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Hard to find something that doesn’t exist. The interview Neil did which I posted is more realistic.

Yep, all I can see is Balme talking about his illness, also seems like they had to stand him down because it was affecting his work, like any good organisation would.
 

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What’s he supposed to say lol.

It was at a casual pre-season lunch hosted by Brendon Gale where Neil Balme, another key player from the Richmond premiership epoch, learned that his time at the club was about to come to an end.
In a conversation Balme described as briefly awkward, always caring but ultimately definitive, the Tigers CEO and his football boss Blair Hartley made it clear that season 2024 would be Balme’s last at the club.

Eavesdropping fellow diners at Richmond’s Rowena Parade Milk Bar would not have realised the significance of the conversation at first. Gale, Hartley and Balme have been part of a passing parade of Tigers’ staff and players at the cafe for years.
Breaking bread and drinking coffee, the Richmond bosses asked Balme about his health and well-being and plans for the future. They talked about how much he deserved a proper holiday. At some point, the penny dropped.

Balme, speaking exclusively to this masthead about the decision, said he had come to terms with his subtly enforced exit but admitted it had not sat comfortably with him for some days afterwards.
“I think they were making the point they want me to retire rather than move me on,” he said, “and in a sense that takes the pressure off all of us. For a day or two I did feel a little bit uncomfortable, but the reality is I’m out of the decision-making area, and it’s kind of like a changing of the guard.

“What they were saying was I’ve done my work at Richmond without any doubt. And while they have enormous respect for my relationship with the Richmond community the reality is I’ve been a bit crook and a bit weird.
“I’m not as strong mentally as I used to be, and I struggle with my emotions sometimes.”

Balme was diagnosed with epilepsy in 2020 after his first in a series of frightening seizures. Still very much a media frontman for the club and a highly effective conduit with sponsors, coterie groups and other heavy hitters, Balme was removed from the football department and its day-to-day processes in 2021 partly due to soft-cap constraints but remained an influential player in the Tigers’ fledgling AFLW program.

Although he was Melbourne coach when the teenaged Adem Yze was recruited to the Demons, Balme was not included in the coaching process to find Damien Hardwick’s replacement. He was not explicitly told, but it became clear over the pre-season he would no longer sit in the coaches’ box on match days.

“I’m not really part of match committee any more,” said Balme, “and they made a conscious decision not to have me involved [with Yze’s appointment] and I accepted that.”

A famously outspoken critic of the AFL and its processes, Balme, whose equally old-school football values have never prevented him having a positive impact on players and football departments, remains acutely self-aware about his diminishing role as a full-time football official in the era of increasing compliance.

“What I have to say doesn’t always suit them,” he observed of both club and head office. While Balme has a relationship with the new coach, “he doesn’t regularly come into my office and ask my advice”.
Gale, too, looks certain to depart Richmond to take over as inaugural chief of the new Tasmanian team, but he will ensure Balme receives a fitting send-off towards the end of 2024.

Whether he chooses to share his effective wisdom on a part-time basis with another club, work on another biography or share his stories as an after-dinner speaker, Balme will remain one of the game’s most fascinating and ultimately heroic characters.
After two premierships as a Richmond player and a successful coaching career at Norwood in the SANFL, Balme came close at Melbourne. He came close, too, on several occasions at the helm of Collingwood’s football operation. Sacked the first time, he moved to Geelong where the under-performing Cats won their first of three flags under his football stewardship.

Sacked the second time by the Magpies in late 2016 he moved to Richmond. If he could single out one key success over the past seven-and-a-half years it remains the drought-breaking 2017 premiership.
That came off the back of a 2016 review where Gale restructured the football department and placed Balme in charge and Peggy O’Neal fought significant political unrest. The only thing O’Neal’s board and the two separate groups of challengers agreed upon was that the club needed to bring back Neil Balme.

“I felt I had an impact,” he said. “I just encouraged them to do the things their values dictated. To make it simple. They were already doing a lot right. How I fitted in was terrific and in a sense it was easy because it felt like I was coming home.”
With so many key players going and gone from the Tigers’ premiership era, Balme still insists he holds no fears for the club which before 2017 had endured 37 years without a flag and for many of those years existed in a relative cultural wasteland.

“No I don’t,” he said. “I know people say this, but culturally they’ve never been in a better spot. Adem [Yze] and Tim [Livingstone] and Blair [Hartley] reflect the values and behaviours that they and others before them had put into place.
“It can always fall apart if you put the wrong people in of course, but I don’t see any danger of that happening here. There will be challenges on-field as we re-build but the attitude to training and the general feeling about the place is terrific.”

As he enters his 73rd year, Balme remains torn about his football future. He came close to leaving Richmond towards the end of 2021 when Mark Ricciuto led an Adelaide push seeking a football mentor for the relatively inexperienced new coach Matthew Nicksand his football boss Adam Kelly. But Balme’s medical specialist urged him not to make the geographic career change.
He calls Richmond home and sees his return for eight years as a football administrator and later ambassador and influencer at the club as his ultimate legacy. But he still believes he has something to offer.

“I’m not sure I’ll ever work full-time at a footy club again,” Balme said. “It’s a challenging job working in a footy club. They’re challenging places. But I’d love to keep helping others and in a lot of ways I’m ready for another challenge even if it’s on a consultancy basis.
“If I had to sum it up I can say I’ve come back to the club I called home for eight years, and we’ve had some success and everything comes to an end.
“This is just another part of the changing of the guard. I might have been a bit disappointed for about five minutes but in the end in their position I probably would have done the same thing.”
Football historians and Richmond supporters will look back and debate the final domino, which fell to end the Tigers’ premiership era.

Some will point to 2022, when a grieving Dustin Martin lost his football appetite and the club lost him for the best part of a season. Others to 2023 and the not-so-pleasant May Sunday morning when Hardwick told Gale he, too, had lost the hunger – at least for Richmond. Or in August, when a tearful Trent Cotchin and Jack Riewoldt walked from the MCG for the final time in Tiger jumpers. Premiership president Peggy O’Neal had stepped away in 2022 with Gale set to follow by the end this season.
But history should also register the recent February lunch down the road from Tigerland w


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The Balme situation never sat well with me how he was told by Gale and Blair something not right. Maybe not as a full time staff , but he would be so beneficial even as advisory on the footy department.
 
Hard to find something that doesn’t exist. The interview Neil did which I posted is more realistic.
Handled poorly for me the situation. I'll say since Hartley and Livingstone took over standards dropped bigtime and they have made some critical mistakes.
 
First thing I'm looking at who's in charge of the footy department Hartley and Livingstone. Have a look at fitness conditioning and medical department 2 years in row we look unfit and injuries reoccurring poor rehabilitation Graham last night etc. Recruiting chasing Kosi on 3 year deal and giving the farm up for Hooper and Taranto yeah Dimma wanted them who approved it and made the deal. They need some accountability.The fact is since they took over from Balmey standards have dropped bigtime.
 
I thought things looked really promising when we beat Sydney.
Great pressure and playing through the corridor.
Obviously injuries have had a huge impact.
But last night makes me question if Yze has what it takes.
We should have improved from the poor performance against Freo. We had important players coming back in and surely a response from the players would have been expected .
The injuries last night came after the game was completely gone.
Post match Yze said he couldn’t fault the effort.
I hope that was just said to protect the players. Otherwise he is deluded.
Can’t any semblance of a game plan other than endlessly going down the boundary and kicking long to contests which end with us being out marked.
If the intention is to “win the hearts” of the players first , their hearts will be broken by 100 point plus losses and the wooden spoon.
 
Based on what it was affecting his work ??.

Just how I took it when I read but. I could be wrong, but its starting to sound like he is losing his marbles a bit.

He played a big part of our success, but he is also a 73 year old man, if we want a changing of guard maybe weening him out too isn’t a bad thing.
 
Just how I took it when I read but. I could be wrong, but its starting to sound like he is losing his marbles a bit.

He played a big part of our success, but he is also a 73 year old man, if we want a changing of guard maybe weening him out too isn’t a bad thing.
Maybe, but not liking what I see from Livingstone and Hartley through standards dropped need to lift their game.
 
Maybe, but not liking what I see from Livingstone and Hartley through standards dropped need to lift their game.
The fish rots from the head
 
He will eventually I reckon, he is waiting for respect of the players before he starts doing that s**t (as he said a few weeks ago)

Better than being a David Noble type and abusing players who don't respect you, we all saw how that turned out.
Was thinking about Noble as well.
What if it was that he had the same approach as what Yze has, till he couldn’t stomach it anymore and blew up at the group?

If you want players that refuse to negotiate with themselves, who refuse to be defeated in their mindset or to produce something less than their best effort as often as they can for as long as they can.
If you want players to not allow a standard of effort lower than the commitment they’ve probably voiced to the coach and to each other.

How do you create that environment if your not prepared to be an example of it?
 

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I’ve got no issue with Yze as coach, the club is quite unstable atm and there’s still question marks over Hartley & Livingstone positions/commitment

Rutten is only there because he was dimmas mate, gone backwards since his return, Teague gotta go too

Club is a mess not just on field


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I’ve got no issue with Yze as coach, the club is quite unstable atm and there’s still question marks over Hartley & Livingstone positions/commitment

Rutten is only there because he was dimmas mate, gone backwards since his return, Teague gotta go too

Club is a mess not just on field


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Rutten and Teague need to go. Then go out and get someone worthwhile.
 
I thought things looked really promising when we beat Sydney.
Great pressure and playing through the corridor.
Obviously injuries have had a huge impact.
But last night makes me question if Yze has what it takes.
We should have improved from the poor performance against Freo. We had important players coming back in and surely a response from the players would have been expected .
The injuries last night came after the game was completely gone.
Post match Yze said he couldn’t fault the effort.
I hope that was just said to protect the players. Otherwise he is deluded.
Can’t any semblance of a game plan other than endlessly going down the boundary and kicking long to contests which end with us being out marked.
If the intention is to “win the hearts” of the players first , their hearts will be broken by 100 point plus losses and the wooden spoon.
Spot on.
The effort was putrid. In fact there was no effort.
 
Listen to the presser, either Yze is a different man behind closed doors, or he is way too soft to be a head coach.

You cannot tell me he is happy with the effort they put out there last night. He said he can't fault that. Says we might be "trying to hard" with our missed tackles and slipping over. Seriously? Wtf is this guy on about?

Praises Bolton in the second half, has no issues with him being frustrated and demonstrative against a kid.

First time so far I'm genuinely worried we've appointed the wrong guy.
 
Listen to the presser, either Yze is a different man behind closed doors, or he is way too soft to be a head coach.

You cannot tell me he is happy with the effort they put out there last night. He said he can't fault that. Says we might be "trying to hard" with our missed tackles and slipping over. Seriously? Wtf is this guy on about?

Praises Bolton in the second half, has no issues with him being frustrated and demonstrative against a kid.

First time so far I'm genuinely worried we've appointed the wrong guy.
He missed out on a lot of jobs
 
Listen to the presser, either Yze is a different man behind closed doors, or he is way too soft to be a head coach.

You cannot tell me he is happy with the effort they put out there last night. He said he can't fault that. Says we might be "trying to hard" with our missed tackles and slipping over. Seriously? Wtf is this guy on about?

Praises Bolton in the second half, has no issues with him being frustrated and demonstrative against a kid.

First time so far I'm genuinely worried we've appointed the wrong guy.
I agree. It felt like he was watching a different match to the one we all saw. Perhaps he said something different behind closed doors, I hope so otherwise he’s not going to be successful unfortunately
 

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