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How does Paul Chapman slip through?
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Well said. I'll be the first to admit I really enjoy watching Geelong play, and especially like several players. Including Chapman.
I can only admire how well Geelong have been run in the last several years.
As for the rivalry - it makes the games especially intense but it ends there.
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Well done on completely missing the point.
boncer34
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Justin Murphy?
Disclaimer:
On behalf of all rational Cat's supporters I apologise for the f*ckwits in our fanbase that still can't accept that Chappie is gone because:
1. He turned down our contract offer and
2. His body is almost shot
Some day I hope the spoiled brats who have come to this club and only experienced success will drop off the bandwagon, but for now we have to deal with the drama queens.
We are not all like that
On behalf of all rational Cat's supporters I apologise for the f*ckwits in our fanbase that still can't accept that Chappie is gone because:
1. He turned down our contract offer and
2. His body is almost shot
Some day I hope the spoiled brats who have come to this club and only experienced success will drop off the bandwagon, but for now we have to deal with the drama queens.
We are not all like that
Sprained ankle and it's end of the world. How's Motlop and Christiansen doing this season?
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No not the end of the world for a 22 year old, at 32 any injury is a major issue.
They'll probably jab him and send him out, Jab him with Pain Killers that is nothing else of course!
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Well he is 32. A lot of clubs simply don't have the list profile to take on a player of that age for two years.
I think a lot of people are being too harsh on Geelong; I believe they had (and I would need to check the accuracy of this) eight players over 30 on their list at the end of last year - they really needed to start turning over the list.
Essendon on the other hand, after its list changes had only one (Fletcher), so they could accommodate him.
That and we needed another reliable forward option.
Just hearsay now, but I believe Carlton and Essendon were the two interested suitors. Chapman assessed that Carlton were too far away from contending and went to the Bombers.
Fair enough. It's hard to believe anyone on BF.
You can believe it or not.
I didn't like what I heard, it seemed more personnel than good reasons.
Hocking said fans wanted him to stay coz of his good game against port but he said had a shocking game against freo, that's when I stopped asking questions (coz he was sub and I got over it)
Plus he was called undisciplined coz of that very minor bump.
Pfft!
Would have liked to see more from non Geelong and Essendon people about possible reasons why their clubs didn't show interest in Chappy. From a Collingwood perspective
- We had delisted some older players due to injuries and form. Form may not have been an issue with Chappy but injury may have been. Leap of faith for short term gain.
- Regardless of some views (very few) we are not a chance of a flag in the next two years so the recruitment could have been for pinching a couple of extra wins and mentoring.
- Putting time into younger players who could have ten years at the club. If not, risk losing them through seeking opportunities elsewhere.
- Risk the nauseating Chappy love shown by Bombers supporters at games. The Colingwoooood chant is cringeworthy enough these days.
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- Risk the nauseating Chappy love shown by Bombers supporters at games. The Colingwoooood chant is cringeworthy enough these days.
And he's not even the most popular debutant Essendon's had in the last year
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I didn't really know enough about that story until years later. At the time, I thought it seemed pretty reasonable for Murphy to be filthy and I thought he was a pretty good player for the Cats that year. Trust me, I was shaking my head a lot at how the Cats farewelled Buddha Hocking from the AFL that day as well.
1. The contract offer was an absolute insult. Either sign him with no limit on the number of games he plays, then manage him/drop him as his body and form dictates (you know, treat him like any other player); or cut him loose. The 'offer' looks suspiciously like the club just giving Chapman a token offer that they knew he'd refuse, just so they can say 'Hey, we made him an offer...we're not the bad guys.'
2. If Chapman's body is shot, there's a lot of other Geelong players, young and old, that must be in serious trouble. Because plenty of them have significantly worse injury histories than Chapman in recent years.
Sometimes I wonder why the 'Hooray for Everything' types even bother signing up for a site like this. I thought the whole point was to discuss this stuff, present alternative viewpoints, suggest what you might have done if it was your decision and so on. Debate over the Thursday night selections, debate over how the team should match up against the opposition on the weekend, debate over how the sub should be used on game day, debate over whether making a late change on game day every week for 'match-ups' (and often costing the bloke who is taken out a game in the VFL as a consequence) is a worthwhile exercise, debate on which veterans should be managed and when, debate over if and when it's time to start a rebuild. I don't know, I find it pretty boring to just have the mindset that 'well, the club made the decision and the people at the club are smart, so it must be the correct one.' If I want the club's perspective, I'll go to the club's website. I thought leaving Chapman dangling was dumb in September, I thought it was dumb when they let him go and I think it's dumb now. Doesn't mean I don't love the club and appreciate everything that they've got right over my time as a supporter.
You've got to be under 30, and probably under 20 to believe that. The dislike between Hawthorn and Geelong fans goes back a lot further than when Chapman started playing for us. It was there in the late 1980s.
boncer34
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Yet didn't appear for 20 years.
Sorry but you can't claim that it goes back 30 years when for 20 years neither club gave a s**t.
I'd be wary right there. Anyone who singled out Chapman's game for blame in the Qualifying Final is either very biased, or wasn't paying attention. For one thing he was the sub, yet had 11 disposals, 3 marks and laid 5 tackles. That was in 44% game time. Josh Caddy had 84% game time, yet had 9 touches, 1 mark and 0 tackles. Nathan Vardy had 78% game time, but had 8 touches, 4 marks, 1 goal, 1 tackle and 6 hitouts (and he was meant to be a ruckman). Blicavs, Walker, Lonergan and Varcoe were others that all had underwhelming games to put it mildly.
I've got no problem with any Hawthorn player, their coaches or their administration. The enmity that exists stems purely from a small subset of supporters. Have rarely enjoyed a Grand Final win as a neutral more than last year, when I got to watch a football team prevail against Ross Lyon's anti-football.
boncer34
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Between 1989 and 2008 Geelong and Hawthorn played in one game above 60 thousand, the second semi in 1991.
They played in three games above 40 thousand.
Hell they even sent Geelong to Tasmania in 2007 indicating how low drawing the game was considered before 2008.
But yeah ok huuuuuge rivalry.
Excellent effort in misunderstanding. I never said there was a huge rivalry. I said the two sets of supporters have disliked each other for a long period of time. Anyone who has been to Geelong / Hawthorn matches since about 1985 knows that. And it's got nothing to do with crowd size either.
This is my point, they should've kept Chapman for at least this year knowing that Menzal wlil never play again and they also knew Motlop was struggling over the summer. Christensen being out long term has compounded their forward line concerns. Geelong are basically reaping the benefit of blooding 10 players last year. They certainly have some good replacements on the rise. My argument is Chapman was the difference between winning and losing a Preliminary final, Chapman plays and the Hawks don't win the flag! You cannot put enough emphasis on experience and Essendon fans are seeing the difference an A list player can make to their team right now. He might still go down long term, but i would rather have him on our side than playing against us. IMO he is already Essendon's most valuable player. I wonder if there was more to this story than has been told? Getting suspended during the finals series didn't help his cause.
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Uh oh,Dan26 has a child or an evil twin on Bigfooty
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Get over it Jack or just go and follow the Bombers.You're always whinging about something Geelong have done.
You make Rennis The Menace seem sane
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Chappy at Essendon makes me happy
