Topkent
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The irony of the amount of childish bullshit in this post from arguably the biggest w***er on the website isn't lost on anyone
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I mean he said it pretty well I thought.
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Don't sell yourself short.
Think JWP potentially saved a goal to be honest. Chelsea were away on a break with more numbers.
The way Ange wants Spurs to play just isn’t sustainable in a league like this. The players burnout quickly during a game and then during the season.
He obviously still needs to improve the squad too but even the best athletes will struggle over time with too many high pressing games.
As many have said before, he really needs to be able to change tactics when necessary. Whilst I respect his stubbornness to stick with the way he wants regardless of the situation, it’s pretty naive as a top level manager to be incapable of doing so.
He obviously still needs to improve the squad too but even the best athletes will struggle over time with too many high pressing games.
As many have said before, he really needs to be able to change tactics when necessary. Whilst I respect his stubbornness to stick with the way he wants regardless of the situation, it’s pretty naive as a top level manager to be incapable of doing so.
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I think Ange has already adjusted. He’s playing Maddison up the field more. Giving he and Kulusevski more space by not inverting the full backs as much therefore creating more midfield space. They were playing pretty good until that second half which looked more like poor defending by Udogie and Van de Ven in particular. Didn’t look like tactical issue. I think the naive accusation that’s continually being used against is more because of fact he’s an Aussie , not a known football country. Yet the most naive managers in England seem to be English.
Besides that I thought Ange should’ve used his subs earlier
Besides that I thought Ange should’ve used his subs earlier
Topkent
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Conceded less goals than Villa this season but apparently ange is a one trick pony with no tactical ability and Emery is a genius with no flaws.
You could say he failed to motivate his team or say he should have used more subs or earlier sure but the tactics have been fine this season and the goals weren't from high line counters they were from Udogie being shit.
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Why are you trying to compare Spurs and Villa?
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Read my post?
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Who called Emery a tactical genius with no flaws in this thread?
This season, OK. Eight games in. Is it going to be the same come the end of the season? Unlikely.
Who was better last season?
Who conceded less goals last season?
Who scored more?
Who finished higher?
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I would say the intensity that Ange has played at has dropped from Celtic to Tottenham season 1 and dropped again to Tottenham season 2. He has made adjustments.
I don’t watch every spurs game but plenty of pundits seem to be in agreeance.
Topkent
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Dunno why you took this so weird. Villas a great team. They finished 2 points above spurs last year so my point stands exactly the same. It's a lazy narrative by people
Lazier than the strawman the everyone loves Emery and thinks he’s a genius?
Genuine question. In your view, can Ange be successful, i.e. have measurable improvement from last year, with the current squad? Or can it only occur by adding new players?
Topkent
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Depends what you mean by success. I don't think even the craziest Tottenham fan thinks they have a better squad than Liverpool, City or arsenal so spurs are already 4th best at best. Villa have a good squad and coach arguably better in both, Chelsea have a better squad as well imo. I think any project to get Tottenham to the top will take more than 1 year and 7 games. Ten haag has won back to back cups but it means **** all because the leagues so difficult right now. I definitely think the squad needs work though, Timo Werner and Brennan Johnson ( as good a form as Johnson is in) are miles off a title challenging front line. Son is 33 and the other back up is a teenage Odobert and 17 year old Mikey Moore. The depth he added was 18 year old Gray and Bergvall.
It's why I don't like the over reaction week to week I think this squad is 2 years away from challenging if they make the right signings.
To my eye the team is better than last year this year. Shocking second half against Brighton but outside of that they've been pretty sound defensively and unlucky in attack. Imo spurs have been better this year than last year the table just doesn't show it.
I guess my question is, can Ange make the team better before he has the opportunity to change the players? My constant criticism of Arteta is he struggled to get the game plan to work without the ideal players. The fact he couldn't adapt when Saliba and Tomi got injured in the same game two seasons back was the difference in being in the title race until the end, and falling over in the last month.
On Arteta, I have been impressed with how he has managed this season far, so I think he has evolved as a coach.
Topkent
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Ah no I don't think he can to a point. I think he's kinda a Pep light, his system works better with better players. I mean his system as well as Timos movement has given Werner incredible chances at goal but he ****s them up. That's not on anges system. I think he will die on his hill trying to teach his system rather than changing it. Can't guarantee he will win a title or anything but give him better players and I reckon his system will go pretty well.
That's the thing though, Arteta you can say that about but really I think him and Klopp are just unlucky to be facing arguably the best coach of all time with the most resources. Both should be multiple times PL winners
To answer the original point, I don't think Ange can get this current team into the top 3 no. I also don't think many coaches could either though.
