NWO/Illuminati US politics - Pt 3

[Kurve]

Here is US Politics Pt 2

The 2024 US presidential election is on Tuesday, 5 November 2024. The winner will serve a term of four years in the White House, starting in January 2025.

 

[Malifice]

The hilarious part about that is the Russian people hate Putin because the war is taking its toll.

Thanks to Russian misinformation and disinformation (the Russians run their own internet, and foreign internet and social media is banned) alongside Russian police State imprisoning (or flat out murdering) people who dissent about the government or the war, its unlikely the people rebel against Putin any time soon.

Unless the economy goes totally **** up. Because (as always) 'its about the economy stupid'.

Keep turning the screws economically. Now is not the time to stop, it's the time to ramp up trade sanctions.

They love love love Trump because he is seen as the only one who can end the war.

Of course, the Russians love Trump. Thats why Putin ordered the Kremlin to engage in a complex program of online disinformation (and hacking, along with conventional espionage) with the goal to help him get elected:

Project Lakhta

The reason for that is because Trump has promised to pull funding from NATO (Russia's largest adversary) which helps Russia, hand over half of Ukraine to Russia (the reason Russia went into Ukraine in the first place) which helps Russia, and to engage in a Trade war with China (undermining a rival to Russian power) which helps Russia.

Trump is good for Russia. Why wouldn't they love him?

 

[EasternTiger]

According to mal’s posts, the strategy of the Democrats was to agitate so a war kicks off, make as much money as possible for the MIC then wait for it impoverish and traumatise 150 million people so they eventually rebel against their evil leader.

While all these 4 D chess moves are playing out, they further assisted by trying their best to push a dictator to the point he is considering using nuclear weapons.

This is the genius level democrat strategising your hard earned tax dollars are paying for.

You’re welcome America.

 

[Malifice]

According to mal’s posts, the strategy of the Democrats was to agitate so a war kicks off, make as much money as possible for the MIC then wait for it impoverish and traumatise 150 million people so they eventually rebel against their evil leader.

Thats not want I said (or even inferred) and only an idiot would think as much (or read what I said as asserting as much).

Stop talking shit, and actually try and talk about the situation we have here instead of trolling.

The Democrats have nothing to do with this. Putin had been building up to invade Ukraine for nearly a decade before he finally did it. It wouldnt matter who was in charge of the USA when he pulled the trigger (Democrat or Republican).

Heck, seeing as Trumps policy seems to be 'give Putin what he wants, and avoid any confrontation with Putin' explain to me how a Trump administration deters Putin from invading Ukraine (or anywhere else)?

 

[EasternTiger]

Elon considering buying MXNBC.

Good.

 

[EasternTiger]

Thats not want I said (or even inferred).

The Democrats have nothing to do with this. Putin had been building up to invade Ukraine for nearly a decade before he finally did it. It wouldnt matter who was in charge of the USA when he pulled the trigger (Democrat or Republican).

Heck, seeing as Trumps policy seems to be 'give Putin what he wants, and avoid any confrontation with Putin' explain to me how a Trump administration deters Putin from invading Ukraine (or anywhere else)?

You said a few posts ago Russia is financially on its knees.

Fair to suggest they will take a break from invading any other countries.

Lol I like how in your head the democrats have done nothing wrong here.

Must be nice to live in la la land just off with the fairies.

 

[Malifice]

You said a few posts ago Russia is financially on its knees.

Not yet, but they're trending in the wrong direction for them (and fast):

Lol I like how in your head the democrats have done nothing wrong here.

Im talking about Russia (and Trumps policy of ending economic sanctions, destabilizing NATO, and giving Russia exactly what they came to Ukraine to get).

What do the Democrats have to do with anything? They imposed the sanctions (which are now starting to bite) but that's about it.

What do you think they've 'done wrong' with respect to Putin and Ukraine?

 

[EasternTiger]

Not yet, but they're trending in the wrong direction for them (and fast):





Im talking about Russia (and Trumps policy of ending economic sanctions, destabilizing NATO, and giving Russia exactly what they came to Ukraine to get).

What do the Democrats have to do with anything? They imposed the sanctions (which are now starting to bite) but that's about it.

What do you think they've 'done wrong' with respect to Putin and Ukraine?

Whatever.

At the end of the day, Trump is the only one who can clean up this mess.

We can agree on this.

Only a ****en idiot would think it’s a good idea to push a nuclear superpower to the brink of economic collapse.

You conceded the Russians are broke. New wars cost money.

Trump will win a Nobel peace prize for brokering the peace deal thus saving the world from nuclear devastation.

Russia and Ukraine can then start to rebuild and once again become responsible and productive global citizens.

The End.

P.S. Then the great man can go back to focussing on those juicy tariffs.

 

[Malifice]

At the end of the day, Trump is the only one who can clean up this mess.

No, he's not.

Only a ****en idiot would think it’s a good idea to push a nuclear superpower to the brink of economic collapse.

Only a ****ing idiot thinks it's a good idea to appease a warmongering European leader, seeking to annex a weaker neighbor, by letting him annex that neighbor.

Did you learn nothing from WW2? Appeasement does not work.

You conceded the Russians are broke. New wars cost money.

Trump is going to end the war (apparently) ending Russias war time economy and ending US financial sanctions.

Freeing up more money (and Russias Army) for Russia to engage in another war.

Trump will win a Nobel peace prize for brokering the peace deal thus saving the world from nuclear devastation.

He's not saving anyone from nuclear devastation. He's pushing us closer to the brink.

Russia and Ukraine can then start to rebuild and once again become responsible and productive global citizens.

Valdimir Putin is not (and never will be) a responsible and productive global citizen.

Then the great man can go back to focussing on those juicy tariffs.

Why do you want to pay more money for stuff?

Genuine question, what good do you think those tariffs will do for you (or for Australia) other than increase the price you and I (and every other Australian) pays for stuff?

You've agreed they're going to cost you money and that things will get more expensive (you agree with the unanimous consensus of the worlds economists).

So how do they help Australia, or even just help you personally?

 

[EasternTiger]

Oh no!

The doomsday clock

 

[Malifice]

Oh no!

The doomsday clock

Yeah. Prepared by 20 odd Nobel Laureates.

But you didnt answer my question; how do the Tariffs of the USA help Australia, or Australians?

They're going to make things more expensive for us, and slow down world Trade. They're going to make companies that manufacture shit in China (and the US Government) a lot of money. We know that.

But in what way are they a good thing for us?

 

[Malifice]

EasternTiger

iPhones are manufactured primarily in China. A 50 percent tariff on their manufacture will see Apple increase the price of iPhones by around 20 percent (globally) with the increased premium paid by customers in the USA, Europe, Australia and the rest of the World offsetting the increased cost of manufacture.

How does that help Australia or Australians, other than iPhones costing more now?

Explain to me how the tariffs imposed by the USA are a good thing for Australians.

You seem to support them for some reason, and I'd love to know your reasons why.

 

[EasternTiger]

I think we all need a break from the iPhone.

Tariff it.

 

[zill]

iPhones are manufactured primarily in China. A 50 percent tariff on their manufacture will see Apple increase the price of iPhones by around 20 percent (globally) with the increased premium paid by customers in the USA, Europe, Australia and the rest of the World offsetting the increased cost of manufacture.

How does that help Australia or Australians, other than iPhones costing more now?

Explain to me how the tariffs imposed by the USA are a good thing for Australians.

You seem to support them for some reason, and I'd love to know your reasons why.

The other day you were explaining tariffs as being paid by the importer, now the manufacturer is paying it. Which is it?

 

[zill]

On the subject of tariffs, why is there still a "luxury car tax" applied to cars imported here? No cars have been made in Australia for years.

 

[Satan]

On the subject of tariffs, why is there still a "luxury car tax" applied to cars imported here? No cars have been made in Australia for years.

Taxes generally dont get axed particularly when there aimed at the wealthy

 

[Malifice]

The other day you were explaining tariffs as being paid by the importer, now the manufacturer is paying it. Which is it?

What?

No, the manufacturer pays the tariff, but they also raise the price of their goods to compensate (meaning the consumer effectively pays the tariff and is the one actually out of pocket).

Take (for example) Apple and iPhones (which are manufactured primarily in China).

The iPhone 13, priced at $800 USD, costs Apple about $526 to produce. When considering other expenses like R&D, marketing, and administrative costs, the profit per iPhone 13 is approximately $161, translating to a 20% profit margin.

Now assume Trump imposes a 50 percent tariff on iPhones.

The tariff applies to production costs, and not to final RRP. Apple, now have a roughly 260 USD tariff to pay to the US Government for every iPhone they want to import into the USA.

Bearing this in mind, does Apple:

1: Pay the 260 USD tariff, and keep iPhones priced exactly the same, selling each phone at a 100-dollar loss.
2: Pay the 260 USD tariff, and increase the RRP of the iPhones by 260 dollars, keeping their profit exactly the same, and offloading the tariff to the consumer?

The correct answer is 2. Well to be more accurate, the correct answer is a variant of 2.

In reality, Apple would increase the GLOBAL RRP to soften the price hike in the States, and spread the cost increase among all consumers, not just in the USA (after all, internet shopping exists, so the price hike HAS to be global).

Or in other words, instead of iPhones costing 260 dollars more in the USA (and the USA alone, while being cheaper everywhere else) Apple would hike the global price up by around 120 dollars, on all phones regardless of where they're sold.

Samsung simply do the same (their phones are also made in China, as are nearly every single other phone). Next flagship release, the prices increase by 120 dollars or so from the previous generation.

The Corporations profits remain exactly the same, you and I (the consumer) are far worse off than we were before, and the US Government is making billions.

Our phones in Australia (and a lot of other stuff, including all tech stuff, and the clothes you're likely currently wearing - check the label) are about to get even more expensive.

Do you see how it works?

 

[EasternTiger]

Mal what does the doomsday clock say about Biden irresponsibly and recklessly escalating the Ukraine war in the last few days?

 

[Malifice]

Mal what does the doomsday clock say about Biden irresponsibly and recklessly escalating the Ukraine war in the last few days?

Are you aware that never actually discussing any topic in good faith, and just posting relentless trolling, makes you look like someone who doesnt actually understand the issue being discussed?

You know. Like a dullard?

You're not covering yourself in glory like you think you are.

Sad.

 

[magpie_marty]

Elon considering buying MXNBC.

Good.

MSNBC

 

[EasternTiger]

Are you aware that never actually discussing any topic in good faith, and just posting relentless trolling, makes you look like someone who doesnt actually understand the issue being discussed?

You know. Like a dullard?

You're not covering yourself in glory like you think you are.

Sad.

Answer the question.

 

[Malifice]

Answer the question.

Seeing as the clock is only updated every 2 years, it says nothing about it. Which you should know, if you weren't a troll.

Im not talking about the Democrats, Im talking about Trumps policies, and their effects.

What Democrat policy do you want to discuss?

 

[Malifice]

FWIW EasternTiger Biden didnt reverse the tariffs (which would have put downwards pressure on the cost of living) so I'm just as critical of him as I am on Trump on this topic.

 

[EasternTiger]

Seeing as the clock is only updated every 2 years, it says nothing about it. Which you should know, if you weren't a troll.

Im not talking about the Democrats, Im talking about Trumps policies, and their effects.

What Democrat policy do you want to discuss?

Your opinion on Biden’s reckless actions in the last week re: Ukraine war, thank you.

 

[Malifice]

Your opinion on Biden’s reckless actions in the last week re: Ukraine war, thank you.

Such as?

 

[Malifice]

On the subject of tariffs, why is there still a "luxury car tax" applied to cars imported here?

It only applies to cars priced above a certain threshold.

It's 33 percent of the amount above that threshold.