Games & Recreation Song Contest Part XXIII, Host: JHF1870, Theme: Negative Emotions/Feelings, Votes Due: Sunday 9pm AEDT

[Lunchlady Doris]

Keep the Billy but don’t have it mandatory?

I didn't enter a billy for a while after I first joined the comp

 

[Ulahoopski]

Awesome! Thought Britney had gone solo for good.

 

[Hydatina Physis]

I didn't enter a billy for a while after I first joined the comp

 

[MWPP]

The day we get rid of the Billy will be the day that I retire. I say this is someone who has many despite not being a Billy baiter
And someone who votes for songs that others Billy in good faith because that simply reflects my taste.

It’s a fun aspect of the contest, acts as a tiebreaker and there are plenty of categories that involve the Billy in the Halls so we would be messing with history by getting rid of it even putting the spreadsheet factor aside.

I’m not in favour of making optional

People can self billy if they really feel no song deserves it

Or billy a song they also voted for so it’s negated

 

[Hydatina Physis]

I like the Billy because it forces everyone to listen to all songs. Also as someone who noms niche genres frequently I’d like to know that everyone will give it a fair chance, even if it gets the Billy.

Otherwise as soon as you know a song won’t be in your top 5 you’d skip it.

I dont think the billy forces anything. I think people that skip, will skip regardless. If you're unfamiliar with a track before it plays, you don't know if it'll feature in your votes so in theory everyone should already be playing each song at least long enough for them to decide.

 

[Hydatina Physis]

People can self billy if they really feel no song deserves it

Or billy a song they also voted for so it’s negated

People took issue when I tried to do both of those things.

 

[MWPP]

People took issue when I tried to do both of those things.

People will take issue over anything

 

[Hydatina Physis]

People will take issue over anything

Good point.

 

[por_please_ya]

Hard to work that into a spreadsheet (re billying and voting for the same song).

People don't have to share their Billy in the thread and some already don't.

 

[Chipmunk]

I dont think the billy forces anything. I think people that skip, will skip regardless. If you're unfamiliar with a track before it plays, you don't know if it'll feature in your votes so in theory everyone should already be playing each song at least long enough for them to decide.

They should be listening to the whole song regardless, and forcing people to consider which song they like the least is, for me, at least a valid exercise of thinking exactly what it is I don’t like about the song. Which disappears if I only have to think about a top 5.

People took issue when I tried to do both of those things.

Yeah that’s allowed!

 

[MWPP]

Hard to work that into a spreadsheet (re billying and voting for the same song).

People don't have to share their Billy in the thread and some already don't.

Just handle it like countbacks ie do that element manually. It’s not complicated.

And yeah, plus don’t even have to share their votes

I’d be in favour of the host revealing all sets of votes , de identified . Errors would be spotted far more quickly . Again when I did it people complained but I didn’t let that stop me

 

[Hydatina Physis]

Yeah that’s allowed!

Taking issue is allowed or self billying/vote+billying is allowed?

 

[spinynorman]

Going to sound convenient given my nom was just awarded it but should we hold a vote post-1000 as to whether or not we do away with the billy? I doubt it would get over the line but there's a few of us that lean that way I'm sure. The next 1000 rounds could be purely celebratory. Not infrequently do I find myself giving the billy at random if the playlist is decent or all tracks have merit. Just seems pointless sometimes. I do understand it's reason for existing though.

It could help retain participants to do away with it, I'm reckon some people care when their nominations get billied.

Yeah, I’ve said before, I think it discourages “love it or hate it” divisive noms and encourages trolling. So I’m with you but apparently it’s basically us against the world.

 

[Fossie 32]

I like the Billy because it forces everyone to listen to all songs. Also as someone who noms niche genres frequently I’d like to know that everyone will give it a fair chance, even if it gets the Billy.

Otherwise as soon as you know a song won’t be in your top 5 you’d skip it.

Nah I don't get this really. Wouldn't you have to listen to a bit of each even if there was no billy to see whether they are voteworthy? I guess it does make you think a bit more about which one you like the least obviously, but that doesn't affect the votes and doesn't make me want to listen to genres I don't like.

 

[Chipmunk]

I guess it does make you think a bit more about which one you like the least obviously.

Yeah that’s my point, and I’ve had it where someone who started with an assumption of hating my nom based on genre and would probably have skipped the song, but were won over by the end and voted for it. To each their own really.

 

[Fossie 32]

5 Pink Floyd 10 WAbulldog 5th
4 Ogi - Envy 9.5 very nice Ocha905 3rd
3 Grapes of Wrath - All the Things I Wasn’t 8.8 spinynorman 9th
2 Lana del Rey 8.7 Callums_Guns 11th
1 Envy of None 8.6 Ulahoopski 4th

 

[BFew]

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You would have got a whole lot more billies if there's wasn't a melt in the Ice.

 

[spudmaster]

Yo JHF1870 artists with the first name Billy or you're dead to me!

 

[Fossie 32]

Yo JHF1870 artists with the first name Billy or you're dead to me!

Did you give me any votes Spud?

 

[BFew]

5. BALTHVS - In Lust
4. Epitaph - Wrath
3. Froyo - Pride
2. HVOB - Gluttony
1. Lust For Life - Lana Del Rey

BM - R.O.T Gluttony

 

[Loonerty]

I've been in favour of removing the Billy for a while, but if it's kept it should be kept with the same principle as what it began with - which means no Billying yourself or a song you've voted for.

The reason it's called the Billy is this:

 

[spudmaster]

Did you give me any votes Spud?

You got my 5 naturally Foss

 

[Ulahoopski]

If there were 8 deadly sins, what would the 8th one be?

Ghosting the SC when you've been lurking and know that you've won the right to host a one in a thousand round?
JHF1870

 

[Ocha905]

I've been in favour of removing the Billy for a while, but if it's kept it should be kept with the same principle as what it began with - which means no Billying yourself or a song you've voted for.

The reason it's called the Billy is this:

I hope it stays just so you can extend your record as the only long-term, more-than-semi-regular contestant who I haven't Billy'd (shout out to the fly , JoshWoodenSpoon and Hydatina Physis and his many forms as well). It's cool to know you 4 are the contestants immune from nomming trash.

 

[Hydatina Physis]

It's cool to know you 4 are the contestants immune from nomming trash.

Aw that's sweet.