Analysis GOALLESS QUARTERS

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malcheski said:
Interesting to see the stats from 97-Hinkley to see how it marries up


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I've gone on AFL tables and gone from 97-2004 Grand Final

John Cahill

1997

Round 2 1997 v Essendon (33-point Loss)

Round 11 1997 v Sydney (35-point Loss)

Round 13 1997 v Fremantle (15-point Win)

Round 14 1997 v Hawthorn (32-point Loss)

Round 19 1997 v Adelaide (7-point Loss)

1998

Round 5 1998 v Melbourne (49-point Loss)

Round 11 1998 v West Coast (2-point Loss)

Round 13 1998 v Bulldogs (34-point Win)



Mark Williams

1999

Round 5 1999 v Melbourne (24-point Loss)

Round 11 1999 v Richmond (2-point Win)

Round 22 1999 v Bulldogs (67-point Loss)

2000

Round 1 2000 v Essendon (94-point Loss)

Round 16 2000 v Essendon (31-point Loss)

Round 17 2000 v Fremantle (18-point Loss)

2001

Round 1 2001 v Brisbane (6-point Win)

Round 16 2001 v Brisbane (34-point Loss)

Qualifying Final v Brisbane (Loss by 32 points)

2002

Round 16 2002 v Kangaroos (29-point Loss)

Round 19 2002 v Carlton (9-point Win)

Semi Final v Essendon (24-point Win)



2003

Round 1 2003 v West Coast (48-point Loss)

Round 6 2003 v Richmond (27-point Win)

Preliminary Final v Collingwood (44-point Loss)

2004

Round 8 2004 v Kangaroos (92-point Loss)


In our Premiership season we only had 1 game that was a goalless quarter. I also noted that we started the season with a 96 point WIN against Essendon and a 83 point WIN against Hawthorn in Round 3. This was after losing the Preliminary Final by 44 points.

It should also be noted that after we got thrashed by the Kangaroos we bounced back the next week with a 78-point WIN against Richmond.

I just can't see any of that happening under Hinkley so when people use the "BuT ChoCo LoST 2 PreLiMS As WEll" argument it doesn't really stack up compared to how Port were playing in 2004 compared to 2022!
 
2005

Round 6 2005 v Richmond (56-point Loss)

Round 9 2005 v Essendon (19-point Win)

Eliminated in Semi Final with a 83 point loss to Adelaide

2006

Round 3 2006 v Fremantle (31-point Loss)

Round 6 2006 v Adelaide (50-point Loss)

Round 14 v Richmond (38-point Loss)

Round 16 v St Kilda (4-point Loss)

Missed Finals- Finished 12th

2007

Round 3 2007 v Adelaide (24-point Loss)

Round 12 2007 v Essendon (31-point Win)

Round 20 2007 V Hawthorn (5-point Win)

Infamous Grand Final Loss

2008

Round 11 2007 v Carlton (12-point Loss)

Round 17 2007 v Fremantle (28-point Loss)

Round 20 2007 v Collingwood (31-point Loss)

Missed Finals- Finished 13th

2009

Round 5 2009 v St Kilda (66-point Loss)

Round 17 2009 v Adelaide (70-point Loss)

Round 21 2009 v Brisbane (15-point Loss) 2nd quarter

Round 21 2009 v Brisbane (15-point Loss) 4th quarter

Missed Finals- Finished 10th

2010 (Mark Williams coached last game in Round 15)

Round 2 2010 v West Coast (3-point Win)

Round 5 2010 v St Kilda (10-point Win)

Round 10 2010 v Richmond (47-point Loss) 2nd quarter

Round 10 2010 v Richmond (47-point Loss) 4th quarter

Round 11 2010 v Hawthorn (11-point Loss)

Round 12 2010 v Sydney (38-point Loss)

Round 14 2010 v Fremantle (57-point Loss)

Mark Williams was sacked after losing 8 games on the trot by an average margin of 30 points.

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Carlton
1​
Melbourne
47​
Richmond
11​
Hawthorn
38​
Sydney
36​
North Melbourne
57​
Fremantle
26​
Collingwood


2010 (Matthew Primus takes over from Round 16)

Round 16 2010 v Bulldogs (36-point Loss)

Missed Finals- Finished 10th

2011

Round 4 2011 v Adelaide (32-point Win)

Round 11 2011 v Carlton (62-point Loss)

Round 15 2011 v Brisbane (11-point Loss)

Round 16 2011 v St Kilda (56-point Loss)

Round 20 2011 v Collingwood (138-point Loss)

Round 21 2011 v Hawthorn (165-point Loss) 1st quarter

Round 21 2011 v Hawthorn (165-point Loss) 4th quarter

Missed Finals- Finished 16th

2012 (Round 19 against GWS was the last game for )

Round 7 2012 v Fremantle (40-point Loss)

Round 14 2012 v Geelong (38-point Loss)

Round 16 2012 v Essendon (50-point Loss)

Round 18 2012 v Fremantle (27-point Loss)

Matthew Primus resigned after losing to GWS in Round 19

Missed Finals- Finished 14th
 

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John Cahill- 8 goalless quarters in 2 seasons
Mark Williams- 41 goalless quarters in close to 12 seasons (Last game Round 15 2010)
Matthew Primus- 12 goalless quarters in 2 seasons (Round 16 2010-Round 19 2012)

The worst ever season for goalless quarter was in 2010 when there were 8!
The 2nd worst season was 2011 when there were 7.

One more goalless quarter from a Hinkley coached team and he will be equal with Mark Williams for goalless quarters despite coaching for less games.

Mark Williams got sacked after losing 8 games in a row with an average losing margin of 30 points.

Hinkley is now up to a 5 game losing streak with an average losing margin of 36 points.
 
philreich said:
With stats like that, I can imagine Ken wearing his Port top to bed, and his missus says to him, "You won't score tonight, wearing that!!!"
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Ken wouldn't own any Port merchandise.
 
Schulzenfest said:
Ken wouldn't own any Port merchandise.
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Probably goes to sleep in his SUNS top, fondly remembering the time he spent at a club where they didn't really mind being the 'someone who had to lose' and there weren't even any supporters to demand they think otherwise.
 
John Cahill- 8 goalless quarters in 2 seasons
Mark Williams- 41 goalless quarters in close to 12 seasons (Last game Round 15 2010)
Matthew Primus- 12 goalless quarters in 2 seasons (Round 16 2010-Round 19 2012)
Ken Hinkley- 41 goalless quarters
 
Mikey13G said:
John Cahill- 8 goalless quarters in 2 seasons
Mark Williams- 41 goalless quarters in close to 12 seasons (Last game Round 15 2010)
Matthew Primus- 12 goalless quarters in 2 seasons (Round 16 2010-Round 19 2012)
Ken Hinkley- 41 goalless quarters
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Mikey13G said:
John Cahill- 8 goalless quarters in 2 seasons
Mark Williams- 41 goalless quarters in close to 12 seasons (Last game Round 15 2010)
Matthew Primus- 12 goalless quarters in 2 seasons (Round 16 2010-Round 19 2012)
Ken Hinkley- 41 goalless quarters
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Most of Ken's in the past few years.
 
Mikey13G said:
John Cahill- 8 goalless quarters in 2 seasons
Mark Williams- 41 goalless quarters in close to 12 seasons (Last game Round 15 2010)
Matthew Primus- 12 goalless quarters in 2 seasons (Round 16 2010-Round 19 2012)
Ken Hinkley- 41 goalless quarters
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Worth remembering that in the latter half of Williams era and then the Primus era we had lists comprising ageing, soon-to-retire premiership/experienced players and a buttload of list cloggers, plus being impacted by the expansion and no finals. Hinkley has had lists that made finals (albeit inconsistently), including three preliminary finals and lists which some 'experts' sometimes described as incredible depth, sound drafting and trading and first picked players like Robbie GOAT, Love Boak, Fine Wines etc etc. Compare the Pear.
 

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Rising Power said:
Worth remembering that in the latter half of Williams era and then the Primus era we had lists comprising ageing, soon-to-retire premiership/experienced players and a buttload of list cloggers, plus being impacted by the expansion and no finals. Hinkley has had lists that made finals (albeit inconsistently), including three preliminary finals and lists which some 'experts' sometimes described as incredible depth, sound drafting and trading and first picked players like Robbie GOAT, Love Boak, Fine Wines etc etc. Compare the Pear.
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Ken definitely has the worst record. We all know that it's only a matter of time before we have another goalless quarter and Ken takes the record officially.
 
Six points is just working hardery to kick one goal, amirite? -Ken


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Mikey13G said:
Ken definitely has the worst record. We all know that it's only a matter of time before we have another goalless quarter and Ken takes the record officially.
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Ding ding ding! It happened!
 
Our inaccuracy at goal in the 2nd half could have cost us dearly, another goal less quarter in the last.

This is why imo Port have and will have limited success, it's been a part of our game under Hinkley, along with goal less quarters.
It's a shame that all the work hardery for longery gets wasted in front of the big sticks.
 
The best part about Ken's game plan is that it cures insomniacs everywhere - if you're having trouble sleeping, just turn on a Port replay. We play the most boring football in the AFL, and that's solely on the coach.
 
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