List Mgmt. Our Trade/FA, Suburban & Country Town Thread

[sr36]

Zeke Uwland - brother of Bodhi.
The Suns will have another crop of top class Academy players next year.

Great ...

It's going to be a long era of Northern domination.

 

[Tadpole]

Great ...

It's going to be a long era of Northern domination.

Once GC starts making finals, watch out.

 

[sr36]

Just want today to be over and done with so we can move onto trades.

What's happening today?

 

[manicpie]

I don’t want Young because he lacks hardness and competitiveness which are major weaknesses in a defender.
No surprise Voss who values those traits wants to move him.

I just think he's a slight upgrade on our 3 mentioned players. I think he's pretty good 1 on 1 but I wouldn't lose sleep if he wasn't in our plans

 

[Football God]

Sam Edmund saying we’ve got Perryman. Him and family are all diehard Collingwood supporters.

Port are offended Carlton aren’t offering Pick 11 and are going to give a future first and Matt Owies (Lol)

We want Lord, Port want him to stay. Nothing new.

Trade radio starts Monday!

 

[manicpie]

Once GC starts making finals, watch out.

Pretty much

 

[Fruit]

Has anyone seen enough of Perryman to rate him and give an opinion as to how he can help us?

 

[stormskye]

Has anyone seen enough of Perryman to rate him and give an opinion as to how he can help us?

If fly and Leppa want him that’s enough for me more than YouTube reviews

 

[danielnajdek]

Has anyone seen enough of Perryman to rate him and give an opinion as to how he can help us?

Help for Nick.

 

[manicpie]

Great ...

It's going to be a long era of Northern domination.

Basically, the best 6 players were all academy picks, it was hard to watch

 

[Apex36]

Doubt it. He's done his ACL unfortunately, but we rate him highly.

If trading Harrison helped net us Houston we’d be signing the deal before you could say boo.

 

[sideswipe]

Speaking of a midfield superstar like Petracca, I heard directly from a board member of MelbFC that Petracca is truly pissed at the club and is a certainty to be at the Pies in 2026. This may be an influence on how we deal with F1 this year. Might even limit how hard we go at Houston? Obviously a long way to go and I'm not sure about the guy's judgement (in 2023 he was sure Melb were going to win and was dismissive of the Pies!) I think it does confirm Trac's mindset thou

What a terrible board member. They should resign


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[ElliottsMaggies]

If trading Harrison helped net us Houston we’d be signing the deal before you could say boo.

Sure. But I'm just not sure why Port would be interested in giving us Houston for a guy who won't be playing next year.

 

[sr36]

Basically, the best 6 players were all academy picks, it was hard to watch

The academy advantages are only just beginning to really impact, with the first ones taken, Heeney and Andrews, now 28/27 and at their peak. And we've already got academy teams as 3 of the top 4 teams. I think the AFL have over-cooked it massively. The rest of the comp will be fighting for 4 spots in the 8.

 

[Professor Knowall]

Has anyone seen enough of Perryman to rate him and give an opinion as to how he can help us?

This opinion was offered yesterday -

- NEW POSTER & URGENT - RE: HARRY PERRYMAN -

Hi guys,

Been reading these forums for 20 years but felt compelled to register an account and give my thoughts account after seeing that we are looking to offer Harry Perryman a godfather offer to come to the pies.

As an avid footy watcher, I have always thought Perryman was an ok if not average player, but definitely a player that has never stood out.
I think many of us have probably had an inflated view of his quality, based on the fact that he has always been a regular in a pretty strong GWS team.

Anyway, considering the reports that we have offered Perryman a godfather circa 7-year $850k (based on media estimates) I felt compelled to do more research on him.

This led me to a feature on the AFL app which lets you view every possession/contest a player has been involved in during a game over the last few years.

For anyone that wants to do this for themselves go onto the AFL app click on the stats tab and then enter a players name in the search box and then click highlights, and each game will pop up to select.

I did this for Perryman and what I found was pretty underwhelming.
After seeing majority of his possessions/involvements in his games over the last few years, it is pretty clear that Perryman is NOT a player we should be targeting, especially at the wages/years quoted.

In summary:

• He is a very slow player (which most of us know), but this is further exacerbated by the fact that he seems to always coast/jog through play, very rarely taking the game on, which really limits his effectiveness as a rebounder.
• Most of his possessions are uncontested / under no pressure, and consist of chips around the back 50 and wings.
• In the rare occasion that he has the ball under pressure or tries to open up play, he seems to always make an error disposing of the ball (which was a suprise as he has always been talked about as a smart/good user).
• He looks to be a relatively average (if not poor) level one-on-one defender and has shown almost zero evidence of being an effective intercept marker.
• Overall, he just seems to be an awkward style footballer, who is a 5/10 in most areas but doesn’t excel at any particular aspect of the game.

While I understand the need to replace Noble, it is pretty clear that Perryman is not the answer. In fact, if that’s what we wanted, then Perryman’s fellow-free agent teammate Isaac Cumming is the answer, who is practically a taller, quicker, stronger, better marking version of Noble - noting that Cumming has only received 4-year deals from SA. Someone like Nick Hind is a cheaper alternative.

Would love someone else to go through the same exercise and see if they come to a different conclusion. I personally struggle to see any evidence/passages of play to suggest he is worth any more than $450-500k p.a.
While I more than most hope Perryman turns out to be a great player for the club (if he does sign), the more I look at this pursuit the more it wreaks of desperation. We have worked so hard to correct the salary cap, only to fail to find any suitable targets, to the point we are now overreaching for a vanilla run-of-the mill player we don’t need. I personally would rather bank the money for someone that can push us closer to another premiership.

Previously, I have had the same sinking feeling when we traded:

• Our future 1st in 2020 for practically peanuts (which cost us a 15-year superstar in Fin Callaghan);
• and our future 1st in 2023 (which ultimately cost us Petracca this year).

Let’s hope this short-sighted move doesn’t cost us LDU/Brayshaw/Rayner in 2025 or Ben King in 2026.

FWIW - I did the same exercise for James Peatling and have a much more positive outlook on his potential. Looks to be a more dynamic version of James Row-bottom/Jack Steele.

 

[manicpie]

The academy advantages are only just beginning to really impact, with the first ones taken, Heeney and Andrews, now 28/27 and at their peak. And we've already got academy teams as 3 of the top 4 teams. I think the AFL have over-cooked it massively. The rest of the comp will be fighting for 4 spots in the 8.

I hope the AFL are onto this because the gap is going to be ridiculous in a few years.

 

[danielnajdek]

The academy advantages are only just beginning to really impact, with the first ones taken, Heeney and Andrews, now 28/27 and at their peak. And we've already got academy teams as 3 of the top 4 teams. I think the AFL have over-cooked it massively. The rest of the comp will be fighting for 4 spots in the 8.

Brisbane and Sydney shouldn't be allowed Academy players anymore. They have father sons coming through now.

 

[Chameleon75]

What's happening today?

start of snapper season

 

[sr36]

I hope the AFL are onto this because the gap is going to be ridiculous in a few years.

When it comes to the academies, the AFL's two big overarching aims are competing - growing the game and running an equitable comp. The academies are clearly part of a great job in terms of growing the game with so many of the top kids now coming from the rugby states. **** knows which aim the AFL prioritise, but it looks to me like it's growing the game at the moment.

 

[What is a cakewalk]

When it comes to the academies, the AFL's two big overarching aims are competing - growing the game and running an equitable comp. The academies are clearly part of a great job in terms of growing the game with so many of the top kids now coming from the rugby states. **** knows which aim the AFL prioritise, but it looks to me like it's growing the game at the moment.

I actually don't think it's a horrible thing. The afl have hopefully done a decent job getting ahead of it with the harsher points system. At some point these clubs are going to have to weigh up the cost of list turnover to accommodate all the new kids vs having 35 ready to go mature bodies to try and win a flag.

 

[DopeMaster]

Once GC starts making finals, watch out.

I’ve been hearing this since they entered the league.

It would seem that a glut of talented kids does not a premiership make.

Probably the purest example against the ‘bottom out get heaps of good draft picks’ list build philosophy.

 

[sr36]

I actually don't think it's a horrible thing. The afl have hopefully done a decent job getting ahead of it with the harsher points system. At some point these clubs are going to have to weigh up the cost of list turnover to accommodate all the new kids vs having 35 ready to go mature bodies to try and win a flag.

Like every team, they have to take kids at the draft. The new points system is still an advantage where you will get access to kids favourably if you're lucky enough to have priority access to the top kids. They'll simply be adding higher rated kids than other teams do. In a way they won't be bound be the equality building aspects of the draft like most other good teams are.

 

[sr36]

I’ve been hearing this since they entered the league.

It would seem that a glut of talented kids does not a premiership make.

Probably the purest example against the ‘bottom out get heaps of good draft picks’ list build philosophy.

Adding talented kids into an established team is different to a start up of talented kids.

Let's face it, we'd be a bottom six list without having got lucky with draft concessions. They've got that luck built in.

 

[TradeDraft]

Just want today to be over and done with so we can move onto trades.

Still over a Week before Trade Period Starts

 

[TradeDraft]

Sam Edmund saying we’ve got Perryman. Him and family are all diehard Collingwood supporters.

Want more sources then just Adam Edmund