
Will give a more detailed response when I have time mate. You have gone excessively hard at Austin which I do take issue with. Less so Arli with Agresta with a longer tenure.Whose fault is it that we didn't have a lot of draft currency?
Trading first round picks for already 26 non-AA (at that point) half back flankers who would be in their 30s during our future premiership window is burning trade currency.
Trading first-round-picks for vanilla midfielders (albeit a very good footballer) who has already had serious soft tissue injuries before they get to the club burns trade currency.
Trading down in what was considered a top-loaded 2019 AFL Draft for two lower picks is burning trade currency.
3 consecutive years of trade currency that the club burnt.
Instead of continuing to build through the draft like a normal building organisation, the club became impatient, the highest selections that we've had between drafting Sam Walsh (1st in 2018) and Ollie Hollands (11th in 2022) are:
- Brodie Kemp, 17 in 2019
- Sam Philp, 20 in 2019
- Corey Durdin, 37 in 2020
- Jack Carroll, 41 in 2020
- Jesse Motlop, 27 in 2021
WITHOUT making the finals once.
All of this before Voss even got to the club.
You want to talk about not having draft capital?
We pissed it away.
The damage in this period came entirely during Brad Lloyd's reign of terror as the "general manager of football," Agresta was list manager and subsequently national recruiting manager and after Nick Austin became list manager.
And that's not even hammering on Agresta's tremendous eye for talent in selecting Dow and O'Brien the year before this mess.
e: And no, this isn't revisionist history. Many here were angry about ponying up so much for Saad. Most were against trading down in 2019. Many were concerned with Cerra's injury history at the time. Most of us rationalized it and accepted it but as fans what else can we do?
Serious question, we struggled to attract free agents for a very long time before grabbing Williams and Hewett. I was a voiceferous anti Saad for the price, but was absolutely all for Cerra. How much control do you think new boy Austin had over those decisions?
Answer SFA. Lloyd and Liddle had the reins and were trying to placate power brokers and supporters wanting to get some mature “stars” in to play beside the myriad of kids we had.
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Our current list management group has been trying to balance the list they (mostly Austin) inherited. Limited draft capital and lists of required types for the coaches. Misplaced priorities. We had no spare draft capital last period, and the majority on here wanted bloody Houston, (as did Voss) which was impossible. Austin held his ground. I have mixed feelings on the Jagga jostling exchanges and would probably have preferred two kids, the names of which are in our draft threads. Jagga wasn’t necessarily a mistake, particularly without hindsight. Make no mistake, give Voss the chance he will dull his speed in favour of contested traits. Lord has a rounded game(and was a great left field pick up) but Vossy deploys him as a defensive Plow horse, removing any offensive traits. His early pre season featured offensive running as a forward handballing link.
Is it List management’s fault Voss and team want to play a handful of lesser skilled smaller defensive role players rather than give a sniff to any offensively minded kids waiting in the wings. Moir in particular and White with more pace, who does the defensive running but can sniff a goal, as well as being a POD leftie. Evans did a couple of decent things, but such a conservative first SSP selection. Do you think Austin/Agresta had the selection? Or did they put candidates tall and small together for the coaches to select from?