List Mgmt. Welcome to Geelong, Tanner Bruhn

[Vivy]

Love his progression. Getting better incrementally over time which for mine is a really good sign.

Has the physical tools to work with and cracks in very hard. Really growing on me.

 

[Catsace]

I’d give up our round 1 for Bailey Scott
I know he chose North over us but the kid can play

He'd need to be de-norfed. It's beyond comprehension the difference between our two clubs when you consider that Bailey has played in 75 losses in his 85 game career, and Mitch Duncan has played in 77 defeats in his 280 game career. But if he wanted out of norf to join Geelong, I reckon he'd be more a 2nd rounder, perhaps at worst a Sav/OH level pick.

 

[calder_daddy]

He'd need to be de-norfed. It's beyond comprehension the difference between our two clubs when you consider that Bailey has played in 75 losses in his 85 game career, and Mitch Duncan has played in 77 defeats in his 280 game career. But if he wanted out of norf to join Geelong, I reckon he'd be more a 2nd rounder, perhaps at worst a Sav/OH level pick.

I do agree now a first is a stretch for Bailey and a 2nd is more than fair
I got that one wrong

 

[Warhorse]

How many of the other players from other clubs have had 30 disposals from the same amount of game time.
I’ll guess it’s the same answer to your question.
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Maybe he is on the Gary Ablett Jnr path - pretty sure he didn't hit 30 touches until close to 100 games

 

[Mr Meow]

Maybe he is on the Gary Ablett Jnr path - pretty sure he didn't hit 30 touches until close to 100 games

It's all pointless speculation until Scott starts playing midfielders with 80% game time or more. There's no indication that is on the cards right now. While we roll an extra couple of mids through there and they all go at 60-65% you are basically never going to get 30 touch games.

Ah well, we can console ourselves with wins in the meantime. The Bulldogs and Port are good clubs if you just want to count a couple of top line midfielders disposal numbers every week.

 

[calder_daddy]

Maybe he is on the Gary Ablett Jnr path - pretty sure he didn't hit 30 touches until close to 100 games

 

[Warhorse]

I do agree now a first is a stretch for Bailey and a 2nd is more than fair
I got that one wrong

Bailey is on a high wage at North. Wouldn't fit our wage structure

 

[calder_daddy]

Bailey is on a high wage at North. Wouldn't fit our wage structure

Could’ve said the same about Bowes

 

[Mangy Carl]

Anyone who watches Geelong games can absolutely tell Bruhn is an absolute JET. Tough, great vision, excellent disposal both sides of the body, great pace and agility with a brilliant shimmy/hot-step/side-step out of trouble..

The only reason he does not get more hype is due to his gametime management..
The AFL community would all be taking him up as having a 'breakout' season, if he were playing 25% more gametime and averaging 25% more disposals..

Some other Mids from the 2020 draft - For comparison.

Errol Gulden - A gun, everyone agrees. Was offered a 10 year contract by opposition clubs.
This season, averaging 25.6 possessions from 90.9% game time. Equivalent to Bruhn 29.3 possessions if he played 90.9% game time.
Max Holmes - 23.6 possessions from 82.1% game time, Bruhn equivalent 26.46
Tom Powell - 21.9, 81.1% - Bruhn 26.14 equiv
Archie Perkins - 20.3, 70.2% - Bruhn 22.62.
Elijah Hollands - 14.8, 75.5% - Bruhn 24.4

Bang for buck - Outpacing all of them..

Some other mids from 2020 -

Braeden Campbell
Will Philips
Luke Pedlar
Heath Chapman
Conor Stone
Finley McRae
Bailey Laurie
Reef McInness


I want to see the coaches let him loose for a 90% game..

 

[Warhorse]

Can we put the Bruhn is better than Warner nonsense to bed. Warner has kicked 19 goals for the year for a start. No amount of extrapolating the stats will close the gap between the two.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Can we put the Bruhn is better than Warner nonsense to bed. Warner has kicked 19 goals for the year for a start. No amount of extrapolating the stats will close the gap between the two.

Pretty sure it was in bed well and truly before you brought it up but hey, why not dig it up again hey?

 

[Mr Meow]

Pretty sure it was in bed well and truly before you brought it up but hey, why not dig it up again hey?

I am also sick and tired of the persistent myth that Bruhn is currently playing better than both Ablett Junior and Senior at their respective peaks, and should be leading the Brownlow/Coleman/Norm Smith by now if not for some bad luck.

With such low hanging fruit the central aim of Horsey's arguments, in zoological terms he would be a mouse rather than a giraffe.

 

[catempire]

Can we put the Bruhn is better than Warner nonsense to bed. Warner has kicked 19 goals for the year for a start. No amount of extrapolating the stats will close the gap between the two.

Something should be put to bed alright.

 

[Kobe Gryant]

 

[Ricky Vaughn]

This stat relating to Tanner absolutely blew my mind. He only spends, on average, 60.8% of time on the ground.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Could’ve said the same about Bowes

Can we though? His contract was smoothed out to around 500k a season. The newest CBA has an AFL average wage of 450k last year and will be 550k by the end of it in 2027.

 

[Cosmic Energy]

This stat relating to Tanner absolutely blew my mind. He only spends, on average, 60.8% of time on the ground.

Good stat, just looking at the usual leading mids they are low 80%.

 

[calder_daddy]

Can we though? His contract was smoothed out to around 500k a season. The newest CBA has an AFL average wage of 450k last year and will be 550k by the end of it in 2027.

That’s my point
Bowes was on too much money and we made it work with a added year or so

 

[calder_daddy]

Can we put the Bruhn is better than Warner nonsense to bed. Warner has kicked 19 goals for the year for a start. No amount of extrapolating the stats will close the gap between the two.

You need another hobby
This is becoming sad

 

[Warhorse]

Good stat, just looking at the usual leading mids they are low 80%.

Just extrapolate his stats to 80%. Same thing

 

[Mr Meow]

Just extrapolate his stats to 80%. Same thing

Do you think a player getting 20 disposals in 60% game time is better or worse than one getting 21 disposals in 90% game time?

Is a sub appearance with 7 disposals better or worse than a player with 65% game time getting 7 disposals?

 

[Warhorse]

Do you think a player getting 20 disposals in 60% game time is better or worse than one getting 21 disposals in 90% game time?

Is a sub appearance with 7 disposals better or worse than a player with 65% game time getting 7 disposals?

I dont think Bruhn riding the pine when the heat is on should be celebrated. Bruhn averages less than 18 disposals but we should definitely round up to make his numbers sound better. Is Bruhn still as good as Warner?

 

[Mr Meow]

I dont think Bruhn riding the pine when the heat is on should be celebrated. Bruhn averages less than 18 disposals but we should definitely round up to make his numbers sound better. Is Bruhn still as good as Warner?

It shouldn't be celebrated OR used to bash him over the head. Scott has basically been doing it with ALL midfielders for 3 years. "18 disposals a game" IS different when comparing a 60% game time to 85% game time player - that much is common sense.

You're stuck in strawman land with Warner (not my opinion anyway) because of one poster's stats extrapolation. Take it up with them, not the rest of us. And stats are only one side of the story anyway, Warner has more impact per disposal. He is arguably the form player of the competition.

Bruhn was fine until the Melbourne game, where he was poor and then injured. So he had two terrible games statistically (as his return game was a shocker), which is why you're back to harping on 18 a game but were deadly quiet when it was 20 until then through our entire winning streak. So you DID seem to accept that 20 odd disposals from 63% game time was okay, while 18 is not.

 

[Mr Meow]

Warhorse want my opinion on Bruhn's output this season? Feel free to disagree.

A 22 year old in his 20th-30th odd games for the club:

-Rounds 1-7: Getting 20 disposals per game, plenty of clearances/tackles/pressure acts and improving ball use from 63% game time is fine.
-Rounds 8 and 10: Getting 9 disposals off 40% game time and 11 disposals from 63% game time, while also failing to pressure/tackle/clear the ball well is not fine.

Let me guess, to you they are identical situations. But that doesn't explain why you have just started crowing again really loudly after begrudgingly admitting he was doing okay before then.

 

[Footy Smarts]

I think Bruhn has been one of our bigger bright spots this year. His first 6 games were good.

They weren't dominant but he was at least solid in every game. He was also being asked to play as basically our number 1 mid while Danger was out which is a lot to expect of a 21 year old. His transition running and kicking are light years ahead of this time last year so he's shown the ability to work on his game and improve. And he's got a well rounded game with a good defensive side to complement the ability to burst from stoppage and be damaging by foot. You can certainly see the ingredients of a very good player.

The biggest worry is his body letting him down. He had shoulder issues most of last year and has them again now. Injured against Melbourne then a poor game on return against Gold Coast (to be fair I still think he was cleaner and defended better than most of our mids which is not saying much).

We'll see how he goes from here but when fit he's clearly one of our best mids and how he develops from here will have a huge impact on our next 10 years.