Review Colgate Young Guns vs Vic Metro, Sat 7/5 @ 4.30pm, vs Vic Country, Sat 15/5 @ 1.30pm

[Smythe]

COLGATE YOUNG GUNS​

#	NAME	SURNAME	DOB	HT	COMMUNITY CLUB	NAB LEAGUE REGION / VFL CLUB
1	Massimo	D'Ambrossio	5-06-2003	178	Point Cook	Western Jets
2	Harvey	Gallagher	26-09-2003	177	Sandhurst	Bendigo Pioneers
3	Paddy	Cross	14-02-2003	181	Nar Nar Goon	Gippsland Power
4	Euriah	Hollard	11-03-2003	175	Newtown & Chilwell	Geelong Falcons
5	Patrick	Dozzi	27-06-2003	185	Montmorency	Northern Knights
6	Tyler	Norton	8-05-2003	184	Wangaratta Magpies	Murray Bushrangers
7	Oskar	Faulkhead	11-02-2003	179	Wentworth	Bendigo Pioneers
8	Hamish	Sinnott	25-11-2003	186	Camperdown FC	GWV Rebels
9	Max	Walton	6-11-2003	182	Phillip Island	Gippsland Power
10	Jamieson	Ballantyne	16-04-2003	183	Portland FC	GWV Rebels
11	Charlie	Molan	23-01-2003	187	Mount Clear	GWV Rebels / Williamstown
12	Zavier	Maher	5-05-2002	185	Shepparton United	Carlton VFL
13	Lachlan	Carrigan	9-12-2002	191	Hampton Rovers	Richmond VFL
14	Hugo	Hall-Kahan	22-09-2003	188	Old Haileybury	Sandringham Dragons
15	Jed	Rule	10-06-2003	191	Box Hill Hawks	Oakleigh Chargers
16	Tyreece	Leiu	14-04-2003	194	Rowville FC	Eastern Ranges
17	Jai	Culley	24-02-2003	193	Langwarrin FC	Dandenong Stingrays
20	Ryan	Eyers	22-04-2003	198	Corowa Rutherglen	Murray Bushrangers
22	Jerome	Lawrence	18-07-2003	196	Blackburn	Oakleigh Chargers
24	Samuel	Grant	4-04-2003	199	Old Carey	Northern Knights
26	Fletcher	Hart	1-07-2003	200	Albury	Murray Bushrangers
27	Toby	Murray	3-11-2003	200	Wangaratta Rovers	Murray Bushrangers
28	Max	Ramsden	19-04-2003	202	Old Melbournians	Sandringham Dragons

VICTORIA METRO U18​

#	NAME	SURNAME	DOB	HT	COMMUNITY CLUB/SCHOOL	NAB LEAGUE REGION
1	Mason	Helleren	03-02-04	172	South Croydon	Eastern Ranges
2	Jason	McCormick	11-02-04	174	Eltham/Box Hill SC	Northern Knights
3	Josh	Bennetts	09-08-04	178	Rowville/Rowville	Eastern Ranges
4	Cam	Nyko	25-11-05	178	Healesville/Mount Lilydale	Eastern Ranges
5	Kai	Windsor	27-01-04	179	Lysterfield/Rowville Sports Academy	Eastern Ranges
6	Cameron	Kizan	03-06-04	181	Point Cook/Maribyrnong Sports Academy	Western Jets
7	Charlie	Clarke	04-01-04	182	Port Melbourne Colts	Sandringham Dragons
8	Paul	Pascu	20-08-04	183	Oak Park/Penola	Calder Cannons
10	Harry	Sheezel	13-10-04	184	Ajax/Mount Scopus College	Sandringham Dragons
11	Caleb	Windsor	09-06-05	184	Lysterfield/Rowville	Eastern Ranges
12	Mitchell	Rowe	26-05-04	186	Mordialloc Braeside/Parkdale SC	Sandringham Dragons
14	Ben	Hempel	07-06-04	187	Mordialloc Braeside/St Bede's College	Sandringham Dragons
15	Callum	Verrell	22-04-04	187	Lysterfield/St Joseph College	Eastern Ranges
16	Jack	Newitt	13-02-03	189	Sunbury Lions	Calder Cannons
17	Nate	Caddy	14-07-05	191	Yarrambat/Parade College	Northern Knights
18	Jack	Chubb	26-02-04	194	Montmorency/Box Hill SC	Northern Knights
19	Jackson	McMenamin	29-03-04	195	Hillside	Western Jets
20	Riley	Weathrill	21-11-05	195	East Ringwood/Ringwood SC	Eastern Ranges
21	Dane	Harvey	10-05-04	197	Fitzroy/Maribyrnong College	Northern Knights
22	Lewis	Hayes	17-12-04	197	Lysterfield/Rowville Sports Academy	Eastern Ranges
23	Will	Green	08-09-05	202	Northcote/Thornbury High	Northern Knights
24	Hudson	O'Keefe	16-12-04	202	Camberwell Sharks/Camberwell High	Oakleigh Chargers
25	Clay	Tucker	09-08-04	203	Rowville/St Joseph College	Eastern Ranges

 

[pushintheback]

There's probably about 10-15 kids missing from Metro due to APS/AGSV commitments

25 kids are missing. 50 are in the VM squad.

 

[WCE_Talk]

Who do you guys think would be a good MSD choice for West Coast? I only really know a bit about Ramsden


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[Smythe]

Who do you guys think would be a good MSD choice for West Coast? I only really know a bit about Ramsden


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Depends on what you are looking for. Im guessing, anything.
I jest, if you need a big mid Jai Culley would be a good one.
But WCE usually and may go for local talent.

 

[Schtinker]

I'd hate to see what BT would end up calling #7 for the Colgate Young Guns.

 

[RedmanWasHere]

I'd hate to see what BT would end up calling #7 for the Colgate Young Guns.

"Boyd from the centre square."

 

[pushintheback]

Reposting from the 2023 cohort board.

I only watched the last qtr of the young guns v vm game and during that time no 2005 stood out. What were the first 3 qtrs like For the 2005 born? I heard C. Windsor was good early?

 

[eDPS]

Reposting from the 2023 cohort board.

I only watched the last qtr of the young guns v vm game and during that time no 2005 stood out. What were the first 3 qtrs like For the 2005 born? I heard C. Windsor was good early?

I thought Caddy was the pick of the 05 bunch

 

[PocketRocket08]

Reposting from the 2023 cohort board.

I only watched the last qtr of the young guns v vm game and during that time no 2005 stood out. What were the first 3 qtrs like For the 2005 born? I heard C. Windsor was good early?

I went to the game last night. Both Windsor boys were good early but not really sighted in second half.
Hempel was probably best for VM
Sheezel kicked 5 which was solid couple lucky ones but his fwd craft exceptional. Did get caught holding the ball a few times. This was what stood out the most as the YG looked bigger and stronger and that year or two development shows.
Pascu tried hard physically didn’t get much of the footy though.
Clarke was creative with ball in hand he might of had 20 odd possessions with a few i50’s a hand in 3/4 goal assist.
Of the 05’s I like the look of Caddy raw but has long arms presents well and good leg speed.
For YG culley looks a real player. I’d be shocked if he isn’t afl listed this year.
D’Ambrossio was very good, uses ball well,
Gallagher with 5/6 goals was good and benefited from his teams dominance.
Ramsden was ok kicked a couple of goals.
Molan, murry, Maher & faulkhead all had some good moments.
Hudson O’keefe I must mention also had some good moments taking some nice marks and was great at the stoppages with his hit outs.
I’ll just finish saying I think VM boys did fairly well considering I think probably 15 first choice players were not in the team. That young guns side would account for full strength SA & WA state teams in my opinion.

 

[PocketRocket08]

I thought Caddy was the pick of the 05 bunch

Agree!!

 

[pushintheback]

I went to the game last night. Both Windsor boys were good early but not really sighted in second half.
Hempel was probably best for VM
Sheezel kicked 5 which was solid couple lucky ones but his fwd craft exceptional. Did get caught holding the ball a few times. This was what stood out the most as the YG looked bigger and stronger and that year or two development shows.
Pascu tried hard physically didn’t get much of the footy though.
Clarke was creative with ball in hand he might of had 20 odd possessions with a few i50’s a hand in 3/4 goal assist.
Of the 05’s I like the look of Caddy raw but has long arms presents well and good leg speed.
For YG culley looks a real player. I’d be shocked if he isn’t afl listed this year.
D’Ambrossio was very good, uses ball well,
Gallagher with 5/6 goals was good and benefited from his teams dominance.
Ramsden was ok kicked a couple of goals.
Molan, murry, Maher & faulkhead all had some good moments.
Hudson O’keefe I must mention also had some good moments taking some nice marks and was great at the stoppages with his hit outs.
I’ll just finish saying I think VM boys did fairly well considering I think probably 15 first choice players were not in the team. That young guns side would account for full strength SA & WA state teams in my opinion.

Nice wrap up. I’ll try watch the game today in between Mother’s Day duties
This game should be played when all players are availabl, not so sure the YG would beat a full strength VM side.

 

[staffonly]

How’d Cam Nyko play please?

 

[Mutineer]

I went to the game last night. Both Windsor boys were good early but not really sighted in second half.
Hempel was probably best for VM
Sheezel kicked 5 which was solid couple lucky ones but his fwd craft exceptional. Did get caught holding the ball a few times. This was what stood out the most as the YG looked bigger and stronger and that year or two development shows.
Pascu tried hard physically didn’t get much of the footy though.
Clarke was creative with ball in hand he might of had 20 odd possessions with a few i50’s a hand in 3/4 goal assist.
Of the 05’s I like the look of Caddy raw but has long arms presents well and good leg speed.
For YG culley looks a real player. I’d be shocked if he isn’t afl listed this year.
D’Ambrossio was very good, uses ball well,
Gallagher with 5/6 goals was good and benefited from his teams dominance.
Ramsden was ok kicked a couple of goals.
Molan, murry, Maher & faulkhead all had some good moments.
Hudson O’keefe I must mention also had some good moments taking some nice marks and was great at the stoppages with his hit outs.
I’ll just finish saying I think VM boys did fairly well considering I think probably 15 first choice players were not in the team. That young guns side would account for full strength SA & WA state teams in my opinion.

I think the last sentence is a step too far in reality, can't speak for WA but there's some pretty decent talent running around in the SANFL still these days including a fair smattering of ex AFL listed players.

 

[Mutineer]

Definitely had some nice moments during the game.

How’d Cam Nyko play please?

 

[staffonly]

Definitely had some nice moments during the game.

Thank you

 

[PocketRocket08]

I think the last sentence is a step too far in reality, can't speak for WA but there's some pretty decent talent running around in the SANFL still these days including a fair smattering of ex AFL listed players.

I meant the u18 state teams not sanfl or wafl senior teams

 

[PocketRocket08]

How’d Cam Nyko play please?

Looking back over notes he was another that did impress actually. Very similar player to Archie Roberts from sandy.

 

[slugger68]

Will take a squiz at Jai Culley, sounds like exactly what we need from the MSD

Why did Mitchell Moschetti not play

 

[gippslandlocal]

Why did Mitchell Moschetti not play

Came off late in game vs Bendigo with shoulder injury. May have kept him out. He's been playing terrific football in NAB league so far, would have been good to see him perform in this game

 

[Sphynx]

Jai Culley the standout for me so far, Essendon will be kicking themselves if they can’t get an MSD pick being 3rd bottom as Culley is exactly the player they need.

I don't think pick 3 will be enough personally.

I think he goes to North or the Eagles, with the other taking Derksen.

Personally see WC going for Derksen being a WA kid and North taking Culley.

Regardless of needs, you don't pass on a 193cm 88kg midfielder that can kick, tackle and impact the scoreboard.

 

[eth-dog]

I don't think pick 3 will be enough personally.

I think he goes to North or the Eagles, with the other taking Derksen.

Personally see WC going for Derksen being a WA kid and North taking Culley.

Regardless of needs, you don't pass on a 193cm 88kg midfielder that can kick, tackle and impact the scoreboard.

Wouldn't North have a look at Leiu as a key defender?

 

[Sphynx]

Wouldn't North have a look at Leiu as a key defender?

Culley has played 3 games this season.

He absolutely wiped the floor with Eastern in Rnd 1 and despite it being a weakened Metro side (it was still a representative side and a step up from your average Nab League side) he kicked 4 goals in a half from midfield over the weekend.

If he continues the same form for the next 3-4 weeks prior to the MSD, he's getting picked at #1. He's the same size as Bontempelli, they don't come along often in National Drafts, let alone MSD's. Especially one that's been described as having abnormally good footskills for a tall midfielder.

In fact, I think he'd go in the first round of the draft at the end of the year in his current form given his size, defensive ability, footskills and natural goal-scoring ability from midfield, being a former half forward.

Likewise, I think Derksen looms as a top 25 ND Harry Taylor type prospect, given his growth spurt and agility.

 

[eDPS]

Wouldn't North have a look at Leiu as a key defender?

I think Ryan Eyers is a better option as a pure key defender at 198cm.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Culley has played 3 games this season.

He absolutely wiped the floor with Eastern in Rnd 1 and despite it being a weakened Metro side (it was still a representative side and a step up from your average Nab League side) he kicked 4 goals in a half from midfield over the weekend.

If he continues the same form for the next 3-4 weeks prior to the MSD, he's getting picked at #1. He's the same size as Bontempelli, they don't come along often in National Drafts, let alone MSD's. Especially one that's been described as having abnormally good footskills for a tall midfielder.

In fact, I think he'd go in the first round of the draft at the end of the year in his current form given his size, defensive ability, footskills and natural goal-scoring ability from midfield, being a former half forward.

Likewise, I think Derksen looms as a top 25 ND Harry Taylor type prospect, given his growth spurt and agility.

Do you guys have a pick in he MSD?

 

[Sphynx]

Do you guys have a pick in he MSD?

Miller Bergman is out for the season and Tom Lynch is on our rookie list and can be retired, we can have two if we want.

 

[slugger68]

Came off late in game vs Bendigo with shoulder injury. May have kept him out. He's been playing terrific football in NAB league so far, would have been good to see him perform in this game

he was listed as no’s 5 on original squad
Will he play next game vs VIC Country