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I agree, we cannot play 2 ruckman AND the 3 tall forwards in the same side. The same goes for the people who want to play TDK (or Pitto) and Harry/Charlie/Gov/JSOS - it just doesn't work.

I think long-term TDK will be the better ruck, but you have to agree that Pitto was actually better last year than most acknowledge. Up forward you have Harry, Charlie and JSOS with Gov down back as a 3rd tall (had him there even before the Jones saga).

In terms of a chop out for TDK/Pitto, I'd have JSOS at centre bounces, Cripps at stoppages in the middle of the ground (maybe some F50 too), Harry taking most stoppages in the F50, and Young/OMac taking stoppages in our D50 (but only when their direct opponent is also rucking).

It's a little messy, but at least it doesn't compromise our speed and ball movement.