Will attract some attention this year and I'd imagine he will be on the radar of a number of clubs. Bombers and Suns are two clubs I could see having a decent crack at him. You'd think the Dogs would be keen to hold onto him though.
Free Agency Luke Dahlhaus [joins Geelong as an Unrestricted Free Agent]
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I think he'll be a North target.
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Goes without saying though really
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Lol, I did mean to preface it with I think we'll be way more quiet and bank what we have this season (with a likely high draft pick in play in this draft and access to some nice quality players) but age profile and cost wise Dahlhaus feels like the one we will go heavy on. Can't see us pushing too heavily on the remaining free agents this year based on positional need and age.
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He's a very good footballer, and I'm not saying clubs won't be after him, but I don't think he's worth premium dollars.
To me, he's a 3rd/4th mid type in a good side. He's not a #1 or #2 lead mid IMO. He's small, and isn't really elite in any area of being a mid - ball-winning, contested ball, clearances, metres gained, goal kicking, playmaking, tackling - so unless something changes in 2018 and he steps up his game considerably, I can see a lot of the offers being "overs" for what he's actually worth. I think the Bulldogs should do what they can to keep him, but I don't think he's worth them overpaying for. He's valueable, but not irreplaceable long-term.
Perhaps getting more of a full-time opportunity "in the guts" at another club is what he needs to make that step up into the elite category, but as he is, IMO if he's your best or second-best mid, then you're probably just not a very good side.
To me, he's a 3rd/4th mid type in a good side. He's not a #1 or #2 lead mid IMO. He's small, and isn't really elite in any area of being a mid - ball-winning, contested ball, clearances, metres gained, goal kicking, playmaking, tackling - so unless something changes in 2018 and he steps up his game considerably, I can see a lot of the offers being "overs" for what he's actually worth. I think the Bulldogs should do what they can to keep him, but I don't think he's worth them overpaying for. He's valueable, but not irreplaceable long-term.
Perhaps getting more of a full-time opportunity "in the guts" at another club is what he needs to make that step up into the elite category, but as he is, IMO if he's your best or second-best mid, then you're probably just not a very good side.
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I think he's shown an elite level of contested ball winning and tackling in the past but I agree in that he is suited to that 3rd/4th mid role as opposed to a 1 or 2 guy.
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He hasn't really. He's never been inside the top 30 in the league in tackles per game or clearances per game, and he's only once been inside the top 25 in contested possessions per game, in 2015.
It could be situation/opportunity that affects him progressing, but I don't think he's got the ability to be elite in those areas, and he's not really an elite playmaker from the midfield either.
He's a very good complimentary piece, but certainly not a cornerstone of a midfield.
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Let’s hope he wants to play close to home and have a surf
I heard Moggs creek is a nice place
Let’s hope he wants to play close to home and have a surf
I heard Moggs creek is a nice place
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A heart and soul type. Would be sad to see him move on but wouldn’t begrudge him being paid more than he’s worth elsewhere.
Has spoken about repaying the dogs for their faith as a rookie pick, reckon he’s done that.
Has spoken about repaying the dogs for their faith as a rookie pick, reckon he’s done that.
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Is this guy worth a million bucks as well? Like every player these days.
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Would you give up your 1st round pick and potentially 600-700k? I would think that is what the Dogs would want and what he would be looking at.
At 25 he will be looking to get paid well in his prime years. This is now his best chance.
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Don't North wave a million at anyone and everyone?
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Surely he's "actually worth" what someone is willing to pay.
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Well he's not a GWS player so the Blues wouldn't be interested!
Also not over 35 so I doubt the Eagles will have much interest either
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Well, not exactly. Clubs overpay for a variety of reasons.
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So there is some "intrinsic worth" that's distinct from what clubs are willing to pay?
How should we calculate that, if it's not actually determined by what a club would be willing to pay him?
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Well, it's fairly subjective.
Do you think based on his exposed output so far, all things being equal, that Dahlhaus genuinely deserves to be paid like a top-line midfielder? It's really only available cap space and required minimum TPP that will cause it to happen, because he's not an A-grade mid worthy of top dollar on talent alone.
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But the amount a club is willing to pay isn't.
That's what he's worth. Anything else is just your opinion or someone else's. The market is what matters.
Deserves? What is that?
There's a player coming into free agency and a club willing to pay x amount to get him. That is all.
Not every club would be willing to pay as much but if there's one club, that's all that matters.
Apparently McGovern is worth 1.2 million per season. That seems crazy to me but that's what the market is saying. Therefore, that's what he's worth. According to reports, anyway.
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Well yeah, I'm offering my opinion of Dahlhaus' worth, and haven't been claiming otherwise. In a market where "best player = highest paid", I'm not sure that Dahlhaus is on the lower end of the top 60-70 players in the league, therefore I don't think he should be paid like he is an elite superstar. Some clubs can and will offer him superstar money though, so IMO the Bulldogs should only pay so much to keep him, and not panic and overpay out of fear of losing a "homegrown" talent.
Surely it's obvious that there's probably going to be a difference between objective worth and the final pay cheque, due to some clubs' ability and willingness to pay more. That's what half the trade and free agency discussions on here are about, after all.
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