News 2014 Geelong guernseys and apparel - new 'premiership guernsey' to be worn in Round 23

[FromDawn2Dark]

The issue with that is, for clubs like Melbourne and Essendon, it's considered to be impossible for them to avoid every potential clash (particularly with each other) by only using their two traditional colours. A third colour needs to be introduced. Although there is something to be said for Melbourne to use its current clash as an EPL-style 'third kit' for games against Essendon (and possible the Bulldogs), as a red version would probably be better against every other team that they have a perceived clash with.

I don't see how? Essendon at home, mostly black. Melb away, mostly red. No clash. Same goes for vice versa. Gold Coast is the only team thats predominately red, but both Melb and Dons trad jumper doesn't clash with theirs. Bulldogs wear a lighter blue, doesn't clash with Essendon in their black. If at home to Melb, Melbourne wears mostly red, Dogs most blue, again no clash. Same when its vice versa. I cannot honestly think of two teams where they need a 3rd colour. If I am wrong, please provide me with an example.

To me it seems the AFL leave it up to the teams to decide what they wear, and therefore teams like Collingwood refuse to budge, and others, well I just can't understand it. Maybe the AFL wants colours which make it easier to see the numbers perhaps? But to me the only clash I'm concerned about, is players confusing team mates with opposition players. Sometimes you still see a player pinpoint a pass to the opposition and I think the modern game with its pace and congestion/zoning plays some part. Making the teams stand out more could help them out the most and that's the most important thing to me. Maybe when my eyes fail me I might think differently.....

 

[Beanstalk]

I don't see how? Essendon at home, mostly black. Melb away, mostly red.

It's not that simple. When you line the guernseys up side by side, sure. But when there's a pack of players, some standing, some hunched over, some on the ground, dark blue shorts and black tops, red V's and red sashes all over the place, there's a legitimate clash.

 

[Willo_]

Actually, there seemed to be a big move back to teams just wearing the white shorts with their home guernsey for away matches in 2013. By my count, Collingwood wore its clash guernsey twice in 2013 and, perhaps not coincidentally, both times it was against interstate teams, rather than its 'traditional rivals' (despite the fact that the white with black stripes would indisputably make for a better spectacle against Richmond, Essendon, Melbourne and Carlton - all teams with white numbers on a black/navy guernsey). The inference to be taken from that is that Collingwood, or the AFL picks and chooses when it feels like wearing its clash, rather than taking a common sense approach of 'the home team has white numbers on a black guernsey, so clearly Collingwood should wear its white guernsey with black numbers, to make the game as clear as possible'. If you spend too much time trying to figure out how the AFL's clash guernsey policy is in any way consistent, your head will explode.

Then, of course you have the Hawthorn clash guernsey (which I'm guessing was more of an away guernsey, since they seemed to wear it in every freaking away game and again, used no common sense in wearing it with white shorts, instead of the obvious gold option). So now you've got games where Hawthorn is playing away to teams like Collingwood and Carlton; teams which they have never remotely clashed with. And they change from a predominantly gold guernsey (which pretty much clashes with no-one and it would clash with no-one, if West Coast went back to its royal blue winged guernsey for home games) to a dark guernsey...plus they put on white shorts...a colour which is not part of its uniform, but is part of the home team's uniform. It's a joke.

I was actually thinking about that when we started talking about clashes.... what a joke the hawks add you said add white shorts and a darker jumper to play a team predominately black with white... alternate jumpers are meant to prevent a clash not make more of one

 

[MC Extra Dollop]

I don't see how? Essendon at home, mostly black. Melb away, mostly red. No clash. Same goes for vice versa. Gold Coast is the only team thats predominately red, but both Melb and Dons trad jumper doesn't clash with theirs. Bulldogs wear a lighter blue, doesn't clash with Essendon in their black. If at home to Melb, Melbourne wears mostly red, Dogs most blue, again no clash. Same when its vice versa. I cannot honestly think of two teams where they need a 3rd colour. If I am wrong, please provide me with an example.

Perhaps not, but I promise you, that is the reason why the AFL has told Melbourne that it must have a white clash jumper (even though the white clash creates other issues, with teams like St Kilda). I still think Melbourne's current clash guernsey is perfect for its games against Essendon...so why not have two clash guernseys available to create the best possible distinction, depending on the opponent? I'm positive Essendon is in the same boat and that after their inital stubborn refusal to do anything about a clash, they submitted a red with black sash design...and got knocked back. Adelaide is not allowed to use a yellow clash strip and I believe the same is true for Richmond, who will be getting a proper clash guernsey in 2014, I believe.

It could also be argued that while Collingwood doesn't have a third colour, they have three versions of the black and white stripes, with the Chippendales costumes they've worn in the past against North Melbourne. And to be honest, I think Geelong should look at doing something similar for away games against Collingwood (losing one or two hoops to accentuate the contrast).

To me it seems the AFL leave it up to the teams to decide what they wear, and therefore teams like Collingwood refuse to budge, and others, well I just can't understand it.

I just think that in 2013, besides us wearing our navy shorts a lot more than we had in recent seasons, it seemed like too many clubs had gone back to the away shorts/home guernsey look, in games where they would have worn a clash guernsey in years past. It seemed to be too widespread to me to merely be every team doing it of their own bat.

Maybe the AFL wants colours which make it easier to see the numbers perhaps? But to me the only clash I'm concerned about, is players confusing team mates with opposition players. Sometimes you still see a player pinpoint a pass to the opposition and I think the modern game with its pace and congestion/zoning plays some part. Making the teams stand out more could help them out the most and that's the most important thing to me. Maybe when my eyes fail me I might think differently.....

I think I've got pretty good eyesight. But when I see a game where teams like Carlton/Richmond/Collingwood/Melbourne/Essendon are playing each other and both wearing dark guernseys with one team wearing white shorts, it's frustrating. As I'm sure it is for thousands of people watching on television. Sure I can make out the players, but maybe it takes a split second longer than if one team was wearing a white guernsey (or a range of other colours). Why make things more difficult than they need to be?

 

[SJ]

This is the first clash guernsey I've truly liked. Passes the 'six year old could draw it'/'grandma could knit it' rules and achieves its purpose.

Turns out I went too early.

Someone gave the thing a tramp stamp.

 

[cats23]

Can't say I'm a fan of the tramp stamp

 

[____]

Sorry for the intrusion, I know as an opposition supporter my opinion means little.

Firstly I think your main jumper (besides the stupid ISC template they currently use) is great. Doesn't need any major changes.

However I think you guys should wear white shorts with your jumper, regardless of whether you are the home or away team. Your jumper is mostly white and having white shorts contrasts nicely with the opposition, it also (IMO) looks better than navy shorts (I think hoop designs, if with white, in general look better with white shorts - Imagine Celtic with green shorts). But the main reason why I think you guys should just adopt white shorts full time because it has become more recognisably Geelong over the past few years

All Geelong premierships in my lifetime and anyone under 50 was done in white shorts. The quicker it becomes part of your permanent home kit, the better.

Your 2014 clash jumper would've been great if not for the back. I haven't looked at your fixture but I assume you'll only need it for one game (Norf away), if you don't play Norf away then you won't need to wear it.

In terms of clash jumpers I'd like to see you guys either in a navy jumper with white pinhoops (similar to the Southampton 12/13 home shirt) with navy shorts or an all red jumper with either navy, red or white shorts (I believe whenever possible teams should play on their heritage for clash jumpers as long as it solves the clash. Norf should wear a blue jumper with a white V, Carlton in cream, Richmond in yellow and black hoops etc.) You guys only clash with Norf and Collingwood once common sense prevails and they return to white with black stripes as their main jumper.

 

[manboob]

Turns out I went too early.

Someone gave the thing a tramp stamp.

They're gonna regret that in 10 years when they've got kids... Can't say I'm looking forward to the P&Ws ripping on us about it

 

[Beanstalk]

Sorry for the intrusion, I know as an opposition supporter my opinion means little.

Firstly I think your main jumper (besides the stupid ISC template they currently use) is great. Doesn't need any major changes.

However I think you guys should wear white shorts with your jumper, regardless of whether you are the home or away team. Your jumper is mostly white and having white shorts contrasts nicely with the opposition, it also (IMO) looks better than navy shorts (I think hoop designs, if with white, in general look better with white shorts - Imagine Celtic with green shorts). But the main reason why I think you guys should just adopt white shorts full time because it has become more recognisably Geelong over the past few years

All Geelong premierships in my lifetime and anyone under 50 was done in white shorts. The quicker it becomes part of your permanent home kit, the better.

Your 2014 clash jumper would've been great if not for the back. I haven't looked at your fixture but I assume you'll only need it for one game (Norf away), if you don't play Norf away then you won't need to wear it.

In terms of clash jumpers I'd like to see you guys either in a navy jumper with white pinhoops (similar to the Southampton 12/13 home shirt) with navy shorts or an all red jumper with either navy, red or white shorts (I believe whenever possible teams should play on their heritage for clash jumpers as long as it solves the clash. Norf should wear a blue jumper with a white V, Carlton in cream, Richmond in yellow and black hoops etc.) You guys only clash with Norf and Collingwood once common sense prevails and they return to white with black stripes as their main jumper.

Couldn't agree more about white shorts.

Is this what you mean?

 

[Beanstalk]

In terms of clash jumpers I'd like to see you guys either in a navy jumper with white pinhoops (similar to the Southampton 12/13 home shirt)

Just looked up the bolded, I could definitely see (a horizontal version of) that working for the cats.

 

[manboob]

I think a something like the Man U 1999/2000 "change" kit would look OK. But with blue shorts and socks.

I'm also ****ing love the French away kit of 2011-12. Oui Oui.

Team it with white shorts and socks with blue/grey trim and away we go!

 

[manboob]

Or the keeper's kit from that year but with white or silver stripes instead of grey.

 

[Beanstalk]

silver stripes

 

[manboob]

OK this is the last one I promise! This year's.

 

[Willo_]

Couldn't agree more about white shorts.

Is this what you mean?

I disagree with the white shorts.. i have always thought we look better in the blue. At the end of the day that argument all comes down to personal preference I guess

 

[MC Extra Dollop]

Turns out I went too early.

Someone gave the thing a tramp stamp.

That's disappointing.

 

[Scottland2007]

Can't say I'm a fan of the tramp stamp

Also known as the back pussy.

 

[Scottland2007]

Turns out I went too early.

Someone gave the thing a tramp stamp.

So, if the back of the clash jumper gets torn I can say "my back pussys been torn", erm, no thanks.

 

[SJ]

http://mm.afl.com.au/Portals/0/cats_docs/Clean copy of new Constitution.pdf

5. CLUB COLOURS

5.1 Subject to clause 5.2 hereof:

5.1.1 the colours of the Club shall be navy blue and white. The colour “navy
blue” shall be deemed to mean that colour having an identical visual
appearance to the colour designated as Pantone Matching System colour
289C irrespective of the colour composition formula utilised to derive such
colour;

5.1.2 the playing guernsey of the Club for all games designated as home games
or finals games irrespective of playing venue shall be navy blue and white
in colour, having such colours alternately incorporated in an equal number
of hoops each having a depth of approximately six (6) centimetres;

5.1.3 subject further to clauses 5.1.4 and 5.1.5 the playing guernsey of the Club
for games designated as away games shall be navy blue and white in
colour. The content ratio of the colours as a percentage area of the surface
of the guernsey excluding the back panel to which a player’s number is
affixed, shall be such that neither colour shall have a surface area in
content in excess of seventy (70)per cent;

5.1.4 the design of the guernsey in clause 5.1.3 shall incorporate a horizontal
band design forming part of the heritage of the Club; and

5.1.5 where there is a Clash the playing guernsey of the Club will be
predominantly navy blue design with the Club’s registered logo on the front
panel;

http://mm.afl.com.au/Portals/0/cats_docs/Clean copy of new Constitution.pdf

 

[manboob]

No white jumpers then eh

 

[FromDawn2Dark]

Perhaps not, but I promise you, that is the reason why the AFL has told Melbourne that it must have a white clash jumper (even though the white clash creates other issues, with teams like St Kilda). I still think Melbourne's current clash guernsey is perfect for its games against Essendon...so why not have two clash guernseys available to create the best possible distinction, depending on the opponent? I'm positive Essendon is in the same boat and that after their inital stubborn refusal to do anything about a clash, they submitted a red with black sash design...and got knocked back. Adelaide is not allowed to use a yellow clash strip and I believe the same is true for Richmond, who will be getting a proper clash guernsey in 2014, I believe.

It could also be argued that while Collingwood doesn't have a third colour, they have three versions of the black and white stripes, with the Chippendales costumes they've worn in the past against North Melbourne. And to be honest, I think Geelong should look at doing something similar for away games against Collingwood (losing one or two hoops to accentuate the contrast).



I just think that in 2013, besides us wearing our navy shorts a lot more than we had in recent seasons, it seemed like too many clubs had gone back to the away shorts/home guernsey look, in games where they would have worn a clash guernsey in years past. It seemed to be too widespread to me to merely be every team doing it of their own bat.



I think I've got pretty good eyesight. But when I see a game where teams like Carlton/Richmond/Collingwood/Melbourne/Essendon are playing each other and both wearing dark guernseys with one team wearing white shorts, it's frustrating. As I'm sure it is for thousands of people watching on television. Sure I can make out the players, but maybe it takes a split second longer than if one team was wearing a white guernsey (or a range of other colours). Why make things more difficult than they need to be?

I think you're right. The only thing that explains it is the stupid AFL administration. So many of their decisions don't seem to take either the football fans or footballers point of view into consideration. Nothing else explains it. Making decisions on the fly or not putting enough thought into it, like the video review system There is no need to make it more complicated, which is why I like the idea of keeping to traditional colours. But personally I just hope we don't go the way of American sports, where either the home or away team is wearing predominantly white uniforms, with just a bit of their main colours on it.

As for what colour shorts we should wear or what looks better, to me we stand out more against everyone else when we are wearing the white shorts when at home. Except Sydney, we should wear navy blue and they should keep their red shorts.

Not liking the back as much now either, but when I think of a jumper, its the front that comes to mind and not the back, so its not such a big deal. It probably makes the number stand out more now.

 

[Big Tom 2013]

Must say I personally prefer the blue shorts too. Have a feeling we win big games more often when in white, so they are fine by me. Don't mind the new clash jumper (minus the tramp stamp) either.

 

[Commando]

It is a clash guernsey.

There is a big difference between this:

and this:

This clash pictured is heaps better

 

[CatAttack84]

This is the first clash guernsey I've truly liked. Passes the 'six year old could draw it'/'grandma could knit it' rules and achieves its purpose.

I called for this kind of design as soon as I saw this year's members guernsey. About bloody time, basic simple, and close enough to resemble it's Geelong, but different enough.

 

[SJ]

I called for this kind of design as soon as I saw this year's members guernsey. About bloody time, basic simple, and close enough to resemble it's Geelong, but different enough.

Except it has been butchered at the back.