Strategy This years Grand Final in 2020 should be in Wagga Wagga if no crowd can attend!!!

[Mr Magic]

I agree with Malthouse, if there is no crowd may as well be in outside of Victoria in Wagga Wagga, cheap and can be great for promoting the game and pushing the Aussie Rules tsunami north and further abroad. This signals a breaking down of the barriers of expansion and promotes Aussie Rules to everybody anywhere in the world.

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I think you might be able to get extra lights on the towers to make it adequate for a night broadcast to from the council from support from regional benefits with deputy the Prime Minister's support if it suits TV broadcasters. Might even not be a bad option for a independent night broadcast test case without the direct comparison to traditional anchor timeslot at the 'G'. I do not think the Murrumbidgee area, which must be similar to the size of Victoria, has had a new virus case for well over a week and not many cases at all that are dwindling. There might be two remaining in Wagga or less at the moment?

Not to far from Australia's major population centres either in Sydney and Melbourne to and last years grand finalists have already had a preview with GWS not minding the familiarity I am sure!!

I was thinking if it was GWS and Richmond both could have parades in Sydney and Melbourne respectively but without the crowds may as well be Wagga with the defence protecting them and broadcasters streaming into fans on the TV channels. Anzac Parades could give us a few ideas what to do with isolation spacing

 

[mike123]

The biggest issue would be camera angles for TV

 

[Mr Magic]

The biggest issue would be camera angles for TV

Did anyone see the pre-season GWS Richmond match? What was that like on TV??

Still that could be adjusted. Plenty of room to create different viewing spots.

Theres a couple of big cranes in the town at the moment. One for the new hospital, another for a bridge so they could hold a viewing platform up and move them around

 

[DarwinRoo]

What’s the point of playing a game in a country area if people can’t attend?

 

[Mr Magic]

What’s the point of playing a game in a country area if people can’t attend?

Because they can't attend.

Thats the point. Crowd attendance is no longer relevant, what becomes relevant is the visual product and entertainment value on the screen seen by your remote audience including visual, sound and imagination, people engrossing in the game itself from the screen and the magnitude of the event celebrating in their own way in their own location. When the game starts it is simply grassroots about the players playing the game with their hearts and minds.

If the crowds could attend obviously have it in the big venues like the MCG

If no crowds is a great opportunity for promotion and expansion and broadcasting to the world something different to capture their hearts and minds. Probably will not happen but its an option to consider.

For example, at Wagga, fireworks could be shot out with plenty of room near the ground, from Bolton park and even from Willans Hill overlooking the ground. You would get some made selfie shots from the outer ground level from the hills hitting the internet if crowds could not attend.

I know people who know the biggest crane mob in the area apart from the two monster big cranes already mentioned. You could try things otherwise not possible in a rigid venue like the MCG.

The RAAF base/airport is 12 minutes away via car. You can have jets and whatever else flyovers in a dusk type scenario in an instant, solo artists could perform above the ground from cranes moving around in the air, people dropped in from the sky. You could have support entertainment not in the ground but next door at bolton park in wider spaces if they really want to get creative like a Olympic ceremony production. They could do their think and within a minute the ball bounces in the middle on the switch. In fact the TV production could switch to entertainment options in all the cities in Australia doing their own thing before the game starts from Melbourne, Sydney, Perth To Darwin, Canberra nearby, Adelaide and the Gold Coast, Brisbane and Tassie. A whole lotta options are possible because the emphasis is on the TV/media production and they can get real creative!!

One could even get the town to temporarily have the power cut in the town for extra effect on the fireworks possibly.

Visually and mentally it would be something different and interesting for some to look at around the world to capture peoples minds and interest even though they are looking at it from a viewing box.

Plenty of hotels in town to handke the broadcast support and extras to and not far from Canberra, Sydney and Melbourne to cater for niche and international suppliers to produce the quality diverse product including all the tech gurus with their master interfaces producing different product to fans globally with plenty of room for them to get creative in a safe stable setting.

You can have all the mad entertainment around Australia in support when the ball bounces, she is back to old school, grassroots, the ball, the players and just them crossing that white line for a Grand Final victory which, in its bare form, is raw hardcore, what it is all about, in its purist form!!

 

[AvantGardener]

I wouldn't hold it at Robbo. How about Possum Park or Crossroads Oval

 

[FootyJunkie]

GF will likely be at Marvel, crowd or no crowd.

 

[Mr Magic]

GF will likely be at Marvel, crowd or no crowd.

I thought the biggest roadblock might be a contract the signed to keep it at the MCG for so many years.

If the parties are happy to waive that and crowds in attendance are not allowed I cannot see the sense in the AFL not taking the opportunity to pick a place outside Victoria.

Simply because it will be very hard otherwise for years for the GF to be away from the MCG and it terms of gaining kudos and exposure from a expansion perspective the nation wide let alone the opportunity to market a point of difference element globally cannot be taken for granted.

This is why I cannot understand why the AFL is not playing now advertising the game to the rest of the world while little else is competing with it for TV capture. Not playing games is actually costing the AFL and players money so I cannot understand the current stance at all!! Sure their is a virus but there is such a thing as quarantines and the players and staff are not babies like some of the boofheads coming off planes from overseas

We could still be playing and hell it could have been a 34 game home and away even at his with the finals and the players could have made extra with the AFL's best marketing opportunity ever!!

 

[Rich]

I thought the biggest roadblock might be a contract the signed to keep it at the MCG for so many years.

If the parties are happy to waive that and crowds in attendance are not allowed I cannot see the sense in the AFL not taking the opportunity to pick a place outside Victoria.

Simply because it will be very hard otherwise for years for the GF to be away from the MCG and it terms of gaining kudos and exposure from a expansion perspective the nation wide let alone the opportunity to market a point of difference element globally cannot be taken for granted.

This is why I cannot understand why the AFL is not playing now advertising the game to the rest of the world while little else is competing with it for TV capture. Not playing games is actually costing the AFL and players money so I cannot understand the current stance at all!!

We could still be playing and hell it could have been a 34 game home and away even at his with the finals and the players could have made extra with the AFL's best marketing opportunity ever!!

Ah, not sure if you’ve heard, but there’s a global pandemic that’s swept across the globe.

Sort of affecting things a little bit.

 

[Mr Magic]

Ah, not sure if you’ve heard, but there’s a global pandemic that’s swept across the globe.

Sort of affecting things a little bit.

only because certain decision makers allow it and refuse to think laterally

 

[Rich]

only because certain decision makers allow it and refuse to think laterally

Which ones?

 

[DarwinRoo]

Because they can't attend.

Thats the point. Crowd attendance is no longer relevant, what becomes relevant is the visual product and entertainment value on the screen seen by your remote audience including visual, sound and imagination, people engrossing in the game itself from the screen and the magnitude of the event celebrating in their own way in their own location. When the game starts it is simply grassroots about the players playing the game with their hearts and minds.

If the crowds could attend obviously have it in the big venues like the MCG

If no crowds is a great opportunity for promotion and expansion and broadcasting to the world something different to capture their hearts and minds. Probably will not happen but its an option to consider.

For example, at Wagga, fireworks could be shot out with plenty of room near the ground, from Bolton park and even from Willans Hill overlooking the ground. You would get some made selfie shots from the outer ground level from the hills hitting the internet if crowds could not attend.

I know people who know the biggest crane mob in the area apart from the two monster big cranes already mentioned. You could try things otherwise not possible in a rigid venue like the MCG.

The RAAF base/airport is 12 minutes away via car. You can have jets and whatever else flyovers in a dusk type scenario in an instant, solo artists could perform above the ground from cranes moving around in the air, people dropped in from the sky. You could have support entertainment not in the ground but next door at bolton park in wider spaces if they really want to get creative like a Olympic ceremony production. They could do their think and within a minute the ball bounces in the middle on the switch. In fact the TV production could switch to entertainment options in all the cities in Australia doing their own thing before the game starts from Melbourne, Sydney, Perth To Darwin, Canberra nearby, Adelaide and the Gold Coast, Brisbane and Tassie. A whole lotta options are possible because the emphasis is on the TV/media production and they can get real creative!!

One could even get the town to temporarily have the power cut in the town for extra effect on the fireworks possibly.

Visually and mentally it would be something different and interesting for some to look at around the world to capture peoples minds and interest even though they are looking at it from a viewing box.

Plenty of hotels in town to handke the broadcast support and extras to and not far from Canberra, Sydney and Melbourne to cater for niche and international suppliers to produce the quality diverse product including all the tech gurus with their master interfaces producing different product to fans globally with plenty of room for them to get creative in a safe stable setting.

You can have all the mad entertainment around Australia in support when the ball bounces, she is back to old school, grassroots, the ball, the players and just them crossing that white line for a Grand Final victory which, in its bare form, is raw hardcore, what it is all about, in its purist form!!

So have the AFL grand final in a town where it will never be held again and not have people attend?

It’s a stupid idea.

 

[Topkent]

Because they can't attend.

Thats the point. Crowd attendance is no longer relevant, what becomes relevant is the visual product and entertainment value on the screen seen by your remote audience including visual, sound and imagination, people engrossing in the game itself from the screen and the magnitude of the event celebrating in their own way in their own location. When the game starts it is simply grassroots about the players playing the game with their hearts and minds.

If the crowds could attend obviously have it in the big venues like the MCG

If no crowds is a great opportunity for promotion and expansion and broadcasting to the world something different to capture their hearts and minds. Probably will not happen but its an option to consider.

For example, at Wagga, fireworks could be shot out with plenty of room near the ground, from Bolton park and even from Willans Hill overlooking the ground. You would get some made selfie shots from the outer ground level from the hills hitting the internet if crowds could not attend.

I know people who know the biggest crane mob in the area apart from the two monster big cranes already mentioned. You could try things otherwise not possible in a rigid venue like the MCG.

The RAAF base/airport is 12 minutes away via car. You can have jets and whatever else flyovers in a dusk type scenario in an instant, solo artists could perform above the ground from cranes moving around in the air, people dropped in from the sky. You could have support entertainment not in the ground but next door at bolton park in wider spaces if they really want to get creative like a Olympic ceremony production. They could do their think and within a minute the ball bounces in the middle on the switch. In fact the TV production could switch to entertainment options in all the cities in Australia doing their own thing before the game starts from Melbourne, Sydney, Perth To Darwin, Canberra nearby, Adelaide and the Gold Coast, Brisbane and Tassie. A whole lotta options are possible because the emphasis is on the TV/media production and they can get real creative!!

One could even get the town to temporarily have the power cut in the town for extra effect on the fireworks possibly.

Visually and mentally it would be something different and interesting for some to look at around the world to capture peoples minds and interest even though they are looking at it from a viewing box.

Plenty of hotels in town to handke the broadcast support and extras to and not far from Canberra, Sydney and Melbourne to cater for niche and international suppliers to produce the quality diverse product including all the tech gurus with their master interfaces producing different product to fans globally with plenty of room for them to get creative in a safe stable setting.

You can have all the mad entertainment around Australia in support when the ball bounces, she is back to old school, grassroots, the ball, the players and just them crossing that white line for a Grand Final victory which, in its bare form, is raw hardcore, what it is all about, in its purist form!!

The games the entertainment, couldn't give a flying **** about any of this shit. Keep it the **** away from the ground final.

So they have to have a half time soccer game at concerts? What a joke

 

[Boxhead007]

Don’t do crack kids

 

[telsor]

If there is no crowd, other considerations would be things like facilities ...accommodation, training, broadcast, etc.

All that means it would still be played in a major city.

I dare say the MCG would be pretty keep to keep the game if at all possible though, if only to maintain the continuity argument for keeping it there, and their contract would still apply.


Mind you...If they were to have an AFL hub, the MCG and the area around it would be a pretty good choice. Second ground at Punt Road, nearby hotels for players, etc. You could probably even grab some extra facilities from across the railway at the tennis center, AAMI park & Collingwood's base.

 

[Billy ray]

play it at kardinia park to troll geelong (so long as they are not in it)

 

[Gavin Excell]

Did anyone see the pre-season GWS Richmond match? What was that like on TV??

Still that could be adjusted. Plenty of room to create different viewing spots.

Theres a couple of big cranes in the town at the moment. One for the new hospital, another for a bridge so they could hold a viewing platform up and move them around

I saw the Richmond v GWS GF and it was tedious

 

[telsor]

I saw the Richmond v GWS GF and it was MAGNIFICENT

EFA

 

[Mr Magic]

So have the AFL grand final in a town where it will never be held again and not have people attend?

It’s a stupid idea.

Not as stupid as having it at the MCG with no people.

Its about as stupid as AFL not playing now with players in quarantine because the decision makers feel entitled to a security blanket and are afraid Aussie Rules could be a success on the TV globally but are too afraid to try!!!

 

[Mr Magic]

If there is no crowd, other considerations would be things like facilities ...accommodation, training, broadcast, etc.

All that means it would still be played in a major city.

I dare say the MCG would be pretty keep to keep the game if at all possible though, if only to maintain the continuity argument for keeping it there, and their contract would still apply.


Mind you...If they were to have an AFL hub, the MCG and the area around it would be a pretty good choice. Second ground at Punt Road, nearby hotels for players, etc. You could probably even grab some extra facilities from across the railway at the tennis center, AAMI park & Collingwood's base.

Actually the facilities, accomodation, training and broadcast is why you would take it away from MCG. Wagga would be a better option. The only thing the MCG has got going for it is bigger ground to hold bigger crowd!!!

 

[DarwinRoo]

Not as stupid as having it at the MCG with no people.

Its about as stupid as AFL not playing now with players in quarantine because the decision makers feel entitled to a security blanket and are afraid Aussie Rules could be a success on the TV globally but are too afraid to try!!!

Well it is by a long way.

How are you going to stop the people in Wagga from going to the game?

 

[Boxhead007]

Not as stupid as having it at the MCG with no people.

Its about as stupid as AFL not playing now with players in quarantine because the decision makers feel entitled to a security blanket and are afraid Aussie Rules could be a success on the TV globally but are too afraid to try!!!

If it’s purely for tv is has to be at a major ground. The camera angles and production in the pre season was shit and sometimes hard to watch. Put a bloke up in a boom lift slightest bit of wind and he sways like a honeymooners

 

[Herne Hill Hammer]

Play it on top of Uluru / Ayers Rock, there's plenty of room, it might be a fast track though.

Chopper them in and have them fast rope down to the surface, have a fleet of drones up there televising it all.

If you kick the ball so far that it goes off the edge, you have to run down and retrieve it yourself. While you're doing that, your team can't replace you.

Australia's most iconic game being played in it's most iconic location.

 

[Aramis]

If no crowds is a great opportunity for promotion and expansion and broadcasting to the world something different to capture their hearts and minds. Probably

Channelling your inner Brett Kirk

 

[Mofra]

Play it in Bonnie Doon and award a one-off "Castle Cup"

The Grand Final Parade can be done in Camiras with the roof cut open. The goal posts can be shaved down to look like jousting sticks.