Dusty elbowing
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Robbo picking on Dusty because he is a big named player. A pathetic attempt in trying to rationalise why Dusty needed to be suspended and Newcombe didn't.
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What did AFL360s love child Nick Daicos get for a gut punch on Acres in round 10? Oh, just a fine. So Dusty's fine is exactly in line with precedents.
End of story, get off the turps Robbo and matthew_s
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Poor from Dustin, clearly reactionary but needs to be more disciplined, HOWEVER - please explain how it’s worthy of suspension rather than a fine:
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Read the section on impact.
"Firstly, consideration will be given to the extent of force and in particular, any injury sustained by the Player who was offended against. The absence of injury does not preclude the classification of impact as Severe.
"Secondly, the potential to cause injury must be factored into the determination of Impact, particularly in the following cases:
- Intentional strikes, such as those with a swinging clenched fist, raised forearm or elbow
"In the case of any intentional strike, strong consideration will be given to the distance the incident occurs from the ball and the expectation of contact of the Victim Player."
The elbow was certainly intentional by Dusty, and the distance it was from the contest and the guidelines on strikes that have "potential to cause injury" should probably grade it higher than low impact.
Intentional, medium impact to the body, 1 week.
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I don't care if he plays against us or not, we'll probably lose either way, I'm just saying that suspensions have been given for similar hits previously.
As a Hawks fan, after the year we've had on that front, I just want consistency from the MRO / Tribunal.
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I'm trying to find a replay of the incident but I can't, if it satisfies the same criteria as Martin's hit then sure. I remember it gave them a free kick so if the suspension helps him remove that from his game he should cop a week.
IMO Alex Witherden should of copped a suspension for thrusting his solar plexus into Dustys elbow.
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Why is that medium impact? Witherden gets straight up and takes his free kick, continues playing. What would constitute low, a mean look towards an opposing player? And potential to cause what injury?
I’m not even against incidents like this being suspension worthy, just against deciding to go against the guidelines mid-game because it didn’t look very nice. Change it at season’s end or even between rounds with communication, or just accept it wasn’t worthy of suspension.
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I showed you where the medium impact is, there are a bunch of considerations where impact can change - it was miles off the contest and completely unexpected by Witherden, it was an elbow, and the absence of an injury does not preclude a higher classification.
On the potential to cause injury, all you need to do is look at Gaff on Brayshaw the other year. Gaff aimed a strike at Brayshaw's chest which according to this decision would have been a fine, but because Brayshaw chose that moment to lower himself slightly it copped him square on the jaw, the result was a broken jaw to Brayshaw and 8 weeks for Gaff. What if Witherden had chosen that moment to re-tie his laces or pull up his socks? It might sound ridiculous, but a blind swinging elbow could go that wrong.
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That sort of incident takes place every game, often multiple times. If we started rubbing players out for that then we've got issues.
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Same penalty.
Difference is Newcombe knew where he was hitting. Dusty swung an elbow behind him not having a clue where he was hitting.
So it should have received a potential to cause serious injury update which would be a week.
If Toby Greene did this noone would be surprised if he got a week.
That is what Robbo was saying and was right, for probably his one and only time this year.
That has never been a suspension. Get off it. If you want to talk about unfair, how about Picketts fine? ****ing pathetic.
You think the GOAT doesn’t know the exact spot his elbow is going to hit?
Dusty has been suspended previously but on the whole is a very fair player. Witherden was obviously hanging on to him illegally, Dusty told him to stop and he didn’t.
He’ll think twice next time.
Sounds like Daffy Duck
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I reckon he's got ill-fitting dentures in
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Wtf is going on there lmao
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There seems to be a greater scrutiny of Richmond players in the media.
If Dangerfield did that,you would not hear about it from the media.
If Daicos did it,nothing to see here.
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oh no, the big bad media out to get Richmond…I bet they planted the Pickett evidence too
All intentional elbow/stomach punches should be a week.
When players are being suspended for tackles which don’t injure players and are a perfect tackle but it’s due to the action, then penalise this action too.
Not needed in the game.
When players are being suspended for tackles which don’t injure players and are a perfect tackle but it’s due to the action, then penalise this action too.
Not needed in the game.
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This is what Robbo should have said.
I'll add, off the ball, not in play hits should also be a week.
