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    Research Data gaps + big projects

    Team selected positions are largely meaningless these days, but can be interesting historically - just finished this today. Hawthorn's selected positions for all games - 2nd tab sortable to see who has been in each position most. Bit of fun. (For clarity I've named players as INT only when...
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    Review Round 6, 2024: Footscray Bulldogs v Box Hill Hawks, 5 May 2024, 11.05am @ Mission Whitten Oval

    Hammy for Thorp. Must be close to returning.
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    Research Data gaps + big projects

    Ha yes... and while compiling this was where I discovered the story of Wally Bristowe - Hawthorn sub 1942 Round 14. Originally named as an emergency, a couple of late withdrawals meant he was named as sub on the morning of the game. However on the day he couldn't get leave from the army and so...
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    Research Data gaps + big projects

    Non Senior Players for Hawthorn (Listed, Unlisted, Training etc)
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    Research Data gaps + big projects

    HFC Reserves/Seconds
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    Research Data gaps + big projects

    HFC 3rds/U19s
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    Research Data gaps + big projects

    All my stuff is VERY Hawthorn focused, so probably not much value to the collective here. But I guess some of it might plug a gap or two so I'll pop some stuff in this thread if it looks like it might relate to other projects mentioned here. Starting with Hawthorn Subs
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    Resource List thread - Inaccuracy in official records

    St Kilda Qtr x Qtr score correction - 1986 Rnd 15 Haw v StK All online (and historical paper-based) references have St Kilda's (QT, HT, 3QT and Full Time) scores for this game as - 2.5 17 4.5 29 4.5 29 5.8 38 I've uploaded the first 50-odd minutes below. St Kilda score 2.4 in the first...
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    Resource List thread - Inaccuracy in official records

    1986 R13 Haw v NM behinds correction - For Hawthorn - All references have Terry Wallace kicking no behinds, and 3 Rushed behinds included in Hawthorn's score. Per below vid, Wallace kicks 1 behind. All other player's behind tallies align, and there are 2 Rushed behinds for Hawthorn. For...
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    Review Round 5, 2024: Box Hill Hawks v Sydney Swans, 28 April 2024, 12.05pm @ BHCO

    Ramsden being a late-in for Hawthorn was not planned - it caught Box Hill out, they had to replace him with Josh Tovey who played local footy yesterday.
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    Resource List thread - Inaccuracy in official records

    1986 R12 Carl v Haw Behinds Correction For Carlton - All online references have Wayne Blackwell kicking 1 behind and Jim Buckley 1 behind. Per below video, Blackwell kicks 2. Buckley doesn't kick any behinds in this game. For Hawthorn - All online references have Rodney Eade kicking 1...
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    Resource List thread - Inaccuracy in official records

    1986 2nd SF Behind Correction - All records have Hawthorn's Ken Judge credited with one behind, and Richard Loveridge none. Loveridge kicks 1 per below video, Judge doesn't kick any. Summary - 1986 2nd SF Haw v Carl - Richard Loveridge plus 1 behind, Ken Judge minus 1 behind.
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    Review Round 4, 2024: Box Hill Hawks v North Melbourne, 20 April 2024, 2.05pm @ BHCO

    Good - was a clash with HFC, now it's the day before. Bad - will have to hold out a carryover emergency yet again.
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    Review Round 4, 2024: Box Hill Hawks v North Melbourne, 20 April 2024, 2.05pm @ BHCO

    Great day at the footy. Geez VFL footy is a pleasure. Box Hill's small brigade all brilliant today. And Ben Cavarra is ready to go next week!
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    Resource List thread - Inaccuracy in official records

    1986 Rnd 9 Geel v Haw behinds correction All references have Ken Judge kicking 2 behinds and Michael Tuck none. Hawthorn's 4th behind was incorrectly credited to Judge instead of the other long-sleeve wearer Tuck. All Hawthorn's 5 behinds are in the below video. Summary - 1986 Rnd 9 Geel...
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    Resource List thread - Inaccuracy in official records

    1986 R07 Haw v Syd - Behinds correction for Swans All references have Paul Hawke kicking 3 behinds and Barry Mitchell 1. They both kick 2. All other scores align. Summary - 1986 Rnd 7 Haw v Syd - Barry Mitchell plus 1 behind, Paul Hawke minus 1 behind.
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    Review Round 3, 2024: Gold Coast Suns v Box Hill Hawks, 13 April 2024, 2.30pm @ People First Stadium

    Do we know if he and Reeves are entering concussion protocols?
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    Resource List thread - Inaccuracy in official records

    Behinds correction, 1986 Rnd 2 NM v Haw Inexplicable mess. All references have Hawthorn's behinds as follows - Buckenara 2 (correct) Byrne 2 (he kicks 1) DiPierdomenico 1 (correct) Handley 0 (he kicks 1) Judge 0 (he kicks 1) Kennedy 0 (he kicks 1) Loveridge 1 (he kicks 0) Robertson 1...
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    Resource List thread - Inaccuracy in official records

    1985 Rnd 4 Syd v Haw Swans behind correction - Sydney's 14th and final behind was credited to Brett Scott, when it should have been credited to Stephen Wright, per video below. Scott does not kick a behind in this game. Summary - 1985 Rnd 4 Syd v Haw - Stephen Wright plus 1 behind...
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    Resource List thread - Inaccuracy in official records

    I've still got the 2SF to go, so you never know.
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    Resource List thread - Inaccuracy in official records

    1985 R14 Haw v Ess Hawthorn scores all correct for once, but... Essendon Goal Correction! All references have Roger Merrett kicking 5 goals and Paul Vander Haar 1. The first goal in the below video (Essendon's 5th) was incorrectly awarded to Merrett. It looks pretty clear to me that it was...
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    Resource List thread - Inaccuracy in official records

    1985 Rnd 3 Ess v Haw All references have Leigh Matthews credited with zero behinds, with 1 Rushed for Hawthorn. Per video below, Matthews kicks 1, all other players' behinds align, there were no Rushed behinds for Hawthorn. All Essendon scores align. Summary - 1985 Rnd 3 Ess v Haw -...
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    Resource List thread - Inaccuracy in official records

    Amazing how bad the person responsible for recording Hawthorn's behinds was back in the 80s! They seemed to manage Hawthorn's opponents without problem most times. Bloody awful at doing the Hawks though. 1984 Qualifying Final Haw v Carl All references for this game, including the newspapers...
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    Resource List thread - Inaccuracy in official records

    Behinds correction 1984 Rnd 22 Haw v Geel All references for this game have the following - Leigh Matthews - 3 behinds (should be 4) Chris Langford - 2 behinds (should be 1) Michael McCarthy - 1 behind (should be 0) Rushed for Hawthorn by Geelong - 1 behind (should be 2) Richard Loveridge - 1...
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    No Oppo Supporters General AFL discussion and other club news

    Might explain us as well... ;) Weren't some of our players on the same trip with Gunston?
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    Resource List thread - Inaccuracy in official records

    Behinds correction 1984 R20 Syd v Haw All references for this game have Hawthorn's Russell Greene kicking 1 behind, Chris Langford kicking none, Ken Judge kicking 2, and 2 Rushed for Hawthorn. Per the below video, Chris Langford kicks a behind, and Ken Judge kicks 3. Russell Greene does not...
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    Resource List thread - Inaccuracy in official records

    Behinds correction 1984 R18 Haw v Carl All references for this game have Hawthorn's Ken Judge kicking 1 behind, and Rodney Eade kicking none. In the below video, Eade kicks a behind (under the interpretations of the day). Ken Judge does not score any behinds in this game at all. All other...
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    Player Watch 2024 Father-Son player watch - Ky Burgoyne and Ned Maginness

    Good. So he needs to send his son to Hawthorn to avoid a conflict of interest. ;)
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    Resource List thread - Inaccuracy in official records

    Another score correction - from 1984 Rnd 8 Carl v Haw. All references have 17.8 for Hawthorn's score at 3 qtr time in this game. I reckon it should be 17.9. Hawthorn begin the 3rd qtr on 13.6. As seen in the below video they kick 4.3 for the qtr (not 4.2). The video shows the scores for the...
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    Resource List thread - Inaccuracy in official records

    Oh you bet. Bloody glorious. It's such a different sport with the interpretation of so many rules being the polar opposite of now.
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