Liberatore claims Carlton tanked in 2007 on Open Mike

[LBJ6]

Liberatore, an assistant coach for Carlton in 2007, has again claimed that:

the Blues - under interim coach Brett Ratten - were constructing ways to lose by warehousing players for the season and pulling stars including Brendan Fevola from the field.

"We had players who at the time didn't play for the rest of the year. To me that's tanking, isn't it?"

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...n-tanked-in-2007/story-fni5fazt-1226695145195

The AFL have already pulled a half arsed investigation into Liberatore's tanking claims, much like they did after Bailey's press conference when he was sacked in 2011.

The AFL then launched a full scale investigation into Melbourne after McLean's "blind freddy" comments On The Couch.

SURELY this warrants a full scale investigation into the dealings of the Carlton Football Club in the second half of 2007 - they lost the last 11 games straight when they reached the priority pick win limit. Even if concrete proof is not found, like at Melbourne, with Libbas comments it's evident they at least deserve a $500,000 fine for 'conduct unbecoming'.

 

[St 07]

I wouldn't worry about it too much, they set the precedent of pathetically weak punishment for tanking when they dealt with your mob.

 

[Royce Hafey]

Their tanking failed. So their punishment should be that we all just point and giggle. Oh wait! We're doing that already.

 

[forwardflanker]

I'd punish them by not allowing them to delist Mich Robinson

 

[forwardflanker]

I wouldn't worry about it too much, they set the precedent of pathetically weak punishment for tanking when they dealt with your mob.

This is their second offence though when it comes to cheating. Surely this would result in an even greater punishment

 

[markm106]

Adrian Anderson is gone. Don't hold your breath if you think AD might look into this. There is no doubt they tanked but I doubt this will go any further.

 

[BEEG]

AFL must come down hard on Carlton 500K fine should teach them a lesson

 

[St 07]

This is their second offence though when it comes to cheating. Surely this would result in an even greater punishment

Yeah for sure, you'd think so, but this is the AFL.

 

[Jaeger]

They should be investigated, even Carlton supporters know they tanked but, the AFL failed so embarrassingly with the Melbourne tanking saga, there's just no point.

 

[Ebert80]

Fine them 500k, then give them a $2m grant and priority prick.

 

[Purple Suit]

Fine them 500k, then give them a $2m grant and priority prick.

They also have to suspend Brett Ratten for six months which should cause the Hawks a few issues.

 

[The Prosecutor]

Their tanking failed. So their punishment should be that we all just point and giggle. Oh wait! We're doing that already.

And Melbourne's worked?

 

[KnaveyBlue]

LOL, Tony Liberatore and his feels again.

He's admitted nobody was ever told to lose on purpose, and it wasn't talked about amongst the staff.

This didn't have legs the first time around, and it seems like an odd time to bring it back up.

 

[*PAF]

Liberatore, an assistant coach for Carlton in 2007, has again claimed that:


http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...n-tanked-in-2007/story-fni5fazt-1226695145195

The AFL have already pulled a half arsed investigation into Liberatore's tanking claims, much like they did after Bailey's press conference when he was sacked in 2011.

The AFL then launched a full scale investigation into Melbourne after McLean's "blind freddy" comments On The Couch.

SURELY this warrants a full scale investigation into the dealings of the Carlton Football Club in the second half of 2007 - they lost the last 11 games straight when they reached the priority pick win limit. Even if concrete proof is not found, like at Melbourne, with Libbas comments it's evident they at least deserve a $500,000 fine for 'conduct unbecoming'.

Another Melbourne team being investigated for tanking, should the Crows start worrying?

 

[dymot]

LOL, Tony Liberatore and his feels again.

He's admitted nobody was ever told to lose on purpose, and it wasn't talked about amongst the staff.

This didn't have legs the first time around, and it seems like an odd time to bring it back up.

Why is it odd and maybe he was threatened to say he was not telling the truth when claiming it by people at or involved at Carlton. It seems even if they did indeed tank they have struggled from doing that.

 

[Tulip]

LOL, Tony Liberatore and his feels again.

He's admitted nobody was ever told to lose on purpose, and it wasn't talked about amongst the staff.

This didn't have legs the first time around, and it seems like an odd time to bring it back up.

Seems pretty much like what Brock McLean said.

I'd like to think there would be a full scale investigation, with Haddadi and Clothier locking people in rooms and demanding answers, but I really don't care enough.

Sport is corrupt to the core, pathetic governance.

 

[Royce Hafey]

And Melbourne's worked?

No it didn't. And believe me, I for one have been pointing and giggling a lot at them as well. But they probably didn't notice as they are used to people doing that.

 

[BornPort]

And how did that work out for them?

 

[yaco55]

Why did Carlton sack Pagan if they weren't trying their best.

Surely they could have waited to the end of the year.

 

[Gasometer]

Tanking shmanking; there are way more interesting things about Libba that Noddy needs to delve into.

Anywho.....Open Mike.....Breaking Bad; know what I will be choosing.

 

[Turkey Tom]

This is an old story. Came out in 2008. AFL just swept it under the carpet at the time.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2008-03-13/carlton-tanked-liberatore/1071980

http://news.smh.com.au/sport/afl-to-talk-to-liberatore-re-tank-claims-20080314-1zfk.html

 

[chunkylover53]

Depends what you call tanking. There's a pretty blurred line.

My local club had high hopes this year only to have a long list of injuries half way through and a slight chance to slip into the finals. It was decided that there was no point and we might as well get the players right for next season and give some kids in the reserves a chance to play senior footy for the remainder of the year. Is that tanking? West Coast have put players in for surgery, John Worsfold said today he was unsure how many wins they had or where they were on the ladder (if he wasn't taking the piss), are they tanking?

I'd like some evidence besides Libba's "feeling" to support the claim of Carlton tanking. All I remember was that Carlton were genuinely shit and lost 11 on the trot and the only strange decision was to leave Travis Johnstone as loose man and allow him to have as much ball as he wanted. Which Ratten explained why that decision was made.

 

[ibra]

How about sending something Richmonds way. At the time both those clubs cheated and were trying to lose, Richmond were trying not to win (to little avail) and as a result of the manipulation of results, we missed out on picks.

 

[port_adelaide_1870]

You see its not tanking to the AFL because each player that played for carlton in 2007 went out to win and gave it their all... AFL cant see the connection to team selection and tanking

 

[mehow2g]

Fine them 500k, then give them a $2m grant and priority prick.

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