Top 10 Players Since 2000

[Stottzy]

1. Franklin
2. Judd
3. Ablett jnr
4. Scarlett
5. Hodge
6. Danger
7. Pavlich
8. Cox
9. Martin
10. Riewoldt

Buddy number 1 simply cause kicking 1000 goals and even kicking 100 in one year is incredible considering he played in an era of flooding, zoning, defensive tactics, forwards having to play more up field.

Judd number 2 cause he was an absolute jet from day 1 and till basically the end of his career. I remember he was getting compared to Coleman (98 games) for the greatest first 100 games we'd ever seen.

Scarlett best full back/kpb I've seen.

Martin was great, but I just don't reckon for long enough. He was sensational between 2016-2020, but his first 6 years was more good rather than great. His kicking early days was pretty wasteful. Always wish he'd share what he did to improve it so dramatically.

Cox and Gawn really the only ruckman I've rated to be top class in the last 20 years. Cox wins out just.

 

[blaisee]

1. Franklin
2. Judd
3. Ablett jnr
4. Scarlett
5. Hodge
6. Danger
7. Pavlich
8. Cox
9. Martin
10. Riewoldt

Buddy number 1 simply cause kicking 1000 goals and even kicking 100 in one year is incredible considering he played in an era of flooding, zoning, defensive tactics, forwards having to play more up field.

Judd number 2 cause he was an absolute jet from day 1 and till basically the end of his career. I remember he was getting compared to Coleman (98 games) for the greatest first 100 games we'd ever seen.

Scarlett best full back/kpb I've seen.

Martin was great, but I just don't reckon for long enough. He was sensational between 2016-2020, but his first 6 years was more good rather than great. His kicking early days was pretty wasteful. Always wish he'd share what he did to improve it so dramatically.

Cox and Gawn really the only ruckman I've rated to be top class in the last 20 years. Cox wins out just.

dusty averages more brownlow votes per game than gaj

Yet he is considered only the greatest finals player of all time lol

 

[Forward Press]

If a tree falls in a forest and no one is there to hear it, is Dustin Martin still the GOAT and Rance better than Scarlett?

 

[Stottzy]

dusty averages more brownlow votes per game than gaj

Yet he is considered only the greatest finals player of all time lol

Shane Woewoden won a brownlow when Carey, Matthews, Dunstall, Bartlett never did...... enough said.

 

[Priddis Is Done]

Great another dustbin w***fest

 

[Roobs321]

GAJ then daylight otherwise unserious /thread

 

[caveman72]

dusty averages more brownlow votes per game than gaj

Yet he is considered only the greatest finals player of all time lol

He's not even the Tiggers greatest finals player that award goes to KB

 

[PizzaPie]

1. Nick Daicos
2. Josh Daicos
3. Naicos
4. Jaicos
5. Nicky Daics
6. Daicos De Joshy
7. Dai Cosnick
8. Jo Daicosh
9. Nick of the House Daicos, the First of His Draft Year, The Un-umpired, King of the AFL, the Rising Stars and First 100 Gamers, King of the MCG, Returned Hero of the Greater Western Sydney Prelim, Protector of the Premiership, Sir Regnant of the Eighteen Clubs, Breaker of Tackles, and Son of the Macedonian Marvel
10. Billy Frampton

 

[blaisee]

He's not even the Tiggers greatest finals player that award goes to KB

well at least you did not say that GAJ or Danger where better finals players, so there is that

And KB ? Not sure he played since 2000,

But in any case thanks for the bump from a month ago, but with a month to prepare I would have hoped for better.

 

[HugeJohnson]

Controversial call here but on sheer talent Daniel Motlop has gotta be in with a shout. Bloke kicked some absolute freak goals. Check out this video and you'll see what I'm talking about


On the question of top 10, I'd probably go something like this

1. Lance Franklin (better known as 'Buddy')
2. Gary Ablett, Jr. A sublime little nugget that exuded genius.
3. Marcus Bontempelli

4

Marcus Bontempelli

Age

28

Ht

194cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

22.5

5star

K

12.3

5star

HB

10.3

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

4.8

5star

CL

4.4

5star

D

18.4

4star

K

9.7

4star

HB

8.8

4star

M

2.6

3star

T

4.1

5star

CL

4.0

5star

D

12.0

3star

K

5.8

3star

HB

6.2

4star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.8

5star

CL

1.8

4star

. Severely underrated imo. Still has years left but is consistently as brilliant as there's ever been.
4. Chris's Judd. Lost his hair but didn't lose his quality. Bloody good player in his day.
5. Dustin Martin. Reached the lofty peaks as high as anyone has but I don't think he's had the longevity and consistency of those above. Probably the greatest finals player though.
6. Michael Voss. Brother of Brett Voss

Brett Voss

Age

46

Ht

181cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.7

3star

K

7.1

3star

HB

4.6

3star

M

4.1

4star

T

1.5

3star

No current season stats available

D

6.2

2star

K

3.8

2star

HB

2.4

3star

M

1.4

2star

T

0.8

3star

, as tough as nails and natural born leader.
7. CHF. It's unfair to put any of these players ahead of another, I feel like they all held at some point the title of best CHF in the league. N. Riewoldt, Brown, Tredrea, Pavlich.
8. Matthew Scarlett

Matthew Scarlett

Age

45

Ht

192cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.8

4star

K

9.5

4star

HB

5.3

4star

M

5.0

5star

T

1.5

3star

No current season stats available

D

3.8

1star

K

3.2

2star

HB

0.6

1star

M

2.0

3star

T

0.8

3star

. Had to fit a defender in here somewhere on principle. He was as good as any I reckon.
9. Robbie Gray

9

Robbie Gray

Age

36

Ht

183cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

19.9

5star

K

9.8

4star

HB

10.1

5star

M

3.5

4star

T

3.2

5star

G

1.4

5star

D

13.3

3star

K

6.0

2star

HB

7.3

4star

M

2.4

3star

T

2.6

4star

G

0.6

4star

D

10.4

3star

K

6.6

3star

HB

3.8

3star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.4

4star

G

1.4

5star

. Controversial call but he was hugely underrated outside of Port Adelaide. As good as anyone on his day.
10. Daniel Motlop. Picked this bloke on talent alone. Check out this video and you'll see some of the magic he was able to produce.

 

[HairyO]

Dusty's peak (2017) was probably higher than anybody else in the modern era. His performances in big matches speak for themselves.

If I was picking a player for a single Grand Final, Dusty would probably be the player I would pick.

However, if I was building a side for long term success, I would take the consistency and longevity of GAJ and Judd, and the irreplaceable Franklin over Dusty.

If picking for a Grand Final, surely its Jack Gunston - with 12 goals across 4 Grand Finals...

Id go:
Buddy
Judd
GAJ
Dusty
Voss
S Mitchell
Goodes
Fyfe

After this I wouldnt know how to sort:
Enright
S Johnson
Rough
Both Riewaldts
Aker
Black
Cripps
Scarlett
Buckley
Pav
Cox
Danger
Bartel
Hodge
Lake
Neale
Swan
Pendles
S Burgoyne
Lloyd
Rance
Bont
Cyril

And Im sure many, many more could be in the 10 to 30 range and opinions would differ on any given day.

 

[King_Steele]

1. Ablett
2. Judd
3. Franklin
4. Martin
5. Goodes
6. Pavlich
7. Scarlett
8. Riewoldt
9. Lloyd
10. Hodge

 

[Cleansweep17]

He's not even the Tiggers greatest finals player that award goes to KB

Richmond supporters don’t agree. We did a poll on the Richmond board. Try again.

 

[Cleansweep17]

If picking for a Grand Final, surely its Jack Gunston - with 12 goals across 4 Grand Finals...

Id go:
Buddy
Judd
GAJ
Dusty
Voss
S Mitchell
Goodes
Fyfe

After this I wouldnt know how to sort:
Enright
S Johnson
Rough
Both Riewaldts
Aker
Black
Cripps
Scarlett
Buckley
Pav
Cox
Danger
Bartel
Hodge
Lake
Neale
Swan
Pendles
S Burgoyne
Lloyd
Rance
Bont
Cyril

And Im sure many, many more could be in the 10 to 30 range and opinions would differ on any given day.

Interesting with S Mitchell. He’s always an odd one with rating. I see him either really high like with you or really low like saying he’s one of the worst Brownlow medal winners ever. Not sure why that’s the case it’s pretty strange.

 

[Guardian Hawk]

So far there's only 2 players in the VFL/AFL to play 300+ games, play in a Premiership and win a Brownlow medal: Jimmy Bartel and Simon Black. Soon it will be 3 players, Dusty will join them.

Sam Mitchell? Patrick Dangerfield? Mark Ricciuto? Adam Goodes?

or was the above meant to include the Norm Smith as well? If so, Mitchell was pretty unlucky, given he was runner up in the Norm Smith twice (with performances that would have won it most other years).

 

[Guardian Hawk]

Interesting with S Mitchell. He’s always an odd one with rating. I see him either really high like with you or really low like saying he’s one of the worst Brownlow medal winners ever. Not sure why that’s the case it’s pretty strange.

Are you sure you're not confusing him with Tom Mitchell? No way anyone thinks he's one of the worst Brownlow winners of all time - he has the 3rd most Brownlow votes in history FFS (and was very unlucky not to go back to back).

 

[HairyO]

Interesting with S Mitchell. He’s always an odd one with rating. I see him either really high like with you or really low like saying he’s one of the worst Brownlow medal winners ever. Not sure why that’s the case it’s pretty strange.

Over 200 Brownlow votes. Id rate him highly because he was a phenomenal player. For a very long time.

 

[ZEV]

I'm obviously biased, but I think there is a lot of Vic centralism on this call. I'd say Tredrea with 4x AA (01,02,03,04) and being a premiership captain adds weight to his legacy. As well as being an AFL Coaches association award winner.

For the record, I don't think Tredders is 4th best player since 2000, but I don't think Riewoldt is either. And if Riewoldt is in the conversation, then Tredders should be too.

Tredrea and J Brown both better players than Roo.

 

[BloodRet]

1. Ablett
2. Franklin
3. Goodes
4. Martin
5. Judd
6. Voss
7. Nick Reiwoldt
8. Black
9. Sam Mitchell
10. Scarlett

 

[Sirlemsip]

Tredrea and J Brown both better players than Roo.

I loved watching J Brown play, but there is no world where he was a better player than Nick Riewoldt.

Tredrea vs N.Riewoldt is a discussion worth having.

 

[Sttew]

1. Ablett
2. Franklin
3. Goodes
4. Martin
5. Judd
6. Voss
7. Nick Reiwoldt
8. Black
9. Sam Mitchell
10. Scarlett

Great list. I wonder if Dangerfield deserves to be in the top 10 and if so, at whose expense? Simon Black? I did a comparison and it's amazing how close they are/were:

Player Statistics Comparison​ Patrick Dangerfield​ Name​ Simon Black​ Geelong Cats​ Team​ Brisbane Lions​ Midfield​ Position​ Midfield​ 328​ Career Games​ 322​ Geelong Falcons​ Origin​ East Fremantle​ April 5, 1990​ Date of Birth​ April 3, 1979​ 34yr 3mth​ Age​ 45yr 3mth​ 189cm​ Height​ 185cm​ 97kg​ Weight​ 81kg​ 2007 National Draft​ Last Drafted In​ 1997 National Draft​ Round 1, Pick #10​ Last Draft Position​ Round 2, Pick #31​ Adelaide Crows​ Last Drafted By​ Brisbane Lions​ Career​ Stats for Season​ Career​ 328​ Games​ 322​ 12.6​ Kicks​ 11.8​ 11.0​ Handballs​ 11.7​ 23.5​ Disposals​ 23.5​ 3.8​ Marks​ 2.9​ 1.0​ Goals​ 0.5​ 0.8​ Behinds​ 0.5​ 3.8​ Tackles​ 4.0​ 0.4​ Hitouts​ 0.1​ 1.7​ Frees For​ 1.0​ 1.2​ Frees Against​

 

[Sttew]

Dangerfield v Mitchell?

Player Statistics Comparison​ Patrick Dangerfield​ Name​ Sam Mitchell​ Geelong Cats​ Team​ West Coast Eagles​ Midfield​ Position​ Midfield​ 328​ Career Games​ 329​ Geelong Falcons​ Origin​ Eastern Ranges​ April 5, 1990​ Date of Birth​ October 12, 1982​ 34yr 3mth​ Age​ 41yr 8mth​ 189cm​ Height​ 180cm​ 97kg​ Weight​ 84kg​ 2007 National Draft​ Last Drafted In​ 2001 National Draft​ Round 1, Pick #10​ Last Draft Position​ Round 2, Pick #36​ Adelaide Crows​ Last Drafted By​ Hawthorn Hawks​ Career​ Stats for Season​ Career​ 328​ Games​ 329​ 12.6​ Kicks​ 13.8​ 11.0​ Handballs​ 12.6​ 23.5​ Disposals​ 26.4​ 3.8​ Marks​ 3.9​ 1.0​ Goals​ 0.2​ 0.8​ Behinds​ 0.2​ 3.8​ Tackles​ 3.8​ 0.4​ Hitouts​ 0.1​ 1.7​ Frees For​ 1.4​ 1.2​ Frees Against​

 

[BloodRet]

Great list. I wonder if Dangerfield deserves to be in the top 10 and if so, at whose expense? Simon Black? I did a comparison and it's amazing how close they are/were:

Player Statistics Comparison​ Patrick Dangerfield​ Name​ Simon Black​ Geelong Cats​ Team​ Brisbane Lions​ Midfield​ Position​ Midfield​ 328​ Career Games​ 322​ Geelong Falcons​ Origin​ East Fremantle​ April 5, 1990​ Date of Birth​ April 3, 1979​ 34yr 3mth​ Age​ 45yr 3mth​ 189cm​ Height​ 185cm​ 97kg​ Weight​ 81kg​ 2007 National Draft​ Last Drafted In​ 1997 National Draft​ Round 1, Pick #10​ Last Draft Position​ Round 2, Pick #31​ Adelaide Crows​ Last Drafted By​ Brisbane Lions​ Career​ Stats for Season​ Career​ 328​ Games​ 322​ 12.6​ Kicks​ 11.8​ 11.0​ Handballs​ 11.7​ 23.5​ Disposals​ 23.5​ 3.8​ Marks​ 2.9​ 1.0​ Goals​ 0.5​ 0.8​ Behinds​ 0.5​ 3.8​ Tackles​ 4.0​ 0.4​ Hitouts​ 0.1​ 1.7​ Frees For​ 1.0​ 1.2​ Frees Against​

I have no problem seeing Dangerfield between 7-10 on any list in this thread to be honest. The stats don't show his speed either.

 

[AvantGardener]

1. Franklin
2. Judd
3. Buckley
4. Hodge
5. Ablett
6. Cousins
7. Cripps
8. Bont
9. Curnow
10. J McGovern

 

[Sttew]

1. Franklin
2. Judd
3. Buckley
4. Hodge
5. Ablett
6. Cousins
7. Cripps
8. Bont
9. Curnow
10. J McGovern

Lost me when you inserted McGovern at No.10. I doubt he would be top 50.

And, 4 Carlton players in your top 10?