Coach Future of the club (Bevo, board, assistant coaches, football department)

[oldfaithfuldog]

Are you saying he did nothing?

No I am not, I believe that is your view.

 

[Zeno The Great]

Hard to know without being in the box, but to the naked eye there weren't enough moves made to stem the avalanche of goals, but at the same time where the hell is the leadership on field to do the same. It can't all be on bevo, surely some of the experienced players can stand up and do something. Put yourself behind the ball, close down their damaging players, it feels to me we are bereft of leadership.

 

[yebach]

No I am not, I believe that is your view.

Ok. So could you please explain to me what moves Bevo made when Brisbane were kicking goal after unanswered goal?

 

[Ted's Robot]

Just watched a little bit of the third again, we were still up but the lions were coming and the commentators mentioned there are no spares, it's 1 on 1 all over the ground. Jones was deep 1 on 1. I thought a spare in defence may have been worth a try at the time?

 

[Mojorisin]

Just watched a little bit of the third again, we were still up but the lions were coming and the commentators mentioned there are no spares, it's 1 on 1 all over the ground. Jones was deep 1 on 1. I thought a spare in defence may have been worth a try at the time?

I wouldn't mined sending JOD into defence for the last few minutes of each quarter to create a spare similar to what Carlton to with Curnow.

 

[Snarls Barkley]

Not sure what Bevo could have done except maybe attempted to slow the game down more in the second half, but Brisbane were that dominant in the middle I doubt that would have worked.

I’ve been really happy with Bevo this year, last year I thought he was done. But I hope they resign him soon. The players of character believe in him and respect his approach. He’s improved his approach with the media and we have been in every game despite key injuries this year.

#3mo#3moreyearsbevo

What's the rush to re-sign?

 

[oldfaithfuldog]

Ok. So could you please explain to me what moves Bevo made when Brisbane were kicking goal after unanswered goal?

Can you please explain what he should have done? I’m happy with Bevo over the journey and you’re not, so justify your position instead of asking me.

 

[oldfaithfuldog]

I wouldn't mined sending JOD into defence for the last few minutes of each quarter to create a spare similar to what Carlton to with Curnow.

Don’t mind that idea

 

[oldfaithfuldog]

I wouldn't mined sending JOD into defence for the last few minutes of each quarter to create a spare similar to what Carlton to with Curnow.

Stop the speculation and the risk of him getting poached. But I’m not welded onto the idea of doing it now, just a view. I’d also like it to shut k corns up.

However, without being in the room I have no idea where the parties sit and they may be both comfortable to let it play out longer. The dogs have great leaders off field at the moment, which is a far cry from when I was a kid supporting them. They will make the right call at the right time.

 

[Philthy1]

Hard to know without being in the box, but to the naked eye there weren't enough moves made to stem the avalanche of goals, but at the same time where the hell is the leadership on field to do the same. It can't all be on beo, surely some of the experienced players can stand up and do something. Put yourself behind the ball, close down their damaging players, it feels to me we are bereft of leadership.

Marcus and Adz would make a significant difference in the leadership stakes.

 

[oldfaithfuldog]

Marcus and Adz would make a significant difference in the leadership stakes.

100%. There on field leadership and decision making would have likely saved that game for us.

 

[BallaratBulldog]

Marcus and Adz would make a significant difference in the leadership stakes.

While true these run ons have been happening with both present.

 

[Dogs Rule]

Wouldn't be entirely surprising to see us win the next 5 and get on a roll like other years.

You just wish one year we would actually not have to do this scramble to the finish and put ourselves in such awkward positions.

Just get to Round 12 at 9-3 or something - you know, something different.

 

[The White Mouse]

Teams evolve over time. The 3peaters are the exception not the the rule. It's bloody hard to win one and every year 18 teams are trying to do just that.

Farging chill. If we won one every 10yrs from 2016 onwards we'd be well ahead of the curve. No one wins all the time and it would be farging boring if they did...including us.

Every year is a new project. A stand alone. You have what you have and attempt to find a way within it to win as often as you can and makev the finals. Then if it all comes together v and you're healthy you're a chance of winning.

It's sport. Professional sport but sport.

 

[threenewpadlocks]

Teams evolve over time. The 3peaters are the exception not the the rule. It's bloody hard to win one and every year 18 teams are trying to do just that.

Farging chill. If we won one every 10yrs from 2016 onwards we'd be well ahead of the curve. No one wins all the time and it would be farging boring if they did...including us.

Every year is a new project. A stand alone. You have what you have and attempt to find a way within it to win as often as you can and makev the finals. Then if it all comes together v and you're healthy you're a chance of winning.

It's sport. Professional sport but sport.

Not to mention the structural disadvantages we have from being a small club, worse home ground advantages than the rest of the league, fixturing, player movement, etc. etc, which people fail to recognise.

We do not have a true home game (ie playing a non-Vic team in Victoria) until Round 8, for instance.

 

[fred cook]

Not to mention the structural disadvantages we have from being a small club, worse home ground advantages than the rest of the season, fixturing, player movement, etc. etc, which people fail to recognise.

We do not have a true home game (ie playing a non-Vic team in Victoria) until Round 8, for instance.

The only team that has has a won a flag as a dedicated marvel home tenant team

 

[Deadly Darcy]

I’m not a fan of Bevo continuing on - I think we need a regeneration and a different voice to change things up.

I always felt however, if we could be 3 and 3 after 6 we would have done extremely well given our injuries and the JUH issues. To have been really heavily in the game v Pies and some of what we did v Brisbane has really encouraged me. I actually think they are doing a great job with the cattle we have at the moment. Naughts getting on to a few will help his confidence as well.

I’m glass half full for 2025

 

[The White Mouse]

Not to mention the structural disadvantages we have from being a small club, worse home ground advantages than the rest of the season, fixturing, player movement, etc. etc, which people fail to recognise.

We do not have a true home game (ie playing a non-Vic team in Victoria) until Round 8, for instance.

It's tiresome at times to read the overwhelmingly negative takes.

17 other teams are trying to do what we aspire to do .... every year. It's not easy and you want as many characters on your list as possible who can front up to the it's not easy bit but will endeavour to find a way.

And we do appear to get shafted with fixturing. When we win you just treasure it more.

 

[Freshwater]

Maybe Kenny would be perfect for our group next year?

 

[Bulldogs85]

Maybe Kenny would be perfect for our group next year?

No thanks

 

[threenewpadlocks]

Maybe Kenny would be perfect for our group next year?

This thread is 424 pages long.

Port's thread on Hinkley is 360 pages long ....



on the 13th part of their Hinkley threads

 

[dogwatch]

In some ways I see this as a make or break year for both the team and Bevo. There is no guarantee that any of the following players will go around next year: Libba, Jones, Treloar, Duryea and JJ. One or more of them may not even see this season out if injuries and form intercede. Finding replacements will be difficult through the draft and/or the trading period, particularly for the first three.
Baker, Coffield, A Jones, Poulter, and Scott are all out of contract at season's end and it could be debatable if any of them are worth being retained. Add the uncertainty of Jamarra's future into the mix.
If we don't make finals then that is probably the end of Bevo's tenure. Still a long way to go this year but there is significant pressure on the coach and team and depending on our fortunes, the clock is ticking for personnel at all levels.

I have been critical of Bevo but things have looked better for most of this year, yesterday's capitulation notwithstanding. So I'm not calling for his head.

However if he were to go, then it would be a great time to get a new coach for the list reasons you have pointed out. Of those older players I expect only Libba would remain, and even he's a possibility to retire. Then there could be a cleanout of the fringe players and perhaps JUH, meaning we could have as many as 10-11 new players on the list in 2026 (not all of them 18yos of course).

Turning over 25% of the list would be a great opportunity to put your stamp on the way we want to play.

Wouldn't be entirely surprising to see us win the next 5 and get on a roll like other years.

I agree with this.

We've lost three winnable games which has been disappointing but in our depleted circumstances 2-3 is not that bad a start. If we get a few quality players back, some of those returning get some miles into their legs (LJones, JJ, Bont), and some of our class of '24 and '25 get some more game experience (Sanders, Freijah, Davidson, Dolan, Hynes, maybe even Croft and Jaques) things could turn around quite quickly.

My expectations for 2025 are pretty low right now, maybe 9th or 10th. I don't think we'll sneak into the finals. However I do think the recent list acquisitions have been good and the future is not looking too bad. Bevo or no Bevo.

 

[Dogs_r_barking]

I think if we manage to make the top 8, good on us, we have overcome the disadvantage of having half of our midfield and forward line out.

If we don’t make the 8, we have an attractive first round pick to trade or take to the draft, and I really think we need to get some more elite talent into our midfield, one way or the other before Tassie comes in to the draft.

 

[Bald Headed Flog]

Hard to know without being in the box, but to the naked eye there weren't enough moves made to stem the avalanche of goals, but at the same time where the hell is the leadership on field to do the same. It can't all be on bevo, surely some of the experienced players can stand up and do something. Put yourself behind the ball, close down their damaging players, it feels to me we are bereft of leadership.

Our two most experienced players are currently out, along with our two most dynamic forwards. Do this to any other list and they’d start to crumble under the pressure of the best team in the competition. The fact we were ~40 points up against the reigning premiers with such a serious age and experience deficit should be worth some appreciation.

People are too negative. In my eyes, we’ve snagged two wins and been competitive in our 3 losses against good teams, while dealing with close to the worst injury list in the comp. The signs are there for a serious turnaround in form when we get Bont back imo. Hes a generational player who lifts the quality of this side by a massive amount

 

[oldfaithfuldog]

I consider it concrete if I've heard it from two separate sources and the information is both pretty much the same. I have contacts both within the Dogs and outside in the football community.
There are also at least 3 ''ITK'' posters who message me regularly, two who are super prominent posters (10k+ posts) who refuse to comment about this stuff publicly due to the amount of backlash that sometimes is thrown towards leakers here, I don't mind copping it on the chin if people don't want to believe/think it's trolling, it's an internet forum after all.

Bevo may not have lost the players, but it seems he has started to at least lose the skipper...

I’m am avid fan of Bevo, but if it is true (a big if) bont has lost faith it’s over. All speculation of course as he seems to be coaching well this year with injuries, but in Bont we trust. And if he thinks we need a change, I’d back his judgement. But a big unfounded if.