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[Pres]

LIV next year will be in February. Aus golf needs to structure their schedule around that - offer ranking points and some of the LIV guys will come early and play the Aus Open etc.

What schedule?

 

[QuietB]

What schedule?

PGA and Aus Open is about all there is left. They were in late November last year - move them to Feb to coincide with LIV.

 

[greatwhiteshark]

PGA and Aus Open is about all there is left. They were in late November last year - move them to Feb to coincide with LIV.

They are both part of the DP world tour, nothing will change until the Australian PGA disconnects with the DP world tour. LIV is still the enemy unfortunately.

 

[QuietB]

You really need a history lesson. Palmer Player, Nicklaus Thomson, etc etc. all played Aussie Opens together through around 65-75.


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Since you are giving history lessons name another Australian tournament with 13 individual major winners.

 

[greatwhiteshark]

Since you are giving history lessons name another Australian tournament with 13 individual major winners.

Maybe only the presidents cup had a better field than LIV.

 

[Pres]

PGA and Aus Open is about all there is left. They were in late November last year - move them to Feb to coincide with LIV.

EFA

 

[QuietB]

Maybe only the presidents cup had a better field than LIV.

Absolutely it did - forgot about that

Although only 9 major winners but the field is only 16 so....

 

[sideswipe]

Since you are giving history lessons name another Australian tournament with 13 individual major winners.

Really? That's your measure? I'd say the 78 field noted above containing players who were soon to win a major is a much stronger field than the majority of LIV major winners who are well past their best.

Suggesting the LIV field was superior to say the 60s/70s Aus opens which contained Nicklaus, Palmer, Player, Thomson, Nagle is simply nonsense.

 

[QuietB]

Really? That's your measure? I'd say the 78 field noted above containing players who were soon to win a major is a much stronger field than the majority of LIV major winners who are well past their best.

Suggesting the LIV field was superior to say the 60s/70s Aus opens which contained Nicklaus, Palmer, Player, Thomson, Nagle is simply nonsense.

Well I don't have a Time Machine to go back to the 1978 Aus Open, so the LIV Adelaide field is easily the best field I can get anywhere near.

 

[greatwhiteshark]

Really? That's your measure? I'd say the 78 field noted above containing players who were soon to win a major is a much stronger field than the majority of LIV major winners who are well past their best.

Suggesting the LIV field was superior to say the 60s/70s Aus opens which contained Nicklaus, Palmer, Player, Thomson, Nagle is simply nonsense.

78 Aussie open field/results (Names of note in bold.)

1978 Australian Open, The Australian Golf Club, 16-19 November
1 J Nicklaus 73 66 74 71 284 2 B Crenshaw 71 72 74 73 290 3 B Lietzke 74 73 70 76 293 4 G Marsh 67 79 76 73 295 5 L Hinkle 72 79 75 70 296 6 E Sneed 74 73 76 74 297 J Heard 70 78 77 72 D Galloway 71 77 77 72 B Devlin 69 78 77 73 J Pate 74 71 79 73 11 E Ball 75 76 77 70 298 D Graham 73 73 79 73 13 M Ballesteros 76 70 79 74 299 M Barber 72 77 76 74 P Thomson 73 74 78 74 T Kite 75 69 77 78 17 * A Gresham 73 78 77 72 300 H Underwood 72 75 80 73 R Byman 72 71 81 76 G Norman 76 71 76 77 21 M Bembridge 75 76 80 70 301 R Wadkins 80 74 75 72 E Dunk 75 77 75 74 L Graham 73 74 78 76 G Hamilton 78 76 70 77 26 J Newton 76 74 79 73 302 T Linskey 74 77 77 74 B Burgess 73 72 82 75 M Krantz 73 73 79 77 R Davis 73 75 79 75 W Rogers 71 75 78 78 32 J Hall 79 74 76 74 303 P Headland 81 73 74 75 S Reese 75 75 77 76 M Lue 75 73 79 76 36 J Lister 74 74 76 80 304 37 A Bean 78 74 79 74 305 R Risch 76 72 80 77 T Gale 75 76 76 78 40 T Gilmore 79 71 85 71 306 G Parslow 77 77 79 73 E Stirling 74 78 79 75 B Vivian 75 77 79 75 G Wolstenholme 73 78 79 76 L Roberts 74 80 76 76 A Russell 78 75 75 78 T Kendall 74 77 76 79 48 R McNaughton 77 76 78 76 307 N Faldo 80 73 77 77 V Somers 73 77 78 79 K Roberts 70 80 78 79 R Lee 77 75 73 82 53 P Beames 72 79 80 77 308 G Serhan 77 74 80 77 J Benda 75 75 81 77 P Dawson 78 73 78 79 57 M Cahill 76 76 79 78 309 I Stanley 72 73 82 82 R Shaw 75 76 76 82 60 R L'Estrange 77 77 81 75 310 R Vines 78 76 79 77 D Simon 80 73 76 81 J McGee 77 76 74 83

 

[sideswipe]

78 Aussie open field/results (Names of note in bold.)

1978 Australian Open, The Australian Golf Club, 16-19 November
1 J Nicklaus 73 66 74 71 284 2 B Crenshaw 71 72 74 73 290 3 B Lietzke 74 73 70 76 293 4 G Marsh 67 79 76 73 295 5 L Hinkle 72 79 75 70 296 6 E Sneed 74 73 76 74 297 J Heard 70 78 77 72 D Galloway 71 77 77 72 B Devlin 69 78 77 73 J Pate 74 71 79 73 11 E Ball 75 76 77 70 298 D Graham 73 73 79 73 13 M Ballesteros 76 70 79 74 299 M Barber 72 77 76 74 P Thomson 73 74 78 74 T Kite 75 69 77 78 17 * A Gresham 73 78 77 72 300 H Underwood 72 75 80 73 R Byman 72 71 81 76 G Norman 76 71 76 77 21 M Bembridge 75 76 80 70 301 R Wadkins 80 74 75 72 E Dunk 75 77 75 74 L Graham 73 74 78 76 G Hamilton 78 76 70 77 26 J Newton 76 74 79 73 302 T Linskey 74 77 77 74 B Burgess 73 72 82 75 M Krantz 73 73 79 77 R Davis 73 75 79 75 W Rogers 71 75 78 78 32 J Hall 79 74 76 74 303 P Headland 81 73 74 75 S Reese 75 75 77 76 M Lue 75 73 79 76 36 J Lister 74 74 76 80 304 37 A Bean 78 74 79 74 305 R Risch 76 72 80 77 T Gale 75 76 76 78 40 T Gilmore 79 71 85 71 306 G Parslow 77 77 79 73 E Stirling 74 78 79 75 B Vivian 75 77 79 75 G Wolstenholme 73 78 79 76 L Roberts 74 80 76 76 A Russell 78 75 75 78 T Kendall 74 77 76 79 48 R McNaughton 77 76 78 76 307 N Faldo 80 73 77 77 V Somers 73 77 78 79 K Roberts 70 80 78 79 R Lee 77 75 73 82 53 P Beames 72 79 80 77 308 G Serhan 77 74 80 77 J Benda 75 75 81 77 P Dawson 78 73 78 79 57 M Cahill 76 76 79 78 309 I Stanley 72 73 82 82 R Shaw 75 76 76 82 60 R L'Estrange 77 77 81 75 310 R Vines 78 76 79 77 D Simon 80 73 76 81 J McGee 77 76 74 83

The 2011 Oz Open field was very strong as well.

 

[sideswipe]

Well I don't have a Time Machine to go back to the 1978 Aus Open, so the LIV Adelaide field is easily the best field I can get anywhere near.

That's a separate question isn't it? Hopefully the Oz Open will regain some of its relevance and the 28 Presidents Cup at KH should be pretty awesome - if the LIV guys can play in it by then.

 

[greatwhiteshark]

That's a separate question isn't it? Hopefully the Oz Open will regain some of its relevance and the 28 Presidents Cup at KH should be pretty awesome - if the LIV guys can play in it by then.

What field has been the strongest might be up for debate but the people have spoken in Australia and they want to watch top level golf which LIV provides them. And they have latched on to it pretty firmly.

 

[sideswipe]

What field has been the strongest might be up for debate but the people have spoken in Australia and they want to watch top level golf which LIV provides them. And they have latched on to it pretty firmly.

I'd say what is also up for debate is how much of that crowd was wanting to watch "top level golf" or just get on the pi55 at a big event in a town that doesn't see much.

 

[greatwhiteshark]

I'd say what is also up for debate is how much of that crowd was wanting to watch "top level golf" or just get on the pi55 at a big event in a town that doesn't see much.

That will be the case at every golf event, they all have corporate venues at them, they don't all have watering holes which does encourage the madness but they do all have VIP tents.

 

[Pres]

To be clear there are five institutions that are prepared to sponsor golf tournaments in Australia:

1. Saudi Arabia government
2. South Australian state government
3. Victorian state government
4. NSW state government
5. QLD state government

And to a lesser extent ISPS Handa.

There is simply not the money available to bring a PGA Tour stop out to Australia. It's a waste of time talking about it.

 

[peternorth]

Anyone know where the next Australian Open will be held? It is in November this year and nothing has been said.

 

[sideswipe]

To be clear there are five institutions that are prepared to sponsor golf tournaments in Australia:

1. Saudi Arabia government
2. South Australian state government
3. Victorian state government
4. NSW state government
5. QLD state government

And to a lesser extent ISPS Handa.

There is simply not the money available to bring a PGA Tour stop out to Australia. It's a waste of time talking about it.

Things might change. To my uninformed mind,the current bloated prizemoney pools are unsustainable - both at the PGAT and LIV.

Who knows what the professional golf world will look like a few years from now?

In hindsight, we should have gotten on board with the DP World Tour, like South Africa did. Maybe we still will.

 

[sideswipe]

Scheffler out of the Wells Fargo. Will be going into the PGA on three weeks of no golf and hopefully a nice healthy newborn bub. Gives everyone else a bit of a chance.

 

[Woody15]

Scheffler out of the Wells Fargo. Will be going into the PGA on three weeks of no golf and hopefully a nice healthy newborn bub. Gives everyone else a bit of a chance.

Well Talor Gooch is now part of the PGA field so at least the asterisk will be removed from that Major.

 

[sideswipe]

Well Talor Gooch is now part of the PGA field so at least the asterisk will be removed from that Major.

Never an asterisk when Michael Block is playing.

 

[Woody15]

Never an asterisk when Michael Block is playing.

You've just reminded me we have to put up with this block party bullshit again.

I can see the headlines already.. "Block party over"

It would be glorious if Gooch won it and having to answer all those questions about the asterisk. It'd be glorious f he missed the cut also.

Well played PGA.

 

[greatwhiteshark]

You've just reminded me we have to put up with this block party bullshit again.

I can see the headlines already.. "Block party over"

It would be glorious if Gooch won it and having to answer all those questions about the asterisk. It'd be glorious f he missed the cut also.

Well played PGA.

Doesn't seem to have a filter Taylor. Sometimes you just have to shut up and let your game do the talking. He can play but he has now put added pressure on himself that he never needed to do.
Hope he does well but he has surely set himself up to fail also.

 

[sideswipe]

Doesn't seem to have a filter Taylor. Sometimes you just have to shut up and let your game do the talking. He can play but he has now put added pressure on himself that he never needed to do.
Hope he does well but he has surely set himself up to fail also.

I would contest the idea that Talor can play. His PGAT career was fair to middling. One win at the RSM and never made top 10 at a major. A little weak that he won’t go to US Open qualifiers unlike other LIV players.

He also appears to be extremely stupid. He effectively joined LIV by accident after teeing it up at an event thinking he could go back and play on the PGA Tpur.


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[greatwhiteshark]

I would contest the idea that Talor can play. His PGAT career was fair to middling. One win at the RSM and never made top 10 at a major. A little weak that he won’t go to US Open qualifiers unlike other LIV players.

He also appears to be extremely stupid. He effectively joined LIV by accident after teeing it up at an event thinking he could go back and play on the PGA Tpur.


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Fair points, but he is only early 30's so reasonably young in golf terms. But he better get on with it if he wants to make a name for himself.
Agree its stupid to not try and qualify for US Open. Guess he is now hoping for a top 10 finish at the PGA, highly unlikely though based on his history.
When I say he can play I was not saying he is the best player in the world, but he is easily a top 100 player in the world and that means you can play in my world. In fact any pro golfer can play.