Government Arseclown Tim Wilson

[Play by Numbers]

Former freemarketeer stooge and IPA small government champion, who abandoned his principles and opposition to the Human Rights Commission to take on a cushy role as saboteur and liberal plant for commission president in waiting, seems to not only have performed the mental backflips required to reconcile his freedom loving views with violent repression of protesters, or plum public service roles, but also now engages in mild apologism disguised as critique for onerous government surveilance.

Yep, thats right, the genuinally Orwellian data retention regime is not in fact that, even though it probably exceeds the human surveillance in that well heeled government policy manual by some degrees, but in fact is an idea with merit that just needs tweeking.

Couched among what seems like flaccid but earnest objections, there is a number of disturbing assumptions and partial advocacy, that if the government gets things right and follows his suggestions, which in his eyes seems to be happening, everything will be ok.

Tim seems to believe that, mandatory data retention is acceptable, warrants should not be required coz administrative burden, the government is doing a good job in it's approach, we already volunteer data so no biggy, retention already exists this is just better codified and our metadata is property of telecomms so just deal.

Tim Wilson is what happens when you peel back the me first and only libertarian ideology with ambition, and find no real ethical, ideological or consistent framework to speak of, just naked opportunism.


http://www.theguardian.com/commenti...ata-retention-scheme-is-not-1984-come-to-life

The Australian government's data retention scheme is not 1984 come to life

Data retention, without strong checks and penalties for misuse, could pose a serious risk to privacy – but the government is being constructive

http://www.theguardian.com/commenti...ata-retention-scheme-is-not-1984-come-to-life

 

[Gough]

The conservative NTTAWWTter, most self loathing creature on earth, the poor, sad bastard.

 

[Play by Numbers]

The conservative NTTAWWTter, most self loathing creature on earth, the poor, sad bastard.

My question, how does one resolve this egg and chicken scenario, does government corrupt, or do the ethically inconsistent corrupt government.

He has abandoned his values at a rate of knots, assuming his values weren't a smokescreen, which is what many accuse the IPA of being

 

[Lebbo73]

The conservative NTTAWWTter, most self loathing creature on earth, the poor, sad bastard.

I wouldn't of thought that you would use those choice of words Gough! Seriously though, I generally support the IPA's agenda. However, I would of thought that the mandatory retention of metadata was against Tim Wilson's ideals. I know it is against mine.

 

[clogged]

As if the IPA are anything except useful idiots for big business - that Wilson abandoned his principles to support metadata retention should not be surprising to anyone who's paid close attention to this mob. They're frauds.

 

[Danny Cullen]

worried about your pr0n records are we boys. 99.9% of us have nothing to worry about. Just more white noise from the usual suspects.

 

[Danny Cullen]

I didn't need to read the OP to state that

 

[Brown Bottle]

More worried about the peeling back of our basic rights and freedoms by those who were appointed to protect them I suspect Danny. That applies to all of us, regardless of what our browsing habits are.

 

[Play by Numbers]

As if the IPA are anything except useful idiots for big business - that Wilson abandoned his principles to support metadata retention should not be surprising to anyone who's paid close attention to this mob. They're frauds.

Like a less prestigious Cato. PR/advocacy disguised as "public policy".

 

[Sir Priddis]

would u still watch pr0n?

 

[Play by Numbers]

would u still watch pr0n?

My concern is as much for standard privacy as for people who work in ip sensitive industries or journos.

 

[imadodgyumpire]

Heard him on ABC radio for years. I can never remember any time he made a sensible comment. Only spoke contrarily just for the sake of doing it, or come up with some other nonsense that wasn't helpful. His only endearing quality is that he's not John Roskam.

 

[romeoh]

Heard him on ABC radio for years. I can never remember any time he made a sensible comment. Only spoke contrarily just for the sake of doing it, or come up with some other nonsense that wasn't helpful. His only endearing quality is that he's not John Roskam.

Nailed him.

 

[Lester Burnham]

warrants should not be required coz administrative burden

This part of your post is worth discussion.

The rest is a rant.

 

[Play by Numbers]

Where is Tim Wilson on the filter? Lack of legal and free speach protections are probably just colateral whn it comes to the property rights of tax dodging multi nationals.

 

[Last of the Roys]

Gee what a great start to a thread by calling a known homosexual you disagree with an arseclown. Then the first reply calls him a conservative NTTAWWTter (and by the way Tim Wilson would probably describe himself as libertarian not conservative).

It is pretty pathetic in this day an age. I didn't even bother engaging with the rest of what you wrote, even though the privacy vs. protection issue is something worthwhile to discuss.

Really, why do people just drop all semblance of civility the moment they become anonymous behind a keyboard? Do they think it will win people over that disagree with them, because it does the opposite. Do they just momentarily lose self control when getting worked up about an issue?

It just makes it hard to engage in real discussions when people go out of their way to polarize all the time. The start of this thread is of course one of the more mild example - this kind of thing happens everywhere across the net and is so pervasive that it is almost hard to believe. Seemingly normal people think its OK to start hurling some of the most inane and ridiculous abuse just because they are anonymous. Things you would never usually say out loud in a debate in public become the standard lingua franca of the net.

No wonder most people keep away from engaging in comments / conversations on divisive issue.

 

[clogged]

Gee what a great start to a thread by calling a known homosexual you disagree with an arseclown. Then the first reply calls him a conservative NTTAWWTter (and by the way Tim Wilson would probably describe himself as libertarian not conservative).

It is pretty pathetic in this day an age. I didn't even bother engaging with the rest of what you wrote, even though the privacy vs. protection issue is something worthwhile to discuss.

Really, why do people just drop all semblance of civility the moment they become anonymous behind a keyboard? Do they think it will win people over that disagree with them, because it does the opposite. Do they just momentarily lose self control when getting worked up about an issue?

It just makes it hard to engage in real discussions when people go out of their way to polarize all the time. The start of this thread is of course one of the more mild example - this kind of thing happens everywhere across the net and is so pervasive that it is almost hard to believe. Seemingly normal people think its OK to start hurling some of the most inane and ridiculous abuse just because they are anonymous. Things you would never usually say out loud in a debate in public become the standard lingua franca of the net.

No wonder most people keep away from engaging in comments / conversations on divisive issue.

Hi Tim.

 

[Maggie5]

Gee what a great start to a thread by calling a known homosexual you disagree with an arseclown. Then the first reply calls him a conservative NTTAWWTter (and by the way Tim Wilson would probably describe himself as libertarian not conservative).

It is pretty pathetic in this day an age. I didn't even bother engaging with the rest of what you wrote, even though the privacy vs. protection issue is something worthwhile to discuss.

Really, why do people just drop all semblance of civility the moment they become anonymous behind a keyboard? Do they think it will win people over that disagree with them, because it does the opposite. Do they just momentarily lose self control when getting worked up about an issue?

It just makes it hard to engage in real discussions when people go out of their way to polarize all the time. The start of this thread is of course one of the more mild example - this kind of thing happens everywhere across the net and is so pervasive that it is almost hard to believe. Seemingly normal people think its OK to start hurling some of the most inane and ridiculous abuse just because they are anonymous. Things you would never usually say out loud in a debate in public become the standard lingua franca of the net.

No wonder most people keep away from engaging in comments / conversations on divisive issue.

Where is the outrage about the Plibersek thread? Don't think she is homosexual but also has arse clown in the thread title.

 

[rodney hoo]

It just makes it hard to engage in real discussions when people go out of their way to polarize all the time. The start of this thread is of course one of the more mild example - this kind of thing happens everywhere across the net and is so pervasive that it is almost hard to believe. Seemingly normal people think its OK to start hurling some of the most inane and ridiculous abuse just because they are anonymous. Things you would never usually say out loud in a debate in public become the standard lingua franca of the net.

You obviously have not kept up to date with news corp here or abroad .

 

[Play by Numbers]

Former IPA flunky and current government apologist Tim Wilson sure does love to spend big on the public purse.

Much like the IPA and their tax status, it seems government largesse is only the enemy when used on those who are poor.

Contemptable hypocrite who acts as a shield of obfuscation for government rights abuse, whilst his nose is in the trough he spent years attacking.

http://m.smh.com.au/federal-politic...n_code=nocode&promote_channel=social_facebook

 

[Lebbo73]

Former IPA flunky and current government apologist Tim Wilson sure does love to spend big on the public purse.

Much like the IPA and their tax status, it seems government largesse is only the enemy when used on those who are poor.

Contemptable hypocrite who acts as a shield of obfuscation for government rights abuse, whilst his nose is in the trough he spent years attacking.

http://m.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/tony-abbotts-human-rights-man-tim-wilson-racks-up-77000-in-expenses-20150704-gi46m3?&utm_source=social&utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=nc&eid=socialn:fac-14omn0013-optim-nnn:nonpaid-25/06/2014-social_traffic-all-organicpost-nnn-smh-o&campaign_code=nocode&promote_channel=social_facebook

What was that about not paying tax?

http://www.afr.com/news/policy/industrial-relations/its-working-for-the-unions-20120614-j2k00

 

[AM]

The conservative NTTAWWTter, most self loathing creature on earth, the poor, sad bastard.

Don't hold back Goughie. Tell us what you really think.

 

[ralphmalph]

Don't hold back Goughie. Tell us what you really think.

Suspect he's paraphrasing Bob Ellis describing Christopher Pearson.

Gough?

 

[Baldy Head]

Former IPA flunky and current government apologist Tim Wilson sure does love to spend big on the public purse.

Much like the IPA and their tax status, it seems government largesse is only the enemy when used on those who are poor.

Contemptable hypocrite who acts as a shield of obfuscation for government rights abuse, whilst his nose is in the trough he spent years attacking.

http://m.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/tony-abbotts-human-rights-man-tim-wilson-racks-up-77000-in-expenses-20150704-gi46m3?&utm_source=social&utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=nc&eid=socialn:fac-14omn0013-optim-nnn:nonpaid-25/06/2014-social_traffic-all-organicpost-nnn-smh-o&campaign_code=nocode&promote_channel=social_facebook

Why isn't the Syria Morning Herald supplying the expenses info of the other Human Rights Commissioners?

 

[Maggie5]

Why isn't the Syria Morning Herald supplying the expenses info of the other Human Rights Commissioners?

Maybe because they didn't get an increase?