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BUYING A GREYHOUND is it fun can u make a Profit is it ezy how to find a good dog what to look for
 
1. It is very fun - if you are prepared to have low expectations.
2. Very hard to make a profit, first you got to get it to the track if you buy a pup.. which isn't guaranteed.
3. If you want a good dog go down to Anakie farms and talk to Geoff Bate, brother of Graeme, he will bring them up, train them to chase and make them race ready for you.
 

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It's fun, but it's also disappointing at times.

There are unscrupulous people in the industry, so buyer beware.

Don't try to save money by cutting corners, make sure your dog always has the best.

Don't forget they are only animals, not machines.

Consider the posibility before you buy of what you will do with the dog if it doesn't make the race track, they make brilliant pets so even if you dont get much return financially from them you can get years of enjoyment out of them after they their racing career ends.

If it's a hobby you really want to get right into, study as much as you can about bloodlines.


Be aware that just because it's a greyhound doesn't mean it will automatically want to run fast and chase after a lure, a % won't.

And finally if you are only going in it for the money, don't bother.
 
I have been involved in a few greyhound syndicates and whilst they were fun, certainly almost impossible to make a profit that way. It also frustrated me that I didn't have a lot of say in the dogs.

Therefore a mate and I bought pups and have watched them grow up from a young age. We don't rear them on our property (they are at a rearing property in SA), but we generally make an effort to visit them every fortnight to walk them and put a bit of work into them. They are now a fortnight away from being broken in and the really exciting (nervous) time is about to hit. We can name our own pups (something you often can't do in syndicate dogs) and am in the process of sussing trainers out. This has been a very rewarding process for us, and if any make it to the track I'm sure there will be a few tears during their first run, and even moreso if they happen to win.

In recommending buying pups, it certainly isn't for making a profit. We would have spent around 7k per pup by the time they hit the track (if they do at all) and that means each one would have to win 14k in prizemoney as the trainers often take 50% of any winnings. If you want to make any money at all in owning a greyhound, i suggest you buy yourself a quality broodbitch. 2 of our pups are beautifully bred bitches with the hope one day they will become broodys for us. This process will likely cost more up front, but if you get a good litter of pups you can generally sell them for at least 1-2k each. There are risks in anything involved in greyhound racing, so a broody doesn't guarantee a profit (they could have a small litter) its probably the best way to go in the greyhound industry. It would mean, however, that you wouldn't necesarilly have any dogs racing.

It really depends which order you prioritise what you are looking to get from the greyhound industry.
A good night out with mates while you watch your dog(s) go around - syndicate. Little chance of making much of a profit.
You want to take full ownership of rearing and racing your greyhound - your own dog(s). Slight chance of making a profit.
You don't care so much about the racing but have money to spend up front in hope of making a profit - broody. Average chance of making a profit.
 
I understand what you are saying sirdaan (i think i remember talking to you about your pups ages ago) but only a small percentage will ever finish in front in greyhound racing. The best thing to do for beginners imo is to buy a share in a syndicate learn the basics then if they want buy on their own.
 
bulldogrob said:
I understand what you are saying sirdaan (i think i remember talking to you about your pups ages ago) but only a small percentage will ever finish in front in greyhound racing. The best thing to do for beginners imo is to buy a share in a syndicate learn the basics then if they want buy on their own.
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I have to agree.

When i got my first dog 15 years ago we made mistakes along the way with him because we didn't know the game/industry.

If we had started in a syndicate type environment and been able to learn from the people looking after the dog we'd have avoided some of those mistakes.

Happily though i can say that the dog i mentioned celebrates his 15th brithday in March (fingers crossed, the hot weather knocks him about a bit).
 
Yeah, sure. totally understand if you are new to the game. I was just adressing his questions re. can you make a profit. As i mentioned, I started off in a syndicate also. I don't think it was the syndicate that taught me things about the industry, but moreso the fact that I was visiting the track, reading forums, chatting to trainers etc which being in a syndicate motivated me to do.
 

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AndSmithMustScore said:
Unless the rules have changed i think you're only allowed 13 letters ;)
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Actually it's 16 including spaces.

Some very good points being made here. Don't expect to make money from it because most people don't. I agree with most of the posts, that is, less financial risk joining a syndicate but less involvement. For a beginner a syndicate is the best way to go while you learn a bit about the game. Try to get one of your mates involved with you to go to the races with.

I recommend joining one of the Wahoo syndicates as mentioned by bulldogrob because he's honest and not there to make money off you.

www.wahoo-racing.com

Buying a pup specifically as a potential brood is expensive and a very long term option, something I've done 3 times since 2001 and still have no pups ready to even break in due to typical bad luck.
 
This is my story..................................................... i always followed the dogs etc used to bet on them. One night at the track decided to buy one. So that night went on the net had a look at www.justgreyhounds.com

The next day rang the breeder and then drove all the way to their place. Saw a pup i liked paid the bloke the asking price and left. The pup was sent to a rearer he recommended. I knew SFA about dogs. Turns out the rearer didnt take very good care of her. She was reared by herself in a run untill 14 months of age. I now know thats a no no!!! Well she never made the racetrack.


Then meet a few guys on a greyhound forum. We started a syndicate and bought a dog. I have learnt a ********load through dealing with him(the dog) and his trainer/s.


I also now have another pup on the way and look forward to getting more eventually in the future. I now know enough about the industry not to get ripped off etc.


Before jumping in and getting your own i would join a syndicate and learn the basics.

You can spend $400-$600 on a share of a ready to race racedog and have a ball with no more to pay. No, you want win much money but you wont lose alot either.
 
My experience was i followed the dogs for quite a few years from around 16-20.

The when i was working and had the cash, a mate and i got together and spent $1500 on a Malawi's Prince pup from a top South Aussie bitch called Classy Kyaaron(from the famous Tinahue lines).

Fortunately he was reared very well and the people who reared him would eventually train him they liked him so much.

Even with all these things going for us mistake were still made and the dog never reached his bloodlines potential, only winning a few races.

After that i really got into the bloodlines of greyhounds and the next two dogs i had only cost $800 each.

One won 3 in a row in the city before doing a hock.

The next won Greyhound of the Year at Geelong.

To me this proved you don't have to spend huge amounts of money to get a winner, but what you need is to understand the bloodlines that give you a greater chance of finding a winner.
 
sprockets said:
Some very good points being made here. Don't expect to make money from it because most people don't. I agree with most of the posts, that is, less Buying a pup specifically as a potential brood is expensive and a very long term option, something I've done 3 times since 2001 and still have no pups ready to even break in due to typical bad luck.
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I know where ya comming from.

Had a litter from my city class bitch only to lose all but 1 of the 9 pups to Canine Distemper in a freakishly piece of bad luck as it was one week before their last injection.

Then the only pup that didn't get CD was trialling very well and looked city class, only for him to get brought down from behind in a trial and break his neck.
 

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bulldogrob said:
Who was your dog that won greyhound of the year at Geelong?
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A little black and white bitch called Janie Jones.

Probably the slowest dog ever to win a Geelong GOTY. :D

Didn't start racing til nearly 3 then raced nearly every week for a year.

Very much a little iron dog.

Because the trainer couldn't travel much she raced mostly as Geelong.

So she accumulated a fair amount of point during the season.

I think the 2nd dog was about 40 points away.
 
sirdaan said:
I have been involved in a few greyhound syndicates and whilst they were fun, certainly almost impossible to make a profit that way. It also frustrated me that I didn't have a lot of say in the dogs.
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:thumbsu: I understand what you are saying SIRDAAN, and couldnt agree more. That's why I created a syndication website for greyhounds myself, and every member gets to vote on decisions involving the dogs syndicated.

http://www.greyhoundsyndications.com

I stress to every member that we are in them for fun, and not to make a profit. There are very very few people who make a regular profit from greyhound racing. (*A certain St. Kilda/Sydney legend springs to mind.

If anyone has a query on syndicates please drop me a line.

Waz.

iceman@primusonline.com.au
 

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