Ok, so I've seen another video of police using force on a bunch of protesters in Melbourne, and as you can imagine the Facebook warriors have seen the footage and have been crying out for murder, saying ridiculous things like Australia will end up like a 3rd world country, this is disgusting etc.
But when does police force become excessive or unnecessary? Have you been involved in situations where you feel the police escalated a situation to a violent point that was not needed? IMO, I believe the police had every right to forcefully remove these people. Their message has been well and truly heard and have now gone to point of being a public nuisance. If they cannot follow a reasonable request to move on, then police should go for it.
What angers me most is that the people who are outraged by this, and labelling them all types of things, will happily request their services when their hour of need arises. They have very little understanding of the context in which these protesters were removed and are quick to point the finger and sook over incidents like these.
No doubt cops are humans as well; some of them are complete douchebags who do not deserve the position they're in, thinking they are above the law and go out to intimidate you. But even still, I acknowledge that some of them are just regular people trying to do their job and will protect you when needed.
For those who haven't seen the video, here it is.
Mods, I know I have seen this issue raised somewhere on this board. A similar video of a girl having a costume taken off her and being left exposed in a park was subject of a thread a little while ago, but after using the search function, I could not find the thread or one similar.
Update 10 September 2021:
Created this thread when I was 17... it would be fair to say my view on this issue has evolved drastically since the time of the initial post having completed a law degree and commencing my masters.
I will say the treatment of our first nations people in custody (among other environments) is a national shame.
The recent lockdown protests in Melbourne have also brought this topic to light - however the more pertinent issue has probably been people's rights to protest and the lawfulness of the lockdowns.
I have previously been content with Australia's human rights framework (or lack thereof) which have seen the majority of our human rights evolve through the courts i.e. they are not entrenched by virtue of an entrenched bill of rights.
The pandemic has tested this view of mine. I believe a clear framework is needed more than ever when it comes to human rights in Australia, one which is robust, however flexible enough to deal with the modern challenges of globalisation and pandemics.
I digress from the thread topic, however I will conclude by stating police brutality is not acceptable in any form and is very much an issue in Australian society. The George Floyd murder (among many others) illustrates how dire situation is in the United States. I hope we can work towards an equal society for all Australians where no ethnic group is overrepresented in custodial deaths or injuries.
But when does police force become excessive or unnecessary? Have you been involved in situations where you feel the police escalated a situation to a violent point that was not needed? IMO, I believe the police had every right to forcefully remove these people. Their message has been well and truly heard and have now gone to point of being a public nuisance. If they cannot follow a reasonable request to move on, then police should go for it.
What angers me most is that the people who are outraged by this, and labelling them all types of things, will happily request their services when their hour of need arises. They have very little understanding of the context in which these protesters were removed and are quick to point the finger and sook over incidents like these.
No doubt cops are humans as well; some of them are complete douchebags who do not deserve the position they're in, thinking they are above the law and go out to intimidate you. But even still, I acknowledge that some of them are just regular people trying to do their job and will protect you when needed.
For those who haven't seen the video, here it is.
Mods, I know I have seen this issue raised somewhere on this board. A similar video of a girl having a costume taken off her and being left exposed in a park was subject of a thread a little while ago, but after using the search function, I could not find the thread or one similar.
Update 10 September 2021:
Created this thread when I was 17... it would be fair to say my view on this issue has evolved drastically since the time of the initial post having completed a law degree and commencing my masters.
I will say the treatment of our first nations people in custody (among other environments) is a national shame.
The recent lockdown protests in Melbourne have also brought this topic to light - however the more pertinent issue has probably been people's rights to protest and the lawfulness of the lockdowns.
I have previously been content with Australia's human rights framework (or lack thereof) which have seen the majority of our human rights evolve through the courts i.e. they are not entrenched by virtue of an entrenched bill of rights.
The pandemic has tested this view of mine. I believe a clear framework is needed more than ever when it comes to human rights in Australia, one which is robust, however flexible enough to deal with the modern challenges of globalisation and pandemics.
I digress from the thread topic, however I will conclude by stating police brutality is not acceptable in any form and is very much an issue in Australian society. The George Floyd murder (among many others) illustrates how dire situation is in the United States. I hope we can work towards an equal society for all Australians where no ethnic group is overrepresented in custodial deaths or injuries.
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