Oppo Camp Non Geelong football (AFL) discussion 2021/2022

[Cataholic]

Our gameplan never failed against the Doggies- there is no way to match them when they are on like tonight.

I'd suggest anyone could've been 'on' tonight. Even North Melbourne.

St Kilda are embarrassingly insipid.

 

[Vdubs]

I'd suggest anyone could've been 'on' tonight. Even North Melbourne.

St Kilda are embarrassingly insipid.

Wonder what the circumstances are for them. Has to be a reason. Saints are better than this. Although their last month has been below par.

 

[cats_09]

Wonder what the circumstances are for them. Has to be a reason. Saints are better than this. Although their last month has been below par.

Didn't Ratten only just re-sign also?

Not really a good endorsement

 

[BlakeyNoFlakey]

The Saints are soft.

 

[Cataholic]

Why is Weightman playing footy when his heart clearly lays in acting??

 

[Vdubs]

Didn't Ratten only just re-sign also?

Not really a good endorsement

Ok, high training loads, getting ready for September....?

 

[Cataholic]

Ok, high training loads, getting ready for September....?

They're in 10th atm I think, and dropping faster than a fat kid on a seesaw.

 

[Vdubs]

7 goals in 18 minutes- can they do it?

 

[Strange Cat]

7 goals in 18 minutes- can they do it?

No they can’t kick straight

 

[catempire]

Bringing a child up a Saints fan should be a crime against humanity.

 

[Vdubs]

No they can’t kick straight

exactly

 

[Mr Meow]

There's no point dressing it up. Both of these teams are very ordinary and not worthy of finals contention. Very glad they're on Geelong's radar soon.

 

[Gunf]

Saints just don't have enough actual A grade talent to perform week in and week out.

 

[Strange Cat]

There's no point dressing it up. Both of these teams are very ordinary and not worthy of finals contention. Very glad they're on Geelong's radar soon.

Cripple fight

 

[Vdubs]

Saints just don't have enough actual A grade talent to perform week in and week out.

King, Ryder, Steele, Sinclair, Jones, Membrey, Marshall- I rate those players
Higgins can be handy, but poor with accuracy tonight.
Gresham has dropped off

 

[Vdubs]

There's no point dressing it up. Both of these teams are very ordinary and not worthy of finals contention. Very glad they're on Geelong's radar soon.

If we are hungry, we should beat these teams. I

 

[Romeoh1]

Doggies are looking great; making Saints look average.

Dogs looked good tonight - looked rubbish a week ago, and the week before that. Unlikely to make the 8. The wheels fell off the saints a few weeks back-and they are playing average footy now.

 

[Vdubs]

Bontempelli was ridiculously good tonight. A bit of a Pendlebury/Cripps crossover.

 

[Gunf]

King, Ryder, Steele, Sinclair, Jones, Membrey, Marshall- I rate those players
Higgins can be handy, but poor with accuracy tonight.
Gresham has dropped off

King can be but is inconsistent
Ryder is injured half the time
Steele yes
Sinclair yes
Jones injury prone and inconsistent
Membrey B grade
Marshal B grade with A grade potential

So 2 A grade players and rest are inconsistent/B grade players

 

[Vdubs]

King can be but is inconsistent
Ryder is injured half the time
Steele yes
Sinclair yes
Jones injury prone and inconsistent
Membrey B grade
Marshal B grade with A grade potential

So 2 A grade players and rest are inconsistent/B grade players

Plenty of B graders at Geelong that I rate.
But true, they don't have out and out A graders.

 

[Gunf]

Plenty of B graders at Geelong that I rate.
But true, thgey don't have out and out A graders/

Every side has B graders but compare the good sides to the Saints

Hawkins Cameron Stengle( yes he is) A grade
Guthrie Duncan A grade (Atkins has looked A grade last month or so) Danger and Selwood still capable with moments of A grade
Blics A grade
Stewart A grade Henry A grade (B grade this year)
And SDK who is A grade or borderline A grade now

That is close to 10 and at least 7 A graders at Geelong compared to between 2 and 5 at Saints

I would bet most top sides have around 6-12 A grade talent

 

[Art Vandelay_]

SDK to the forward line is surely a very late April Fool’s joke.

Utter piffle

 

[My Tilly]

Every side has B graders but compare the good sides to the Saints

Hawkins Cameron Stengle( yes he is) A grade
Guthrie Duncan A grade (Atkins has looked A grade last month or so) Danger and Selwood still capable with moments of A grade
Blics A grade
Stewart A grade Henry A grade (B grade this year)
And SDK who is A grade or borderline A grade now

That is close to 10 and at least 7 A graders at Geelong compared to between 2 and 5 at Saints

I would bet most top sides have around 6-12 A grade talent

6-12 A grade talent?
Can you name the A graders that Melbourne have?
I'd say you would be likely to get 5 A graders at any of the top teams. Most are borderline B and then you have a batch of players who have not yet established themselves or are on the cusp of the best 22 on a week-to-week basis.

Blicavs is not an A grader. He has never made the All Australian team and has only ever made the 40 man squad three times in his career.
He is not elite in any one position.

Duncan is not an A grader. He was 2-3 years ago but has not come close to those levels ever since.

De Koning, nope. Not yet. He's tracking along very nicely but has a little while to go. I'd have Henry above him and he wouldn't be classified as an A grader either.

Selwood? Taking the piss surely. He is not elite anymore. Dangerfield borderline elite but he's inconsistent these days. Atkins, again, long way to go. Needs to start getting it about 25 times a game before we can start talking him up as an A grader.
(Surprised you didn't have Tuohy or Menegola in there as A graders too).

 

[dazbroncos]

Can I respond here or will you just give me another ban?
I think I'll just let it be.

Have a good night.

this is not the Footy Fantasy thread.
Maybe time to step away for the night.

GO CAtters

 

[And_ROOS]

6-12 A grade talent?
Can you name the A graders that Melbourne have?
I'd say you would be likely to get 5 A graders at any of the top teams. Most are borderline B and then you have a batch of players who have not yet established themselves or are on the cusp of the best 22 on a week-to-week basis.

Blicavs is not an A grader. He has never made the All Australian team and has only ever made the 40 man squad three times in his career.
He is not elite in any one position.

Duncan is not an A grader. He was 2-3 years ago but has not come close to those levels ever since.

De Koning, nope. Not yet. He's tracking along very nicely but has a little while to go. I'd have Henry above him and he wouldn't be classified as an A grader either.

Selwood? Taking the piss surely. He is not elite anymore. Dangerfield borderline elite but he's inconsistent these days. Atkins, again, long way to go. Needs to start getting it about 25 times a game before we can start talking him up as an A grader.
(Surprised you didn't have Tuohy or Menegola in there as A graders too).

Melbournes A-Graders are obvious to me. Oliver, Petracca, Gawn, Brayshaw and May.

When they lose any 1 of those players, there is a big drop. They lost games while May was out. They won the GF on the back of Petracca and Oliver. Gawn has been an elite ruckman for a few years now. If Petracca and Oliver keep up the last 2 years form, they will be classed elite by next season if not already.