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Shinboners,

Don't give him the satisfaction. It’s not worth it. It is absolutely useless arguing with him, as i'm sure u may have realised. Have a look at his posts over the past week. He's trying to bait us. I just see a sorry soul trying to find excuses for getting his sick fix- 2000 word essays reducing the game to just a market (where some clubs are "clogging" it up) and how the “business” of AFL  (irrespective of who it hurts), is the be all and end all and must flourish at any cost..... economic rationalism yada yada yada. He always goes on the side of the minority (him) or the totally ridiculous, just to get emotional replies. Well it's gonna end here with me.

He's just trying to get the followers of "meaningless" clubs worked up.... but guess what.... I'm gonna ignore what I just said above   ..... and argue with him…. for the last time EVER   .... Sniff Sniff 

Dan,

Biased and selfish if your club faced the axe hey- nooo??? this wouldn't be coming from the "I step out of an Essendon supporters shoes to be totaly neutral.... and if i was a supporter of the dogs/roos i would blatantly see that my club is inferior” man? ....yet goes on to say that only supporters of those specific clubs will know how it TRULY feels. You are a hypocrite. You alter views just to suit what you are arguing. But coming from a supporter of such an "integral" club....

Then this man.... u know who I’m talking about.... the “why would you get emotional when I say that your club is meaningless and the competition would continue unchanged if you were extinct” man.....  saying that “ I imagine Essendon on the verge of being extinct and I think how terrible it would be and how my stomach churns. I think of what my life is going to be like without Essendon”.

This guy (I think you have an idea who it is by now).... WAS saying (in the meaningless clubs thread)..... he would know exactly what it would be like to be in a position of not having your future assured.... yet in this thread he is saying .....  “so don't EVER tell me you know what it's like either”..... we wouldn’t be telling someone that their emotions are unique and only truly understood by fellow supporters of THEIR club….. would we Dan??

And in regards to the passion...  go read your own posts (in other threads)- trying to "measure" passion!!...BTW ... WTF??? .... What are u doing today Dan??... oh u know.... just measuring some passion (grams or litres dan)!?!?!?! .... anyway getting away from the reasoning for it... in that thread u implied that clubs with lower supporter bases have less passion.... and u went off at Tiger Tank.... for nominating some other clubs who could justifiably be regarded to have high levels of passion.... and for him having the “audacity” to challenge yours. Still being neutral bud? or were you in one of your biased moods again? But I’m sure you’ll set me straight by saying when you put yourself in a doggies supporters shoes….. you would be in awe of the bombers supporters passions..... don’t worry about the game..... “F*** me drunk.... look at the opposition supporters..... look at how passionate they are..... if only WE could be like that... BTW who’s winning??”. 

And in regards to your league being in such a better position argument- think 89 (Dogs)/ 96 (Hawks/ Demons)... and there’s your answer to why EVERY effort should have been made to save Fitzroy. Clubs go through troughs and peaks.... (except for Essendon of course) ....WTF is this “the comps better off now without them”... how the f*ck do you know that for sure??.... a clairvoyant  as well now are we???  Those clubs had their backs to the wall.... but are going great now.... had they of merged you would be saying.... “I mean they could have been saved.... But would this have been for the betterment of the competition???”.... and the Hawks and Demons even managed to escape your “meaningless” tag....

All this coming from the man who can pass as truly passionate and be “SUBjective” at the same time...   HAHAHA - the last line of his last post – .... I do/am/ can be passionate and SUBjective .....can u shinboners???….. hmmmmm” – what a classic!!.... I know it’s an honest mistake... but such irony.

See ya Dan- i'm not gonna let myself get involved in any of these debates with you again... call me a coward or whatever... or someone who knows when enough is enough....

And shinners- I’ll be buying the book to get a TRUE perspective on the events and emotions of people INVOLVED... Dan...