Richard Hinds finds a way to slag AFL in the Storm scandal

[zachary]

Page 3 of The Age today "At the MCG, the annual Anzac Day match between Collingwood and Essendon produced a one-sided affair that finished, despite a crowd of 90,000, with an anticlimactic murmur. Inside Etihad Stadium, the far less numerous (23,909) but far more raucous Storm crowd raised goosebumps." http://www.theage.com.au/rugby-leag...and-pulls-10000-extra-fans-20100425-tlq4.html
Slight difference in the games beside the massive crowd differential. One was a genuine sporting contest whereas the other was a rigged travesty. The Storm were still fielding their illegal team giving them an unfair and dishonestly obtained advantage over their opponents (who are still eligible for points). That makes the rugby league game as real as World Championship Wrestling. To Hinds, however, that is irrelevant as long as the crowd are vocal and approving.
If this had happened in AFL Hinds, Smith, Wilson et al would be screaming from the rooftops about the compromised season and the unrepentant ongoing cheating. The would be scathing of supporters to are happy to watch their team cheat. They would be asking why the board of the Storm doesn't immediately offload players so it can at least play out the season honestly. But that doesn't happen with reporting on Rugby League.

 

[ash_1050]

Because 40-6 in a half full stadium is more exciting. What an idiot.

 

[Daytripper]

LOL at OP.

Hinds is a Victorian and an AFL man through and through.

 

[wowlace]

I call BS. If he had ever been to a Collingwood game you would know there is no murmur. Loudest thing I have ever heard is the crowd when Collingwood kicks a goal.

I went to my first NRL game a few weeks ago with my mum (Storm fan) when the Storm played The Dragons. It was dead quiet. Such a weird experience. Very laxydazy all game. No one even cared when the game finished.

I took my mum to Collingwood v Melbourne the next day. She complained all day about her sore ears. Haha I told her it's like you versus the world when you play Collingwood.

That journo has NFI.

 

[Perce]

Hinds is also a Collingwood man.
Wasn't at the MCG yesterday, but on telly it looked flat. Was at the rugby league last night and the atmsophere was amazing - combination of anger and grief. Very strange vibe - spine-tingling.
At the G today, and it was certainly loud when the Blues started hammering nails into our coffin in the second half, but not the same weird and memorable vibe as the NRL game last night.

 

[zachary]

Here he goes again today "...Waldron's work - the adoption, perhaps, of some now outdated practices learnt at his former AFL clubs Richmond and St Kilda - and not taken from an NRL-wide blueprint."
It obviously all the AFL's fault.
http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...ron-deserve-a-fair-hearing-20100427-tq45.html

 

[Daytripper]

Here he goes again today "...Waldron's work - the adoption, perhaps, of some now outdated practices learnt at his former AFL clubs Richmond and St Kilda - and not taken from an NRL-wide blueprint."
It obviously all the AFL's fault.
http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...ron-deserve-a-fair-hearing-20100427-tq45.html

Mate, I don't know what you're trying to get at.

Hinds is definitely an AFL man. He has no pro NRL agenda.

 

[desie]

Mate, I don't know what you're trying to get at.

Hinds is definitely an AFL man. He has no pro NRL agenda.

Given the tenet of a few of the articles I've read of his recently, you'd never know it.

 

[Daytripper]

Given the tenet of a few of the articles I've read of his recently, you'd never know it.

Mate, he's probably the best sports journalist in the country. If only we had a few more like him who can convey an opinion honestly and with humour.

 

[zachary]

Mate, I don't know what you're trying to get at.

Hinds is definitely an AFL man. He has no pro NRL agenda.

In the past couple of years every article he has written about AFL has been negative. Maybe he is under instructions from the Sydney Fairfax management, maybe those are the sorts of articles which sell papers in Sydney or maybe he is just afraid of Roy Masters, but he is definitely hostile to our game.

 

[Ruse]

Mate, he's probably the best sports journalist in the country. If only we had a few more like him who can convey an opinion honestly and with humour.

Lol, you've just given yourself away there, Hinds. You're decent but you'd be the only person in australia who thinks you're the best in the country.

 

[Sebastian Balboa]

Hinds USED to lace his fair and balanced writing with humour. Now, over the past few months, that humour has somehow given way to an anti-AFL agenda. What that long-term agenda is, I don't know. It seems Hinds has become Roy Masters' understudy, ready to take over when that cranky, old fart falls over.

I used to be mildly entertained reading his work; now, I can barely tolerate it.

 

[Daytripper]

Lol, you've just given yourself away there, Hinds. You're decent but you'd be the only person in australia who thinks you're the best in the country.

Whilst it is a compliment to be thought of as Richard Hinds, you are wrong.

Ridiculous that this bloke is getting potted. There are a thousand other sports journalists in this country who deserve criticism ahead of him.

He's about the only one in this country who could live in a the shadow of some of the great US sportswriters like Bill Simmons.

 

[Beaussie]

Hinds USED to lace his fair and balanced writing with humour. Now, over the past few months, that humour has somehow given way to an anti-AFL agenda. What that long-term agenda is, I don't know. It seems Hinds has become Roy Masters' understudy, ready to take over when that cranky, old fart falls over.

I used to be mildly entertained reading his work; now, I can barely tolerate it.

I have stopped reading his articles . It has become more and more obvious he has an anti-AFL agenda. #$% you Hinds.

 

[zachary]

Mate, I don't know what you're trying to get at.

Hinds is definitely an AFL man. He has no pro NRL agenda.

An AFL man who calls soccer football? No pro NRL agenda? Today's effort : http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...nt-kill-league-with-an-axe-20100428-tsj4.html

 

[western royboy]

Hinds USED to lace his fair and balanced writing with humour. Now, over the past few months, that humour has somehow given way to an anti-AFL agenda. What that long-term agenda is, I don't know. It seems Hinds has become Roy Masters' understudy, ready to take over when that cranky, old fart falls over.

I used to be mildly entertained reading his work; now, I can barely tolerate it.

Agree whole heartedly with your observation, I feel the same.

 

[More_Or_Less]

Went to primary school with this tool, and I haven't seen anything that has changed my opinion since.

I don't waste my time reading anything this fool writes.

 

[Daytripper]

An AFL man who calls soccer football? No pro NRL agenda? Today's effort : http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...nt-kill-league-with-an-axe-20100428-tsj4.html

Whats he meant to call it ?
Wogball.....

It is possible you realise, to like AFL and to also like NRL and football (soccer).

I feel like I've gone back in a time warp reading some of the stuff on here.

I'm banging my head against a door here but Richard Hinds is an AFL man. He grew up in Victoria and spent most of his career in Melbourne before leaving for Sydney about 10 years ago. I don't know what part of that you don't understand.

Just because he now writes for a Syndey newspaper and sometimes criticises AFL does not mean he has an anti AFL agenda. He's critical of other sports as well.

Are all journalists only supposed to write nice things about certain sports ?

 

[Daytripper]

Went to primary school with this tool, and I haven't seen anything that has changed my opinion since.

I don't waste my time reading anything this fool writes.

You judge a person on what he was like at Primary School and you have the gall to call him a fool......

 

[Hoops]

Whats he meant to call it ?
Wogball.....

exactly what zachary called it "soccer", it's not that hard.

A Victorian bred football person first and foremost which is what you claim him to be would never call soccer "football", not because he is unworldly or has an agenda against soccer. but because that's what he would of always called it.

 

[Daytripper]

exactly what zachary called it "soccer", it's not that hard.

A Victorian bred football person first and foremost which is what you claim him to be would never call soccer "football", not because he is unworldly or has an agenda against soccer. but because that's what he would of always called it.

Right.
So we've clarified two points from this thread.

1. If you call soccer, football, then you must either be non Victorian or hate AFL (or both).
2. What a person is like in primary school carries over to what they're like when they are in their mid 40s.

If people didn't actually believe this stuff, it would almost be comical.

 

[Hoops]

Right.
So we've clarified two points from this thread.

1. If you call soccer, football, then you must either be non Victorian or hate AFL (or both).
2. What a person is like in primary school carries over to what they're like when they are in their mid 40s.

If people didn't actually believe this stuff, it would almost be comical.

Stop putting words in my mouth. I said a football person first and foremost,
You obviously aren't a football person first and foremost and from Victoria as you call the sport "AFL"

 

[zachary]

On the morning of ladder leader Sydney's home game against fellow top team Brisbane, what would you expect the AFL writer of the Sydney Morning Herald to write about? Match ups? Ins and Outs? No way - for Richard Hinds it's all about Lara Bingle and Fev's gambling problem. http://www.smh.com.au/sport/all-bet...gers-crowd-into-the-temple-20100430-tz93.html The only mention of the game at all is this:
" The man who will line up for Brisbane against the Swans tonight is a victim of the punt".
And without a shred of evidence his article concludes with this veiled dig at the AFL:
"As Australian sport is subsumed by gambling, is anyone willing to mention that the odds on a betting scandal that would put the Storm salary cap rorting in the shade are tumbling?"

 

[Daytripper]

On the morning of ladder leader Sydney's home game against fellow top team Brisbane, what would you expect the AFL writer of the Sydney Morning Herald to write about? Match ups? Ins and Outs? No way - for Richard Hinds it's all about Lara Bingle and Fev's gambling problem. http://www.smh.com.au/sport/all-bet...gers-crowd-into-the-temple-20100430-tz93.html The only mention of the game at all is this:
" The man who will line up for Brisbane against the Swans tonight is a victim of the punt".
And without a shred of evidence his article concludes with this veiled dig at the AFL:
"As Australian sport is subsumed by gambling, is anyone willing to mention that the odds on a betting scandal that would put the Storm salary cap rorting in the shade are tumbling?"

He's referring to sport in general, not specifically AFL. Try reading the article properly.

And Hinds is not a nuts and bolts AFL commentator like a Rohan Connolly or Mark Robinson.

 

[zachary]

He's referring to sport in general, not specifically AFL. Try reading the article properly.

And Hinds is not a nuts and bolts AFL commentator like a Rohan Connolly or Mark Robinson.

The article predominantly refers to AFL, and the cartoon attached to the article shows Fev betting at a computer holding 3 Swans cards. I repeat not one shred of evidence in the article. Fev ought to sue.
You have argued that he is an AFL man with no pro NRL agenda, but every article he has written this week has been otherwise.