Does anyone else have question marks over Hird's career now?

[the_interloper]

I read a while back that Hird had a relationship with Shane Charters going back to his playing days. With everything that has happened and given Hird's apparent approval of substances "pushing the boundaries" I wonder what he actually took as a player? He was struck down by injury quite badly through the middle of his career as I recall, but seemed to get over them well and really did get back to his best.

Am I the only one who questions whether everything he did to get back on track was completely above board?

 

[footscore]

Justin Charles much?

 

[Smiling Buddha]

Yes and no.

 

[Adelaide Hawk]

Not his playing career ... just his personality.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

Dorothy Dixer for this board

 

[le dominateur]

Have always had doubts.

 

[Lester Burnham]

I'm staggered and shocked that anyone could suggest this. Hirdy went to Carter for dietary advice. Just like Shane Woewodin did.

 

[Pinnell]

100%

 

[clogged]

I'm staggered and shocked that anyone could suggest this. Hirdy went to Carter for dietary advice. Just like Shane Woewodin did.

What other signed photos did Charter have on his wall?

 

[mehow2g]

Long sleeved James hird

 

[blackcat]

I read a while back that Hird had a relationship with Shane Charters going back to his playing days. With everything that has happened and given Hird's apparent approval of substances "pushing the boundaries" I wonder what he actually took as a player? He was struck down by injury quite badly through the middle of his career as I recall, but seemed to get over them well and really did get back to his best.

Am I the only one who questions whether everything he did to get back on track was completely above board?

Andrew Rule might have answers for you.

Someone should have lectured James on the fall of Armstrong.

 

[blackcat]

Justin Charles much?

Justin Charles much more?

 

[Chameleon75]

What other signed photos did Charter have on his wall?

Don't ask uncomfortable questions about his trophy wall.

 

[Ron]

There is no doubt that an * should be placed over his entire playing career. Wouldn't surprise me one bit if he was using drugs in his playing days.

The man has no integrity, and has shown he doesn't care about other people or the game, and he will do anything to win.

 

[TerryWallet]

Don't ask uncomfortable questions about his trophy wall.

That trophy wall is why i have my doubts about the AFL having the stomach to abide by any impending infractions.

 

[Albert Ross]

With no testing for EPO (for example) I would be surprised if large numbers of players were using it, or other non-detectable substances. If one of them was Hird, he would have plenty of company from all the clubs.

 

[Suma Magic]

No way. Just pure speculation. Regardless of his failure as a coach, he is untainted as a player IMO.

Former Essendon Champion James Hird.

 

[blackcat]

That trophy wall is why i have my doubts about the AFL having the stomach to abide by any impending infractions.

shane charter should really be awarded an honourary brownlow. like michele ferrari, preparatore to the stars. its like dancing with the stars, but instead of coke, its epo and testosterone.

 

[blackcat]

No way. Just pure speculation. Regardless of his failure as a coach, he is untainted as a player IMO.

Former Essendon Champion James Hird.

http://m.heraldsun.com.au/news/opin...-the-footy-great/story-fni0ffyu-1226690768659

no speculation. there is a record. charter. bulking up to 100kg in the mid-late 90s.

 

[thetank]

Hate all these dirty smears about James.

No question marks over Hird's playing career, he could barely make it onto the park at the best of times, such was his lack of durability.

 

[Masto]

I remember it being reported that he had a possible career-ending ankle injury. Then he magically recovered from it and actually came back better. That was really the only thing that made me suspicious.

 

[blackcat]

Hate all these dirty smears about James.

No question marks over Hird's playing career, he could barely make it onto the park at the best of times, such was his lack of durability.

can be a confirmation bias. but often PEDs will just rip your body apart, not allow you to get on the field with the supercharged engine. but they also can be signigicantly beneficial for rehab and returning from injury? again, confirmation bias, but with an alternative pov.

 

[adelaidecrows]

I think I do. If he went down this path just because he believed Collingwood were doing this, imagine what he did as a player to get to the top. I am not saying he did anything bad as a player, I am just stating we cant rule it out based on recent events.

 

[I am Jack]

Should be stripped of his brownlow, so should Jobe.

AFL is a joke.

 

[thetank]

Should be stripped of his brownlow, so should Jobe.

AFL is a joke.

Jesus, good thing you're not Andrew Demetriou. If you'd strip Hird of his Brownlow based on current evidence, you would have deregistered 3/4 of Essendon and banished the remainder to the Northern Territory league.

Agree about stripping Jobe, he is a drug user (whether deliberate or not).