Trade period / National Draft 2024

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[TheOptimum18]

what was schultz to Collingwood traded for?? last year

Collingwood R1 (2024) + Pick 34

 

[THE THIN MAN]

I'd take Perryman in a heartbeat. Absolute gun but a bit injury prone. Don't know if you would bother picking up a Hayward type in the situation we are in. He seems more of an Essendon type player. Cumming is interesting but we have similar types on the list so probably not.

That's all we need another injury prone player!

 

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STANDOUT PERFORMERS​

Levi Ashcroft
29 disposals, 4 marks, 6 clearances, 3 tackles
Won the medal as the most influential player on the ground for the AFL Academy side. Played onball for most of the match and was clean in the thick of the action, while also generating some run and link-up play.
Josh Smillie
27 disposals, 4 marks
The potential No.1 draft pick started in the midfield before spending time across half-forward and half-back as the onballers were rotated around. Missed a couple of early chances in front of goal, but was able to show off his booming kick at times as well as his size and strength as he shrugged off some tackling attempts from VFL opponents.
Jagga Smith
22 disposals, 5 marks, 3 clearances, 1 goal
Played more midfield minutes and impressed with his speed and agility around contest. He spun out of trouble to launch a kick inside-50 and set up a Jobe Shanahan goal during the second quarter. Also took some nice marks, hit some look-away handballs and kicked a third-quarter goal when he worked into space over the back of the Footscray defence in the third quarter.
Luke Trainor
21 disposals, 4 marks, 8 rebound-50s, 1 goal
The 194cm intercept defender was best-on-ground for the AFL Academy in their first match a fortnight ago and again shone brightly. He took two nice intercept marks in the opening minutes of the match and was clean and composed as he provide some rebound out of the back half. He showed good body work in one-on-one contests against bigger and stronger opponents and kicked a goal from long-range in the second quarter after being the recipient of a 50m penalty.
Bo Allan
10 disposals, 4 marks, 2 rebound-50s
The West Australian missed the first AFL Academy game with a foot injury but had some nice moments. Played the game in defence, which wasn’t an easy spot to be with some of the ball that was coming forward from Footscray. However, Allan battled well in one-on-one contests and made some nice intercepts.
Tobie Travaglia
14 disposals, 3 marks, 1 rebound-50
The Bendigo Pioneers product was called up as an injury replacement player for a second time, covering for Harry O’Farrell who missed with a calf complaint. Like Allan, the 187cm defender did his best against a flood of opposition inside-50s. Travaglia made a costly turnover by foot in the opening quarter which resulted directly in a Footscray goal, but redeemed himself after that as he competed well, applied some good pressure and won some intercepts.

OTHERS KEY NOTES​

• Carlton’s father-son pair of Ben and Lucas Camporeale were a little less influential than the first AFL Academy game against Coburg. Ben had 16 disposals playing largely across half-back, while Lucas spent time on a wing and recorded seven touches.
• Adelaide father-son prospect Tyler Welsh made the most of limited opportunities forward, with his overhead marking on the lead and a bullet pass inside-50 being highlights of his game. He finished with eight disposals, five marks and one goal.
• Top-three draft prospect Finn O’Sullivan played just his third game of the year, having missed a chunk of football with a fractured thumb. He started onball and won two clearances in the opening quarter, while also applying some great pressure on opponents throughout the day. However, he didn’t have a huge say on proceedings, finishing with 13 disposals and three marks.
• Gun onballer Sam Lalor showed his strength and power at stages in just his second game this year following a delayed start with groin issues. While appearing underdone, he spent time through the midfield and forward and gathered eight disposals (six contested possessions), four marks and four tackles, along with slotting a set shot goal in the second quarter.
• Gold Coast Suns Academy ace Leonardo Lombard had a quieter match than his first outing for the AFL Academy side. However, he had less midfield opportunity, instead spending significant time forward. Lombard had only 11 disposals, but did impress with his pressure at the attacking end and laid four tackles.
• West Australian Basil Hart received a late call-up as an injury replacement player, covering for Joel Cochran who had a knee issue. Hart is a bottom-age player who is not eligible to be drafted until next year and only had a brief run in the last quarter as top-age players were prioritised for game time.

Just on Sam Lalor, in his return to footy after an injury layoff, he had 19 disposals 10 contested 5 tackles & 7.3 for Geelong Grammar.

 

[TigerPaul71]

Collingwood R1 (2024) + Pick 34

Would think Baker worth more than that ??

 

[Meteoric Rise]

STANDOUT PERFORMERS​

Levi Ashcroft
29 disposals, 4 marks, 6 clearances, 3 tackles
Won the medal as the most influential player on the ground for the AFL Academy side. Played onball for most of the match and was clean in the thick of the action, while also generating some run and link-up play.
Josh Smillie
27 disposals, 4 marks
The potential No.1 draft pick started in the midfield before spending time across half-forward and half-back as the onballers were rotated around. Missed a couple of early chances in front of goal, but was able to show off his booming kick at times as well as his size and strength as he shrugged off some tackling attempts from VFL opponents.
Jagga Smith
22 disposals, 5 marks, 3 clearances, 1 goal
Played more midfield minutes and impressed with his speed and agility around contest. He spun out of trouble to launch a kick inside-50 and set up a Jobe Shanahan goal during the second quarter. Also took some nice marks, hit some look-away handballs and kicked a third-quarter goal when he worked into space over the back of the Footscray defence in the third quarter.
Luke Trainor
21 disposals, 4 marks, 8 rebound-50s, 1 goal
The 194cm intercept defender was best-on-ground for the AFL Academy in their first match a fortnight ago and again shone brightly. He took two nice intercept marks in the opening minutes of the match and was clean and composed as he provide some rebound out of the back half. He showed good body work in one-on-one contests against bigger and stronger opponents and kicked a goal from long-range in the second quarter after being the recipient of a 50m penalty.
Bo Allan
10 disposals, 4 marks, 2 rebound-50s
The West Australian missed the first AFL Academy game with a foot injury but had some nice moments. Played the game in defence, which wasn’t an easy spot to be with some of the ball that was coming forward from Footscray. However, Allan battled well in one-on-one contests and made some nice intercepts.
Tobie Travaglia
14 disposals, 3 marks, 1 rebound-50
The Bendigo Pioneers product was called up as an injury replacement player for a second time, covering for Harry O’Farrell who missed with a calf complaint. Like Allan, the 187cm defender did his best against a flood of opposition inside-50s. Travaglia made a costly turnover by foot in the opening quarter which resulted directly in a Footscray goal, but redeemed himself after that as he competed well, applied some good pressure and won some intercepts.

OTHERS KEY NOTES​

• Carlton’s father-son pair of Ben and Lucas Camporeale were a little less influential than the first AFL Academy game against Coburg. Ben had 16 disposals playing largely across half-back, while Lucas spent time on a wing and recorded seven touches.
• Adelaide father-son prospect Tyler Welsh made the most of limited opportunities forward, with his overhead marking on the lead and a bullet pass inside-50 being highlights of his game. He finished with eight disposals, five marks and one goal.
• Top-three draft prospect Finn O’Sullivan played just his third game of the year, having missed a chunk of football with a fractured thumb. He started onball and won two clearances in the opening quarter, while also applying some great pressure on opponents throughout the day. However, he didn’t have a huge say on proceedings, finishing with 13 disposals and three marks.
• Gun onballer Sam Lalor showed his strength and power at stages in just his second game this year following a delayed start with groin issues. While appearing underdone, he spent time through the midfield and forward and gathered eight disposals (six contested possessions), four marks and four tackles, along with slotting a set shot goal in the second quarter.
• Gold Coast Suns Academy ace Leonardo Lombard had a quieter match than his first outing for the AFL Academy side. However, he had less midfield opportunity, instead spending significant time forward. Lombard had only 11 disposals, but did impress with his pressure at the attacking end and laid four tackles.
• West Australian Basil Hart received a late call-up as an injury replacement player, covering for Joel Cochran who had a knee issue. Hart is a bottom-age player who is not eligible to be drafted until next year and only had a brief run in the last quarter as top-age players were prioritised for game time.

Just on Sam Lalor, in his return to footy after an injury layoff, he had 19 disposals 10 contested 5 tackles & 7.3 for Geelong Grammar.

Last time we recruited from Geelong Grammar Octa Wilson and Graeme Richmond steered us to 5 flags in 14 years.

 

[noobermensch]

After a month off with a thumb injury Finn O'Sullivan clearly struggled to pick up the pace of the game, but when he did find the footy he oozed class as always. During his injury absence guys like Smillie and Trainor have put their hand up as pick 1 contenders, but for me O'Sullivan is still that guy.

 

[guruisatiger]

Collingwood R1 (2024) + Pick 34

Where does pick 34 come from??

 

[JAKLAUGHING]

After a month off with a thumb injury Finn O'Sullivan clearly struggled to pick up the pace of the game, but when he did find the footy he oozed class as always. During his injury absence guys like Smillie and Trainor have put their hand up as pick 1 contenders, but for me O'Sullivan is still that guy.

Not bad at all! Always presenting...very confident player! Takes a very good grab! Good kick! Awareness like a young Cotch!

 

[RJK Tiger]

Yeah I don’t blame the umps specifically either

The afl have created such a convoluted set of rules with grey areas that almost in any bit of play you could technically call a free kick that could go to either side

It’s impossible to officiate consistently in a framework that relies so heavily on an individual’s interpretation, it doesn’t help that players are constantly trying to fool umpires as well but that is just also a symptom of the framework

Yeah its hard to really know if its all by design or effect tho.

Have the AFL ruined the rules that has lead to inconsistent umpiring, or, have they messed with the rules to ensure people will accept inconsistent rulings to allow for influenced results that work best for the AFL, viewership, narratives etc.

At this point, i think its the latter. There is no way we can get the calls we do for 4 years and a team like Geelong can avoid it for a decade. It stinks.

 

[Ctl]

Smilie is probably north bound, given their small midfield and likely loss of Zurhaar and LDU in the next 2 years

 

[bc27]

If we miss out on a top 3 pick and are not able to take Smillie, O’Sullivan or Smith then taking Luke Trainor and adding him to Gibcus and Brown down back would mean we’ve locked in our backline key positions for the next 10 years.

 

[beema limapep]

Who cares what his position is !!
He is a 3x premiership player thats vice captain and being offered $850k+ a year
Your being silly by under playing Bakers value

And he can play small forward, mid, wing, back. And he is in peak form.

 

[TheOptimum18]

Where does pick 34 come from??

Collingwood had pick 34 (from Carlton in a pick swap in 2022) for last season's draft, and traded it to Freo in the trade. Freo traded it to us for Pick 35 (pick 34 pushed back to 38, and we also received Freo's 3rd round pick this season), which we then traded it to WCE for pick 40 (McAuliffe) as well as WCE round 3 pick this season.

 

[Profop]

If Brisbane keep going s**t I’m thinking our trade with them may be less about giving them points for Ashcroft but more seeing what they’re willing to give up to try and get in front of the Ashcroft bid

 

[THE_GUN]

If Brisbane keep going s**t I’m thinking our trade with them may be less about giving them points for Ashcroft but more seeing what they’re willing to give up to try and get in front of the Ashcroft bid

Very good chance the Ashcroft kid goes to 5 and apart from their 2025 1st rounder they really have nothing more to give up

 

[noobermensch]

Another strong performance from Trainor in the second of the Academy games although not quite at the BOG standard of game 1. He and his defensive cohort struggled at times with the size and marking power of the Footscray forwards, and his normally strong disposal was at times a little wayward.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Greetings campaigners, I come in peace.

Just checking in for my annual Cumbo report, everyone still puzzled as to why tf he's not getting games or have there been some answers come along over the last 12 months that outsiders wouldn't know about?

Still desperate for some small forwards at the Blues and he's a more natural threat than anyone we've got, but he's up to 3 or 4 coaches now who haven't seen him as b22 for whatever reason?

Any info would be appreciated, wish u the best for the rest of the season, I've enjoyed the endeavor under Yze so far.

 

[guruisatiger]

Collingwood had pick 34 (from Carlton in a pick swap in 2022) for last season's draft, and traded it to Freo in the trade. Freo traded it to us for Pick 35 (pick 34 pushed back to 38, and we also received Freo's 3rd round pick this season), which we then traded it to WCE for pick 40 (McAuliffe) as well as WCE round 3 pick this season.

We have freo second round pick tied to Fremantle
If all teams finish the same as last year we
Have pick 25 and 26

 

[Drunken Wookie]

Greetings campaigners, I come in peace.

Just checking in for my annual Cumbo report, everyone still puzzled as to why tf he's not getting games or have there been some answers come along over the last 12 months that outsiders wouldn't know about?

Still desperate for some small forwards at the Blues and he's a more natural threat than anyone we've got, but he's up to 3 or 4 coaches now who haven't seen him as b22 for whatever reason?

Any info would be appreciated, wish u the best for the rest of the season, I've enjoyed the endeavor under Yze so far.

the current theory is he's s**t.
it's the only thing that makes sense.
we're all terrible judges of a players abilities and/or potential and we need to accept that we got this one wrong and continue to get it wrong because there's something wrong with our brains.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

the current theory is he's s**t.
it's the only thing that makes sense.
we're all terrible judges of a players abilities and/or potential and we need to accept that we got this one wrong and continue to get it wrong because there's something wrong with our brains.

So still as confused as always. Just went back and watched a few of his best games highlights... Complete freak when he's on song.

Just doesn't make any sense to me how he can't get a game

 

[juss]

I'm very much warming to Trainor with our first pick, as it's not likely to be pick 1.

Gibcus and Trainer as our 2 main KPDs means Young/Miller can fight it out to play on the second/third tall types.

It would leave Balta as a KPF/2nd ruck and then you can FA a gun 26/27 year old KPF to play for 5 years once Lynch retires.

Spine in 2026 and beyond then looks something like

FB: Gibcus
CHB: Trainor
C: Taranto
CHF: Balta
FF: FA*

 

[THE_GUN]

So still as confused as always. Just went back and watched a few of his best games highlights... Complete freak when he's on song.

Just doesn't make any sense to me how he can't get a game

I will drive him over to princess hill

Yes he is a freak and will fit perfectly at Carlton and become the next Tyson Stengle

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

I will drive him over to princess hill

Yes he is a freak and will fit perfectly at Carlton and become the next Tyson Stengle

Cant tell if sarcasm or just desperate to see him get a go?

 

[THE_GUN]

Cant tell if sarcasm or just desperate to see him get a go?

He is the next Dusty but our coach just doesnt see it and neither did the 2 other dumb coaches before him

 

[wegetpumped]

Cant tell if sarcasm or just desperate to see him get a go?

He was at his best when we had some quality up forward and freakish. As the quality ran out people expected him to be the shining armor. In the VFL we are even worse quality-wise and the guy is supposed to do miracles. He has lost all confidence in the way been treated and would blossom in a side like yours and I dare say would be a 3 to 4-goal game player. Even Collingwood might be unbeatable with him up there.