List Mgmt. Trade & Free Agency 2025

[Lord of the Wings]

Young surely get delisted

Sonsie, Ryan and Miller should also go

 

[Tonythetiger]

Looking back and seeing what Luke Hodge ,Sam Mitchell and Ben Cousins did to the young teams in the Twilight of their years can't be underestimated we need a Bont , Cripps type big name player to come in to lift the standards at training and off field etiquette to make the young fellas walk taller , Not trying to offend our veterans but we are going to need someone with an aura who just opens their mouth and all young kids just stop and listen absorbing all they see and hear we are still 2 or 3 dips in the well away from this but hopefully they earmark someone down the track ....not saying they will be available just using those 2 as example

I totally agree. It's just tough trying to work out who that player is. There's no dynasty we can take from. If Broad wasn't on our list he would be the kind you are after. You need a player that's had premiership success, is the right character, isn't wanted enough by their current club, is happy to play in a team of kids, has their body right, is an excellent trainer and has actual leadership qualities. Need probably 2 years at a minimum with them to make it worth it.

Parker was a good get for North, Darling ticked 'some' of those boxes. Viney won't leave the Dees but he comes to mind. Probably just makes more sense to keep Lynch, Prestia, Broad and Nank around as long as possible for leadership alone.

 

[tora tora tora]

Prestia is just about a certainty. There's a bit of conjecture over whether Kosi has a two or three year deal, but I think they may just pay him out anyway.

Smith and Sonsie are probably next in line, and I think Dow will probably be in trouble by the end of the year.

Name	Years Service	Status
Campbell Gray​	2​	Non-Free Agent​
Dion Prestia​	9​	Unrestricted Free Agent​
Jacob Bauer​	4​	Non-Free Agent​
Jacob Blight​	2​	Non-Free Agent​
James Trezise​	3​	Non-Free Agent​
Judson Clarke​	4​	Non-Free Agent​
Kaleb Smith​	3​	Non-Free Agent​
Kamdyn McIntosh​	13​	Unrestricted Free Agent​
Liam Fawcett​	2​	Non-Free Agent​
Oliver Hayes-Brown​	2​	Non-Free Agent​
Sam Banks​	4​	Non-Free Agent​
Steely Green​	3​	Non-Free Agent​
Thomson Dow​	6​	Non-Free Agent​
Tom Brown​	4​	Non-Free Agent​
Tom Lynch​	7​	Unrestricted Free Agent​
Tylar Young​	3​	Non-Free Agent​
Tyler Sonsie​	4​	Non-Free Agent​

Does Sonz survive? borderline

Only seen 3 of this years draft crop.
Out of contract 2025.

Contracted Kosi would have to retire like Dusty did. Castagna & Caddy & Rance quit playing but they stay on the list until the contract is up.
KMac & Dow will trigger a contract extension..

there's no massive need to free up list spots.

from this list our Prestia, and the smalls.. Smith, , Green, . Sonsie. & BANKS, Young

 

[poppa pump]

He won't go to gws and Carlton can't afford him so down to us and Bummers.

100% correct -got told by a triple premiership former Carlton star that their cap is bulging and more backloading to come -they have no room at all.

It's Richmond or bombers

 

[Le RickyBobby]

It's Richmond or bombers

Hawks?

 

[tiger_tough]

Be worth getting Butters just to see Cornes sook up

 

[Karp3_dm]

I heard on the radio that colonwood are into butter

LOL colonwood

oldest list in comp and no picks

Yeah what are they gonna offer? Prison bar jumpers ?

 

[Blinger]

Pick purchasing isn't happening apparently

If that's true, just another way for the AFL to screw us over. When we would be in the best position out of almost all the teams to take advantage of our salary cap space.

 

[Richmond Flats]

No to Butters. Just aggressively hit the draft or try and get some 1-2 year players on the fringe elsewhere that can't get games on the cheap.

 

[Richmond Flats]

What's the go with Sam Butler? I remember he got injured but looked a talent in his junior days. Surely with the logjam of small forwards at the Hawks, he could easily be poached.

 

[SplintWhisky]

Looking back and seeing what Luke Hodge ,Sam Mitchell and Ben Cousins did to the young teams in the Twilight of their years can't be underestimated we need a Bont , Cripps type big name player to come in to lift the standards at training and off field etiquette to make the young fellas walk taller , Not trying to offend our veterans but we are going to need someone with an aura who just opens their mouth and all young kids just stop and listen absorbing all they see and hear we are still 2 or 3 dips in the well away from this but hopefully they earmark someone down the track ....not saying they will be available just using those 2 as example

You know what those three players you listed all have in common that Bont and Cripps don't? Multiple flags.

If we had these kids during Cotch's second last year it would of been a God send.

That said, we need to be smart with the selections. Someone that was a Captain is the minimum but someone who has ambitions to coach is the next step up. Basically just look at the Senior players GWS took vs Gold Coast. GWS took old players who were captains and most went on to coach whilst GC blew their load on Ablett and no one.

 

[DickieKnee]

100% correct -got told by a triple premiership former Carlton star that their cap is bulging and more backloading to come -they have no room at all.

It's Richmond or bombers

So we have to show some improvement on the field. He will go to whoever looks to have the better list out of us and Bummers.

 

[SleepingGiant]

I’m not in the get Harley camp, I still haven’t decided one way or another.

But this narrative we’re loading up/cost is a bunch of young stars is strange. He is only 19 and will cost us 2 early picks, one of which is cancelled out by getting Harley. So the opportunity lost is a shot at one young player, who could as easily be Paddy Dow as it could be Finn Callaghan given the history of the draft.

Yes but you need pick volume to get enough depth to contend. I get the logic but we also need to completely rebuild by the end of next year in terms of draft picks before Tassie. It’s slim pickings from 2027 onwards and the build will be much slower, like a 2011-17 style of slow grind we went through. We drafted our stars prior to expansion sides.

 

[Calcium Man]

Yes but you need pick volume to get enough depth to contend. I get the logic but we also need to completely rebuild by the end of next year in terms of draft picks before Tassie. It’s slim pickings from 2027 onwards and the build will be much slower, like a 2011-17 style of slow grind we went through. We drafted our stars prior to expansion sides.

Again it’s losing one pick/player. We literally just took 6 first round picks last year, a third of a side (not mention 5 below 30 in 2021).

Even if we get Harley this year we likely keep a pick this year and trade out 2026 pick because we’ve got Leys (and Kellaway this year). That would be 10 first round picks over 5 drafts, I’m guessing only GC and GWS would be able to claim a similar total over a short period.

One player isn’t making a massive depth difference. Also looking through our list I see plenty of depth/role player and real lack of star power, Campbell, mansell, brown, banks, Ralphsmith, Ross, smith and trezies. Plus juddy, steely, mcauliffe and blight, maybe Alger but it’s early.

 

[TheOptimum18]

Really like his profile. Turns 21 this year, 195cm midfielder, and was described as a composed and (potentially) elite user of the ball in his draft year, although speed may have been an issue (good agility out of contests though).

In theory wouldn't cost much in a trade, and I think would be smarter trading in someone of Hustwaite's age profile alongside a top mid prospect from the draft (such as Fred Rodriguez) rather than getting 2 mids from the draft alone.

 

[Calcium Man]

Really like his profile. Turns 21 this year, 195cm midfielder, and was described as a composed and (potentially) elite user of the ball in his draft year, although speed may have been an issue (good agility out of contests though).

In theory wouldn't cost much in a trade, and I think would be smarter trading in someone of Hustwaite's age profile alongside a top mid prospect from the draft (such as Fred Rodriguez) rather than getting 2 mids from the draft alone.

Our ruck will end up our shortest mid at this rate

 

[tiger_tough]

Really like his profile. Turns 21 this year, 195cm midfielder, and was described as a composed and (potentially) elite user of the ball in his draft year, although speed may have been an issue (good agility out of contests though).

In theory wouldn't cost much in a trade, and I think would be smarter trading in someone of Hustwaite's age profile alongside a top mid prospect from the draft (such as Fred Rodriguez) rather than getting 2 mids from the draft alone.

Who?

 

[Rocco sifreddi]

Who da fook is Henry Halfwit?

 

[Rubber Hips]

Just get this bloke

 

[lizard man]

I wonder if we will have a second bite of the apple at Clayton Oliver …. Could really turbo charge our midfield

 

[Mr Magic]

I wonder if we will have a second bite of the apple at Clayton Oliver …. Could really turbo charge our midfield

We could have a bite at Harvey Langford, after all he was a RFC supporter and Melbourne love talls and need forwards whether players or 2025 draft picks. Melbourne have trouble kicking a score and we have a number of talls

Depending on the Melbourne timeline they are accommodating we could assist we flexibility over generations

Melbourne traded away their first draft pick to to Essendon, FA compo would not be a big thing for them I suppose. Do Melbourne want to keep Trac and what does Trac want from the list to stay at MFC as was it not reported he was not happy with the direction?

For us we could argue, Lalor more forward and Smillie, well Smillie could play in a few positions, we still are learning about Smillie being such a unusual unicorn.

Melbourne are known to pull a few strings if they think it is in their interests and they probably will want to be seen to be doing something and keep their fan base satisfied while giving them options and a pathway to the years ahead. Melbourne have done it tough over the years having to bottom out at times, I perceive them as pragmatists at times. They will probably have a eye to the future because I suppose they see themselves as hard to beat Lions, GWS and Gold Coast int he next few years, who knows what they are thinking but they are probably flexible given they have a eye on the future with Lindsay, Windsor and others

I do not think Harvey would be against coming to us and we have other 2024 draftees to suit his career trajectory.

Melbourne also have Windsor and Lindsay apart from Oliver and Trac as well as others so it is not a useless situation for who wants to go. Assuming some want to go to Melbourne or they prefer someone in the 2025 draft it would not be the worst scenario

 

[tiger_tough]

I wonder if we will have a second bite of the apple at Clayton Oliver …. Could really turbo charge our midfield

The game is going past inside mids that can't kick, and you want to add another one to Hopper and Taranto?

Plus he's lazy and a campaigner....and on $1.3million for the next 5 years.

 

[lizard man]

We could have a bite at Harvey Langford, after all he was a RFC supporter and Melbourne love talls and need forwards whether players or 2025 draft picks. Melbourne have trouble kicking a score and we have a number of talls

Depending on the Melbourne timeline they are accommodating we could assist we flexibility over generations

Melbourne traded away their first draft pick to to Essendon, FA compo would not be a big thing for them I suppose. Do Melbourne want to keep Trac and what does Trac want from the list to stay at MFC as was it not reported he was not happy with the direction?

For us we could argue, Lalor more forward and Smillie, well Smillie could play in a few positions, we still are learning about Smillie being such a unusual unicorn.

Melbourne are known to pull a few strings if they think it is in their interests and they probably will want to be seen to be doing something and keep their fan base satisfied while giving them options and a pathway to the years ahead. Melbourne have done it tough over the years having to bottom out at times, I perceive them as pragmatists at times. They will probably have a eye to the future because I suppose they see themselves as hard to beat Lions, GWS and Gold Coast int he next few years, who knows what they are thinking but they are probably flexible given they have a eye on the future with Lindsay, Windsor and others

I do not think Harvey would be against coming to us and we have other 2024 draftees to suit his career trajectory.

Melbourne also have Windsor and Lindsay apart from Oliver and Trac as well as others so it is not a useless situation for who wants to go. Assuming some want to go to Melbourne or they prefer someone in the 2025 draft it would not be the worst scenario

Interesting …. I like the way you think, dont think they would let Langford go but I guess you never know until you ask the question

 

[SleepingGiant]

What trade value would hopper and Taranto have end of 2026? Another year to bash em up a bit then trade them in for some high second rounders or an end of first rounder.

 

[Mr Magic]

Interesting …. I like the way you think, dont think they would let Langford go but I guess you never know until you ask the question

Don't think they would either but they know it is not about one player. It is about teams and they have others apart from Gawn Trac and Oliver. Maybe they think they can have a crack in the next few years with the right add ons. Either way they lack talls and forward threats

The thing for us with Harvey, played with Lalor and others, similar age, went for Tigers, suits our trajectory and might be the right fit because if Lalor is a real forward threat, which is possible, I can handle that, he is such a confident kick for goal and Smillie could play in a heap of positions, Smillie could become a legend of the game as a utility in a heap of positions, anything is possible with Smillie atm, so the fit is possible and helps us down the track arguably for a few different reasons