NBA 2025 Offseason Thread - where mediocrity lives. Now with more NBA Draft

[Son of Skeletor]

Welcome all, to the refuge of the eternally damned.

If you support an NBA duffer, then make yourself right at home. However if you're a fan of an actual well-run NBA team, or the Lakers, then you're not due here. Yet.


Getting the offseason going with a bang, the Hawks, Kings and Pels have all fired their GMs. Elsewhere the Suns have wasted little time with their annual coach firing, the Mavs are allegedly considering hiring a minder for Nico Harrison, and the Spurs are in limbo awaiting further news on Coach Popovich. God speed, Pops.


The Kings and Pels both hired new GMs within 24 hours of firing their incumbents, proving once again that small minds think alike. My Pelicans have really gone the retro route and hired Joe Dumars, and followed that up by recycling another discarded Detroit front office leader in Troy Weaver. Given the Pistons hired Trajan Langdon from New Orleans 12 months ago, the Pels have effectively traded their front office for Detroit's - of all the choices you could make in basketball, that's certainly one.

Weaver will now serve as senior Vice President of basketball ops, under executive Vice President of basketball ops, Dumars. Curious to see how the Pelicans choose their job titles, we've gotten hold of some exclusive footage from Smoothie King Centre:





Anyway, here are some dates for some REAL action, once that pesky playoff nonsense comes to a merciful end.


May 12/13 - Lottery draw

June 26/27 - NBA Draft

June 30 - Free agent negotiations

July7/8 - Free agency proper begins


EDIT: Here's a brief recap on the offseason dealings thus far


Free agency signings

Myles Turner to Milwaukee, 4/109
Nickeil Alexander-Walker to Atlanta, 4/61
Dorian Finney-Smith to Houston, 4/53
Duncan Robinson to Detroit, 3/48 (see trades)
Caris LeVert to Detroit, 2/29
Dennis Schroeder to Sacramento, 3/45
Damian Lillard to Portland, 3/42
Luke Kornet to San Antonio, 4/41
Luke Kennard to Atlanta, 1/11
Ty Jerome to Memphis, 3/28
Clint Capela to Houston, 3/21
Brook Lopez to LA Clippers, 2/18
Kevon Looney to New Orleans, 2/16
Deandre Ayton to LA Lakers, 2/16
Jake LaRavia to LA Lakers, 2/12
Marcus Smart to LA Lakers, 2/11
Brad Beal to LA Clippers, 2/11
D'Angelo Russell to Dallas, 2/12
Guerschon Yabusele to New York, 2/12
Tyus Jones to Orlando, 1/7
Al Horford to Golden State, 2/12
DeAnthony Melton to Golden State, 2/6
Bruce Brown to Denver, 1/3
Tim Hardaway to Denver, 1/3
Gary Harris to Milwaukee, 2/6
Cole Anthony to Milwaukee, 1/3
Chris Paul to LA Clippers, 1/3
Larry Nance to Cleveland, 1/3
Jordan Clarkson to New York, 1/3
Mason Plumlee to Charlotte, 1/3
Spencer Dinwiddie to Charlotte, 1/3
Russell Westbrook to Sacramento, 1/3
Drew Eubanks to Sacramento, 1/3
Jock Landale to Memphis, 1/3
Marvin Bagley to Washington, 1/3
Josh Okogie to Houston, 1/3
Blake Wesley to Portland, 1/3
Javonte Green to Detroit, 1/3
Sandro Mamukelashvili to Toronto, 2/5
Chris Boucher to Boston, 1/3
Luke Garza to Boston, 2/5
Josh Minott to Boston, 2/5
Trendon Watford to Philadelphia, 2/5
N'Faly Dante to Atlanta, 2/5
Caleb Houstan to Atlanta, 1/2
Lindy Waters to San Antonio, 1/2
Nigel Hayes-Davis to Phoenix, 1/2
Jordan Goodwin to Phoenix, 1/2
Jared Butler to Phoenix, 1/2



Free agency re-signings

Josh Giddey with Chicago, 4/100
Jonathan Kuminga with Golden State, 2/47
Santi Aldama with Memphis, 3/52
Davion Mitchell with Miami, 2/24
Sam Merrill with Cleveland, 4/38
Tre Jones with Chicago, 3/24
Tre Mann with Charlotte, 3/24
Isaiah Jackson with Indiana, 3/21
Quentin Grimes with Philadelphia, 1/9
Cam Thomas with Brooklyn, 1/6
Day'Ron Sharpe with Brooklyn, 2/12
Ziaire Williams with Brooklyn, 2/12
Nic Batum with LA Clippers, 2/12
Paul Reed with Detroit, 2/11
Ryan Rollins with Milwaukee, 3/12
Kevin Porter with Milwaukee, 2/11
Gary Trent with Milwaukee, 2/8
Taurean Prince with Milwaukee, 2/6
Jericho Sims with Milwaukee, 2/5
Thanasis Antetokounmpo with Milwaukee, 1/3
Chris Livingston with Milwaukee, 1/2
Aaron Holiday with Houston, 1/3
Jeff Green with Houston, 1/3
Jae'Sean Tate with Houston, 1/3
Kyle Lowry with Philadelphia, 1/3
Eric Gordon with Philadelphia, 1/3
Gary Payton with Golden State, 1/3
Joe Ingles with Minnesota, 1/3
Dante Exum with Dallas, 1/3
Dru Smith with Miami, 3/8
James Wiseman with Indiana, 2/5
Jaxson Hayes with LA Lakers, 1/3
Doug McDermott with Sacramento, 1/3
Jordan McLaughlin with San Antonio, 1/3
Cam Spencer with Memphis, 4/10
Collin Gillespie with Phoenix, 1/2



Contract extensions/renegotiations

Shai Gilgeous-Alexander, OKC, 4/285 (6/364 total)
Chet Holmgren, OKC, 5/240
Jalen Williams, OKC, 5/240
Jaren Jackson, Memphis, 5/240
Paolo Banchero, Orlando, 5/240
Devin Booker, Phoenix, 2/145 (5/316 total)
Luka Doncic, LA Lakers, 3/161 (4/207 total)
De'Aaron Fox, San Antonio, 4/222 (5/260 total)
Mikal Bridges, New York, 4/150 (5/175 total)
Kyrie Irving, Dallas, 3/119
James Harden, LA Clippers, 2/81
Keegan Murray, Sacramento, 5/140
Julius Randle, Minnesota, 3/100
Naz Reid, Minnesota, 5/125
Jabari Smith, Houston, 5/122
Fred VanVleet, Houston, 2/50
Jakob Poeltl, Toronto, 3/84 (4/104 total)
P.J. Washington, Dallas, 4/89 (5/103 total)
Herb Jones, New Orleans, 3/68 (5/96 total)
Daniel Gafford, Dallas, 3/54 (4/68 total)
Nikola Jovic, Miami, 4/62 (5/67 total)
Bobby Portis, Milwaukee, 3/44
A.J. Green, Milwaukee. 4/45 (5/47 total)
Jaylin Williams, Oklahoma, 3/24
Ajay Mitchell, Oklahoma, 3/9
Mo Wagner, Orlando, 1/5
Justin Edwards, Philadelphia, 3/7



Trades

Houston/Phoenix - Kevin Durant for Jalen Green, Dillon Brooks, Khaman Maluach (pick 10) & 5 2nd round picks
Orlando/Memphis - Desmond Bane for Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, Cole Anthony & 4 1sts (2025,2026,2028,2030)
Denver/Brooklyn - Cam Johnson for Michael Porter & 2032 first
Portland/Boston - Jrue Holiday for Anfernee Simons
Atlanta/Boston/Brooklyn - Kristaps Porzingis to Atlanta, Georges Niang to Boston, Terance Mann & Drake Powell to Nets
New Orleans/Washington - Jordan Poole & Saddiq Bey for CJ McCollum & Kelly Olynyk
Miami/LAC/Utah - Norm Powell to Miami, John Collins to Clippers, Kyle Anderson, Kevin Love & 2nd round pick to Utah
Charlotte/Utah - Collin Sexton & 2nd round pick for Jusuf Nurkic
Cleveland/Chicago - Lonzo Ball for Isaac Okoro
Phoenix/Charlotte - Mark Williams & 2nd round pick for Liam McNeely (pick 29) & 2029 1st
Detroit/Miami - Duncan Robinson (sign and trade) for Simeone Fontecchio
Denver/Sacramento - Jonas Valanciunas for Dario Saric
Washington/Houston - Cam Whitmore for two 2nd round picks
San Antonio/Washington - Kelly Olynyk for Malaki Branham, Blake Wesley & 2nd round pick
Charlotte/Milwaukee - Pat Connaughton & two 2nd round picks for Vasilije Milic
Utah/Boston - Georges Niang and two 2nd round picks for RJ Luis
Indiana/Memphis - Jay Huff for a 2nd round pick
Washington/Oklahoma - Dillion Jones & 2nd round pick for Colby Jones
Brooklyn/Miami - Haywood Highsmith & 2nd round pick for conditional 2nd round pick
Brooklyn/Atlanta - Kobe Bufkin for cash


Buyouts/Renouncing

Damian Lillard (Bucks) - $101 million
Bradley Beal (Suns) - $97 million
Deandre Ayton (Blazers) - $25 million
Marcus Smart (Wizards) - $15 million
Cole Anthony (Grizzlies) - $11 million
Jordan Clarkson (Jazz) - $11 million
Blake Wesley (Wizards) - $3.4 million
Spencer Dinwiddie (Hornets) - $3 million
Olivier-Maxence Prosper (Mavs) - $3 mil
Vasilije Micic (Bucks) - $2 million
Chris Livingston (Bucks) - $2 million
Jaden Springer (Jazz) - $450k
Richaun Holmes (Wizards) - $250k
Jordan Goodwin (Lakers) - nil
Shake Milton (Lakers) - nil
Cody Martin (Suns) - nil
Josh Okogie (Hornets) - nil
Drew Eubanks (Clippers) - nil
Jock Landale (Rockets) - nil

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

My gut tells me Pelicans get pick 1.....

 

[fidstar]

I'm not sure that's how it works.

 

[srobbo]

Tatum & Brown need to look after the ball. 10 TO’s between them & there’s still 1.5qtrs to go ffs!

 

[stewie griffen]

Sigh

 

[tigs2010]

From Chicago to Franga lol

 

[stewie griffen]

From Chicago to Franga lol

I see AKME's next trade targets

 

[Satan]

Dallas won cooper flagg lottery 1.8 % chance

 

[Burningleviathan]

Man, every team the loses a superstar seems to get a number 1 pick. Especially if that star goes to LA.
Except Houston who lost Harden. Spurs sucked for the first time in 20 years, so had to give them Wemby instead.

 

[stewie griffen]

How kissed on the dick is Nico

 

[FreoRicci]

Dallas won cooper flagg lottery 1.8 % chance

Meanwhile Washington get pick 6.
The lottery sucks

 

[stewie griffen]

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

With this draft quite guard heavy early on in the mix which suits all teams in it besides New Orleans who were really banking on pick 1.

 

[BEEG]

I can't believe Mavs got pick 1 unbelievable.

 

[larrikin]

So Dallas was right to trade Luca?

 

[Gak Attack]

I can't believe Mavs got pick 1 unbelievable.

Was agreed months ago let's be honest

 

[J Shuttlesworth]

Meanwhile Washington get pick 6.
The lottery sucks

Set the worst record of all time and you still don't get it

It does indeed suck.

 

[tigs2010]

Set the worst record of all time and you still don't get it

It does indeed suck.

MKG a great consolation...

 

[FreoRicci]

 

[Ashman23]

So for everyone watching at home. If you want pick one in the lottery just trade / let your best player go to the Lakers.

James (Cavs) FA
Davis (Pelicans) Trade
Doncic (Mavs) Trade
Reaves (Spurs) FA

Now, if only the Bulls had got into trading away Levine when we had the chance.

 

[Son of Skeletor]

The Mavs, Spurs and Sixers have won a lot of games in the last 10 years to be getting the top three picks in an allegedly top-heavy draft, but it is what it is I guess. Makes you wonder why a team like Miami even bothered to win the play-ins.

Pels have had their luck previously, so no point complaining about it going the other way. Our track record with picks in the middle of the lottery ain't exactly inspiring though. We traditionally enjoy trading the picks for win-now players who immediately suffer severe injuries. Or pick duds.

 

[Elmer_Hauser]

The Mavs, Spurs and Sixers have won a lot of games in the last 10 years to be getting the top three picks in an allegedly top-heavy draft, but it is what it is I guess. Makes you wonder why a team like Miami even bothered to win the play-ins.

Pels have had their luck previously, so no point complaining about it going the other way. Our track record with picks in the middle of the lottery ain't exactly inspiring though. We traditionally enjoy trading the picks for win-now players who immediately suffer severe injuries. Or pick duds.

I feel worst of all for Portland fans. The Blazers have been lower tier-mid for years, had no luck with previous lottery picks and re-signed a dud coach in Billups.

I just cannot believe that not one of the Jazz, Wizards or Pelicans (teams with of the worst 3 records in the league) didn't make the top 4 of the lottery.

I don't think it's rigged but maybe the NBA has to change the weigh-in laws (especially about longer-odd teams jumping up into the top 4, cause mathematically it doesn't add up having the Mavs and Spurs having the top two picks given pre lotto odds (got nothing against either team or franchise BTW)

 

[NSWCROW]

Actual footage of Nico

 

[tigs2010]

The Mavs, Spurs and Sixers have won a lot of games in the last 10 years to be getting the top three picks in an allegedly top-heavy draft, but it is what it is I guess. Makes you wonder why a team like Miami even bothered to win the play-ins.

Pels have had their luck previously, so no point complaining about it going the other way. Our track record with picks in the middle of the lottery ain't exactly inspiring though. We traditionally enjoy trading the picks for win-now players who immediately suffer severe injuries. Or pick duds.

Miami wanted to convey the OKC pick otherwise it was a lottery pick next year and reckon we will be complete dogshit

 

[Richard Cranium]

So for everyone watching at home. If you want pick one in the lottery just trade / let your best player go to the Lakers.

James (Cavs) FA
Davis (Pelicans) Trade
Doncic (Mavs) Trade
Reaves (Spurs) FA

Now, if only the Bulls had got into trading away Levine when we had the chance.

Reaves?