Current Synagogue Firebombing Melbourne Investigated as a terrorist attack * Antisemitic attacks escalating

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I say you're pretty clueless if you think you have to have a middle eastern sounding name to be a Muslim.

However, it is true that religiously motivated Islamist attacks are carried out mostly by those with middle eastern sounding names. There's usually a clue somewhere in their name.
 

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You seem very confident but has it crossed your mind you risk big embarrassment if it turns out there are no links to Islamists in these attacks?

I said it could come from multiple groups.

So zero embarrassment.

I said these mental cases at the protests are majority of one group. The same kind of belief system as Hamas.
 
I said it could come from multiple groups.

So zero embarrassment.

I said these mental cases at the protests are majority of one group. The same kind of belief system as Hamas.

You waded in to this thread this morning complaining you couldn't criticise Islam, clearly attempting to implicate the book in these crimes.

And called me a hypocrite for suggesting criticism of Israel's government is not antisemitic.
 
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Does the above apply to media releases from the official NSW Police website which are interestingly branded as "Latest News" by NSW Police, despite them not being or containing links to or copies of Main Stream news media articles?

In fact the media (i.e SMH) uses content from these NSW Police publications/media releases for their (i.e SMH) news articles.
 
Does the above apply to media releases from the official NSW Police website which are interestingly branded as "Latest News" by NSW Police, despite them not being or containing links to or copies of Main Stream news media articles?

In fact the media (i.e SMH) uses content in these NSW Police publications for their (i.e SMH) news articles.

No.
 
You waded in to this thread this morning complaining you couldn't criticise Islam, clearly attempting to implicate the book in these crimes.

And called me a hypocrite for suggesting criticism of Israel's government is not antisemitic.

And it's true.

Let's not pretend people can unleash on Islam like they can on Hillsong or Scientology.

Suggesting otherwise would just be a lie.
 
And it's true.

Let's not pretend people can unleash on Islam like they can on Hillsong or Scientology.

Suggesting otherwise would just be a lie.

Yeah, people do unleash on Islam. Have you not noticed the many, many ex Muslims speaking out now?
 

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Yeah, people do unleash on Islam. Have you not noticed the many, many ex Muslims speaking out now?

People don't unleash on BF.

For some strange reason they get far more protection than other weird ideologies do.

You could say anything you like about Scomo and his whack job religion on BF.

Say anything about a Muslim politician and it's a far different story.
 
People don't unleash on BF.

For some strange reason they get far more protection than other weird ideologies do.

You could say anything you like about Scomo and his whack job religion on BF.

Say anything about a Muslim politician and it's a far different story.

An ex-Muslim or Muslim has the higher standing to criticize Islam. I'm technically a Christian (non practicing) but my nannies were conservative Muslims who incidentally had very little English, until I went to high school, so I think I have a bit deeper understanding than many would. I am still careful of what I say and I still wouldn't presume to have equal standing on it.

If you're picking on a politician simply because they're a Muslim, you're out of line.
 
People don't unleash on BF.

For some strange reason they get far more protection than other weird ideologies do.

You could say anything you like about Scomo and his whack job religion on BF.

Say anything about a Muslim politician and it's a far different story.

Usually because people are punching down at all Muslims instead of criticising the belief system. They lack the nuance to express themselves without simply being outright racist.

Criticising the dominant group in society e.g. punching UP is not at all the same.

But that's a level of nuance you're not interested in.
 
An ex-Muslim or Muslim has the higher standing to criticize Islam. I'm technically a Christian (non practicing) but my nannies were conservative Muslims who incidentally had very little English, until I went to high school, so I think I have a bit deeper understanding than many would but I am still careful of what I say and I still wouldn't presume to have equal standing on it.

If you're picking on a politician simply because they're a Muslim, you're out of line.

That's a terrible theory.

You're saying people with the biggest biases are the ones who people should be given more credence too?

If a Muslim politician brings their Islamic views into their job then they deserve to be picked on.

That's what happened with Scomo.

That's where the hypocrisy comes out.
 
That's a terrible theory.

You're saying people with the biggest biases are the ones who people should be given more credence too?

If a Muslim politician brings their Islamic views into their job then they deserve to be picked on.

That's what happened with Scomo.

That's where the hypocrisy comes out.

You've gone from a general bashing of Islam to singling out politicians now? Whoever said a politician couldn't be criticised for their views?
 
You're saying people with the biggest biases are the ones who people should be given more credence too?

I'm saying a Muslim or an ex Muslim has a deeper understanding of Islam than I do, or you do. I'm going to give more attention to a Muslim or an ex Muslim critiquing their religion than I am to a Hare Krshna who probably doesn't know what they're talking about. And I'm going to test for bigotry.
 
I'm saying a Muslim or an ex Muslim has a deeper understanding of Islam than I do, or you do. I'm going to give more attention to a Muslim or an ex Muslim critiquing their religion than I am to a a Hare Krshna who probably doesn't know what they're talking about. And I'm going to test for bigotry.

I think Christopher Hitchens had a far better understanding of the Quran than a great many million Muslims did.

You're giving creedence to people who believe in a made up fictitious being.

Not a great starting point.
 
If a Muslim politician brings their Islamic views into their job then they deserve to be picked on.
What's wrong with a Politician bringing their religious view into their job as a Politician?

Especially if their local electorate, and the majority of those that voted for them, did so on the expectation that they would represent their religious views as their local MP?

Provided the politician or their party does not breach the Australian constitution section on the separation of church and state in Australia.
 
I think Christopher Hitchens had a far better understanding of the Quran than a great many million Muslims did.

You're giving creedence to people who believe in a made up fictitious being.

Not a great starting point.

The problem you have is you start from a not so controversial position of taking issues with religion in general and wanting to keep it out of Government, then delve rapidly in to fairly racist rants about Muslims specifically.
 
What's wrong with a Politician bringing their religious view into their job as a Politician?

Their job is to govern, not push their bullshit views that have nothing to do with governance.


Especially if their local electorate, and the majority of those that voted for them, did so on the expectation that they would represent their religious views as their local MP?

You mean like the council clowns who push their bullshit ideologies when their job is to make sure the bins are picked up and the suburbs are kept maintained?

We don't need to know those clowns views on Palestine.

STFU and do the job you're elected for.

Provided the politician or their party does not breach the Australian constitution section on the separation of church and state in Australia.

There is literally zero need for any religious input to governing Australia.
 

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