Free Agency Liam Jones - [Joins Dogs as UFA]

[bluespooner]

He was traded to Lions.

2017 Trade for Luke Hodge - Draftguru

www.draftguru.com.au

He was traded for effectively nothing. A one pick upgrade on a third round draft pick - Hodge and pick 44 for picks 43 and 75.

 

[Libbaaaa]

Carlton eligible for compensation on Liam Jones

Liam Jones, expected to join the Western Bulldogs on a three-year deal, has been deemed a free agent by the AFL, giving the Blues potential compensation.

www.theage.com.au

Especially because the money is spread over three years for cap reasons.

Reading that his p.a. salary surely won’t qualify for any meaningful compo?

 

[HavUEvaSeenTheRain]

It will be pretty borderline if we get compo or not. He will probably be paid the same as players like Jack silvagni

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Jack Silvagni

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26

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194cm

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92kg

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11.0

3star

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7.1

3star

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3.8

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3.8

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2.9

4star

G

0.7

4star

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5.3

1star

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4.0

1star

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1.3

1star

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1.7

2star

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0.7

1star

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0.7

4star

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9.2

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6.2

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3.0

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3.4

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2.8

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0.8

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are, more then guys like Newnes, Curnow, Marchbank, Plowman and Newman and way under the good players. It’ll be tight because I imagine there is a big pool of players in the bottom paid ~40% over 25 years old where an extra $20k or so will make the difference. His age also hurts our chances.

I imagine Waites contract had massive incentives considering his injury history so it’s probably not surprising we missed out with him.

 

[footyfan1978]

He was traded for effectively nothing. A one pick upgrade on a third round draft pick - Hodge and pick 44 for picks 43 and 75.

Brisbane never used the pick.
Hawks drafted Worpel with pick 43 and Ross with 75

 

[BallaratBulldog]

Three years is still a long time for someone his age.

 

[projectv]

Three years is still a long time for someone his age.

Surprised such a long deal is on the table. Not played at the top level for a year, and he'll be 34 when that contract runs out. Big gamble by the Bulldogs.

 

[TiAn_]

It’s one list spot for a bloke that hasn’t had any serious injuries to date and won’t be on a big contract. Same age Lake was when he went to the Hawks on a two year deal.

 

[HavUEvaSeenTheRain]

Yeh he will probably get around the avg AFL wage and play in a position they are desperate to fill. They would be mad not to have a crack.

 

[Northernsoul74]

Three years is still a long time for someone his age.

It is but I assume/hope the extra year security means the average wage is pretty low.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Surprised such a long deal is on the table. Not played at the top level for a year, and he'll be 34 when that contract runs out. Big gamble by the Bulldogs.

You seen the Dogs defence lately? It's not a gamble at all. Smart business.

 

[Mofra]

You seen the Dogs defence lately? It's not a gamble at all. Smart business.

I think it's a massive risk personally, I can understand teams would have to pitch at least 2 years to sign him.

 

[Elmer_Judd]

I think it's a massive risk personally, I can understand teams would have to pitch at least 2 years to sign him.

2 Years is okay, 3 years is defintley dicey.

But it means Carlton get a juicy compo pick, I'm all for it

 

[Doggy]

2 Years is okay, 3 years is defintley dicey.

But it means Carlton get a juicy compo pick, I'm all for it

Carlton isn't going to get much

 

[Elmer_Judd]

Carlton isn't going to get much

3rd round pick in the deepest draft in years , yep not going to knock that back

 

[Doggy]

3rd round pick in the deepest draft in years , yep not going to knock that back

It will be based on contract size, which won't be alot

 

[Run Too Far]

Smart move, he is healthy and fairly durable.

Wood played less than half of all HnA matches in 3 out of his last 4 seasons. Jones will come cheaper. Some nice moneyball by the dogs while they have a cracking midfield and Hagan on the rise.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

I think it's a massive risk personally, I can understand teams would have to pitch at least 2 years to sign him.

Look at the alternatives you have in defence. It isn't awful

 

[cecil]

One of the articles a week or so ago mentioned the third year was purely for salary cap reasons. May be a case of he will likely play for 2 years but have some money spread into a 3rd year on the rookie list if needed.

 

[Mofra]

One of the articles a week or so ago mentioned the third year was purely for salary cap reasons. May be a case of he will likely play for 2 years but have some money spread into a 3rd year on the rookie list if needed.

Pretty sure GWS did that for Joel Patfull one year

 

[theyellowsash]

so why exactly are carlton going to get compensation for the dogs recruiting jones? its their fault they kept an ineligible player on their list. no other clubs get compensation for delisted free agents or retired players.

 

[tunksy]

what a rort. free pick for a bloke that left the game.

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

so why exactly are carlton going to get compensation for the dogs recruiting jones? its their fault they kept an ineligible player on their list. no other clubs get compensation for delisted free agents or retired players.

Carlton didn’t delist Jones and retired players generally aren’t allowed back in the league for 18 months. He is moving as an unrestricted free agent.

Compensation is fair for a player we otherwise would have retained if not for rules out of our hands.

 

[The Inbetweener]

It’s extremely long odds he will generate a compensation pick (unless it’s a dodgy deal from the AFL) based on his age.

 

[Libbaaaa]

It’s extremely long odds he will generate a compensation pick (unless it’s a dodgy deal from the AFL) based on his age.

That's what I thought? Do they give out 5th round or 6th round picks as compo?

 

[branedotorg]

It’s extremely long odds he will generate a compensation pick (unless it’s a dodgy deal from the AFL) based on his age.

of course its a dodgy deal from the AFL, the compensation equation, like the priority pick equation is intentionally obscured.

Do you think Carlton, after the way Jones left the club, would release his contract for nothing when they could make him sit it out until the mid-season draft? this stinks of the AFL stitching up a third or so for the blues and WB getting a backman to fill in until Darcy is ready