Moved Thread Silence at the HUN

[Chameleon75]

6 months has to be served "in competition". There will be no escaping that.

Do we know that for sure?

 

[replicant]

According to WADA regs, the only way they can get 6 months is to dob in someone else who is successfully prosecuted.

Otherwise the minimum is 1 year (if they adjudge that there is reduced liability for the players, if not, it's 2 years).

On top of that are possible team-based sanctions.

 

[GreatBradScott]

HUN coming to the party in t-minus 87 minutes.

 

[Satan]

HUN coming to the party in t-minus 87 minutes.

Has Robbo woken up?

 

[GreatBradScott]

Has Robbo woken up?

Already at the Bottle-O prepping for a late night.

 

[I Rock]

Has Robbo woken up?

It's when happy hour finishes at the pub.

 

[Satan]

Theres probably a lot of empty desks at Hs now as journos can work from anywhere as long as their lap top is charged and they havent blown there limit on the internet dongle down loading pawn

 

[Ron The Bear]

HS short on detail compared to the competition.

The results of an external probe into "irregular practices" at Essendon has been delayed because of legal complications.

The report, being put together by former Telstra chief executive Dr Ziggy Switkowski and medical expert Dr Andrew Garnham, now won't be released until Monday. It was initially set to be presented on Wednesday.

A source close to the investigation said: "There is a report that has been completed, but then there are other aspects. That report is one part of the process and then there are other parts that will continue because there are other agencies involved and questions that will arise from there,'' the source said.

"ASADA are continuing to work on things and that means that there are bits of information and interpretations ... things that need to be evaluated in the medical context.

"There is information that has been sought and investigated and then there are questions that need to be worked through."

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/tea...-hits-legal-snag/story-e6frf9l6-1226632566547

The Age's version:

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/legal-risk-keeps-dons-probe-sealed-20130430-2ir5k.html

 

[GreatBradScott]

That's because I was told by a senior source they keep getting scooped by The Age on this, so they scramble for details near deadline in the hope they get it out there before them.

 

[Satan]

scoops last 30 seconds, before the internet they lasted till 6.00 pm news

 

[spark12]

Already at the Bottle-O prepping for a late night.

classic, lol.

 

[Satan]

the hun is awake
Dosier reveals full drugs program at Essendon

Michael Warner, Mark Robinson
From: Herald Sun
May 01, 2013 12:00AM

SOME Essendon players were prescribed weekly injections of the banned anti-obesity drug AOD-9604 for all of last season.

The Herald Sun can also reveal they were regularly injected with thymosin, another substance banned by the Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority.

The Herald Sun has seen documents handed to ASADA that reveal Essendon's drugs program.

The dossier shows some players were prescribed weekly injections of the banned anti-obesity drug AOD-9604 for the duration of the 2012 season.

There are variants of Thymosin - some permitted for use - and Essendon is hopeful, but uncertain, of the version its players were administered by sacked sports scientist Stephen Dank.

Thymosin Beta 4, which is commonly used for horses, is the banned drug allegedly administered to Cronulla Sharks players in 2011.

Thymosin was mentioned in leaked text messages between Dank and Bombers coach James Hird.

Documents handed to ASADA reveal some Bombers players were given one Thymosin injection a week for six weeks and then one injection a month for the remainder of the AFL season.

Other supplements prescribed to Essendon players and detailed in consent forms signed by players and club officials include colostrum and Tribulus Forte. Colostrum and Tribulus, which are not injected, help with building strength and recovery but are not banned under the anti-doping code.

"The players were effectively being used as human guinea pigs," one figure close to the investigation said last night.

A central concern of the ASADA-AFL investigation is the lack of independent analysis of the supplements administered to the Essendon players.

It means ASADA cannot verify what the players were given.

Essendon has not been able to provide an independent assessment of the long-term health effects of some of the substances, some of which are not approved for human consumption.

It emerged yesterday the Bombers have engaged a public relations expert, Elizabeth Lukin of Essential Media Communications, to help manage the crisis at Windy Hill.

James Hird's own legal team is also being advised by leading spin doctor Ian Hanke.

"I run Media and Political Counsel and I have been advising Mr Hird's legal advisers, Ashurst, on media and communications strategy over the past weeks," Hanke said yesterday.

Lukin has been linked to Essendon since the drugs scandal erupted in February, helping shape the messages coming out of the stricken club.

 

[Saint Shags]

It just hit the fan....

 

[I Rock]

Silent no more.....

 

[Paddywhackers]

'It emerged yesterday the Bombers have engaged a public relations expert, Elizabeth Lukin of Essential Media Communications, to help manage the crisis at Windy Hill.'

I also helps when the chief writer of the major tabloid is dinky diehard Essendon, and the most biased journo of all time!

 

[dmc333]

Robbo indicating on 360 the Hun might come to the party tomorrow. Robbo's tone seems to have changed a little.

For anyone who didn't see it, Robbo sounded like he'd just walked into the last pub on earth and was told they'd run out of beer.

Seemed shattered.

 

[Paddywhackers]

For anyone who didn't see it, Robbo sounded like he'd just walked into the last pub on earth and was told they'd run out of beer.

Seemed shattered.

Gold someone needs to post a link of that. Absolutely Gold. Hird will be sacked very soon.

 

[Defacto]

holy shit balls. shit just got real.

i think its good night for some at windy hill

 

[QuietB]

For anyone who didn't see it, Robbo sounded like he'd just walked into the last pub on earth and was told they'd run out of beer.

Seemed shattered.

Nice summation

 

[Sunshine Saint]

I know.

But it does my head in. Accusing professionals of dropping all professionalism based on their own projections of team loyalty. It's a joke. It's more than a bit sad

Funny that you have trouble seeing that journalists could be unprofessional, but have no trouble in seeing that a sports scientist could do exactly that. So many twists and turns in trying to justify Essendon's actions, must be difficult to keep up.

 

[Lance Uppercut]

Funny that you have trouble seeing that journalists could be unprofessional, but have no trouble in seeing that a sports scientist could do exactly that. So many twists and turns in trying to justify Essendon's actions, must be difficult to keep up.

What are you even talking about? Do you know?

 

[Slax]

Think it is definitely sinking in that this is not going to get covered up like the AFL do with their drawn investigations which ignore the facts (refer Melbourne tanking and the fact they don't look at anyone else). Essendon are in this up to their eyeballs and it is clear that as more information comes out the club is having to keep moving the goal posts on what it knew. I remember Hird saying he didn't know much, they said it was done in preseason, it was only a few injections.

This for me is looking worse for Essendon than it is for Cronulla. My concern is also for the longterm health of the players involved, look at what has happened at Cronulla only 2 years down the track. The flow on effects from this will be similar to what happened at Carlton over the salary cap rort, they'll take a decade to recover.

 

[demon_dynasty13]

For anyone who didn't see it, Robbo sounded like he'd just walked into the last pub on earth and was told they'd run out of beer.

Seemed shattered.

lmao

poor Robbo

 

[jenny61_99]

Do we know that for sure?

Yes.

 

[Snake_Baker]

Yes.

Hang on a minute.

There is always the possibility that Daytripper has exclusive "inside word" on the matter which will make us all look like gibbering Bay 13 clowns, "when the truth finally comes out".