorn United - South Park Metropolitan Police Crawley Town Reading Lose 1-2 New Team: Manchester United
7 NFGKizza - Tow Law Town Bishop Auckland AFC Flyde Accrington Stanley Oxford United Sheffield United Reading Lose 1-2 New Team: Manchester United
8 Triple E - Dorking VCD Athletic Horsham Thurrock Welling United Bishop's Stafford Hastings United Middlesbrough Lose 0-2 New Team: Chelsea
8 Homeless - Newport (IW) Salisbury City Hayes & Yeading United Boreham Wood Brentford Chelsea Win 2-0

Thistle - Celtic Nation Eliminated for cheating

So in the final 8 we'll have
Everton (ag6858, Copulator, Redalert, Gak Attack, Jethro11, Dirty Bird) vs Wigan Athletic (thecatattack, blue boy jatz)

Manchester City (cats2rise, Milang_Panthers) vs Barnsley (Dustholian 1870)

Manchester United (simba_, Mr_Bolangles, Ricketts, Hawthorn United, NFGKizza) vs Chelsea (Triple E, Homeless)

Milwall (mojito) vs Blackburn Rovers (Holy Rioli)
1 thecatattack - Darlington Railway Athletic F.C South Shield Spennymoor Town Trafford Marine Macclesfield Town Wigan Athletic
1 blue boy jatz - Penrith Crook Town Holker Old Boys Tadcaster Albion Boston United Altrincham Burton Albion Leicester City Huddersfield Town Wigan Athletic
1 ag6858 - Abbey Hey Halifax Town Lincoln City Mansfield Town Liverpool Oldham Athletic Everton
1 Copulator - Glasshoughton Welfare Eccleshill United North Ferriby United Ossett Albion Bradford Park Avenue Doncaster Rovers Oldham Athletic Everton
1 Redalert - Pilkington XXX Wolverhampton Casuals Tividale Hinckley United Ossett Albion Bradford Park Avenue Doncaster Rovers Oldham Athletic Everton
1 Gak Attack - Old Woodstock Town Wantage Town North Leigh Yate Town Cheltenham Town Everton
1 jethro11 - Stockport Sports Ashton Athletic Lancaster City Salford City FC United of Manchester Hereford United Cheltenham Town Everton
1 Dirty Bird - Barton Town Old Boys Cammell Laird FC United of Manchester Hereford United Cheltenham Town Everton
2 Dustholian 1870 - Abington Town Cinderford Town Merthyr Town AFC Totton Cambridge City MK Dons Barnsley
2 cats2rise - Barking Staines Lammas Barton Rovers Arlesey Town Coventry City Tottenham Leeds United Manchester City
2 Milang_Panthers - Odd Down Sherborne Town Clevedon Town Didcot Town Arlesey Town Coventry City Tottenham Leeds United Manchester City
3 mojito - Sporting Bengal United Cockfosters AFC Kempston Rovers Hampton & Richmond Borough Bury Town Dorchester Town Luton Town Milwall
3 HolyRioli - Biggleswade United Wealdstone Lowestoft Town St Albans City Lowestoft Town Braintree Town Tranmere Rovers Derby County Blackburn Rovers
4 simba_ - Greenwich Borough Cray Wanderers Chelmsford City Crawley Town Reading Manchester United
4 Mr_Bojangles - Eton Manor Norwich United Grays Athletic Maidstone United East Thurrock United Chelmsford City Crawley Town Reading Manchester United
4 Ricketts - Stone Dominoes Rocestor Chasetown Dereham Town Metrpolitan Police Crawley Town Reading Manchester United
4 Hawthorn United - South Park Metropolitan Police Crawley Town Reading Manchester United
4 NFGKizza - Tow Law Town Bishop Auckland AFC Flyde Accrington Stanley Oxford United Sheffield United Reading Manchester United
4 Triple E - Dorking VCD Athletic Horsham Thurrock Welling United Bishop's Stafford Hastings United Middlesbrough Chelsea
4 Homeless - Newport (IW) Salisbury City Hayes & Yeading United Boreham Wood Brentford Chelsea

Thistle - Celtic Nation Eliminated for cheating
 
lol. There is more atmosphere at an A league match than at those 2 stadiums

Not particularly relevant, and Mick Dennis is a bit of a twunt, but I don't need an excuse do I?


Why Manchester United have sold their souls

ALMOST 10 per cent of the entire population of the world supports Manchester United.

By: Mick Dennis Published: Tue, March 5, 2013

That is what the club believes, at any rate.

Even Real Madrid, another global mega-brand who visit Old Trafford tonight, would not make such a startling claim.

But while United have been wooing the world they have lost their soul.

And tonight’s Champions League fixture, although it will be a spectacular gala occasion, should be a warning to English football.

The stadium has become a tourist venue to tick off bucket lists

I went to Old Trafford as an away fan on Saturday and it was a dispiriting experience – even before my team were crushed 4-0.

Decades of visiting with the hack pack had inured me to the gradual sea change. But as a spectator I saw how the stadium has become a tourist venue to tick off bucket lists.

Yes, I know it is a cliche that United supporters don’t live in Manchester. But it is also true.

My Friday night hotel, close to the M6, was packed with Londoners wearing new replica United shirts.

Then, in Manchester on Saturday lunch time, my wife and I headed for a hotel near the ground for refreshments, as you do.

Well, as you do if you don’t live near enough to eat and drink at home. This hotel, too, was full of trippers, most of them not speaking English.

On the walk to the stadium, we had to avoid bumping into scores of excited folk from the Asian-Pacific region taking pictures of each other, and every five steps or so we came across someone flogging £5 “match-day scarves”.

Half the flag commemorated the home team and the other was in the colours of the away team.

Why buy one of those if you go every week or, in the case of the away team (Norwich), expect to go to Old Trafford once a season?

Answer: you wouldn’t. They are for people for whom visiting Old Trafford is a once-in-a-life-time experience.

Inside the ground, “supporters” from Berwick, Corby, Belfast and the Lebanon got special mentions on the public address system because it was their first visit. My guess is that, for most, it will be their only visit.

So United’s atmosphere has evaporated. The Stretford End used to be so loud you could not hear yourself think in the Press Box.

But, only when United had secured their 4-0 lead did the Stretford End make a noise loud enough for those of us in the away corner to hear.

By then, a plethora of empty seats showed that a lot of trippers had made early dashes for the airport and motorways.

When my car joined the queues out of the city, nearby vehicles included two hotel shuttle buses, a coach from Nottingham and one from Wales.

Are any of these tourists really supporters?

It depends on your definition of support.

But unless you are a United fan who has had to trudge back to the North-west from, say, London on a miserable November night after watching your team lose, you cannot savour the triumphs, surely?

And that preposterous claim that nearly one in 10 of the world’s population is a United fan, is stretching the definition of “fan” so thinly that it is transparently barmy.

It comes from a survey which polled 54,000 adults in some 39 countries.

The figures were extrapolated to produce numbers for the planet and showed 659million would say they follow United.

Even allowing the bogus logic and flawed statistical analysis of using what someone in Japan says to produce numbers for Vanuatu or Turkmenistan, this figure is bunkum.

Most foreign fans catch glimpses of Giggs and Co on TV. They don’t support them. They are mildly sympathetic to them.

But a lot of people abroad buy United shirts and their interest is sufficient for the club to have commercial partners in 72 countries and for former investment banker Ed Woodward, who has been responsible for the club’s international marketing, to become chief executive when David Gill steps down this season.

Of course, United are not the only English club who have gone international. At Chelsea, there are plenty of foreign tourists. Even Norwich have a “Global Canaries” strategy.

And, come to think of it, I live 130 miles from Norwich and so could not join in when the Yellow Army sang “We support our local team” on Saturday.

But that is why tonight’s game against Real Madrid should warn English football. If we all rush to pursue United as they chase income from everywhere and anywhere, our game will cease to be a celebration of English communities.

Shinji Kagawa, a Japanese who played in Germany, put Norwich to the sword with a United hat-trick.

The contingent of Japanese journalists based permanently in Manchester were delighted. United’s marketeers were thrilled. But I was reminded of an ancient joke.

Tony Hancock, who died in the year when United first won the European Cup, made an episode of his TV comedy series called The Radio Ham. He played an amateur radio enthusiast who twiddled his dials and spoke to people abroad.

One line went: “I’ve got friends all over the world. None in this country. But all over the world.”
 

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I went to the Chelsea to have a guess at their line-up but all of them are just complaining about how they have no chance and how United will win because of the ref's (lol). On paper I would say they have the stronger team. Also their 6000 allocated seats for match aren't anywhere close to being sold out
 

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