Rumour Bluemour Discussion XXXVI - 'Loopy' Season in full swing

[Blue_Fusion]

Heard the exact same thing about the Cats and look what happened

Not a like for like scenario...

 

[reg_lower91]

Why would GCS accept that trade?

It's actually not a bad deal for GC...

Their first round selection this year is worthless to them because their academy player (Leo Lombard) will go around that mark anyway and they'll be able to match a bid for him with a bunch of third or fourth rounders anyway. So you either draft him with that pick or get rid of it and get him anyway.

So in this instance, they turn a worthless pick for them this year in to another first rounder next year. Worst case scenario is Pies finish first next year and their pick goes from 13 to 18. Don't think that'll happen so their pick next year will probably be comparable to what it was this year.

Essentially prices John Noble at a second round pick, which is about right. Both parties win in the trade I think.

 

[bmaurizio]

Exactly Cats and Pies are streets ahead, arrogant and direct they will take risks, achieve their targets most times and win premierships.

 

[TrueQldBlue]

I care about any hope of winning a flag in the next year or two. Don't think that happens by going to the draft, in my opinion.
Seems like the pies have a different strategy, i guess time will tell but they at least have a flag to show for it.

I care also...
Our window is now and Austin & Co better get some ready made good players in the door to help us get there.
1995 was a long friggin time ago.

We will be drafting at least 4 kids and this needs to happen for our future...but we have to look at our window now as well.

I have paid membership for 25 years and I would really like another friggin cup please.

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[Beer n Skittles]

It's actually not a bad deal for GC...

Their first round selection this year is worthless to them because their academy player (Leo Lombard) will go around that mark anyway and they'll be able to match a bid for him with a bunch of third or fourth rounders anyway. So you either draft him with that pick or get rid of it and get him anyway.

So in this instance, they turn a worthless pick for them this year in to another first rounder next year. Worst case scenario is Pies finish first next year and their pick goes from 13 to 18. Don't think that'll happen so their pick next year will probably be comparable to what it was this year.

Essentially prices John Noble at a second round pick, which is about right. Both parties win in the trade I think.

Except they’ve got other clubs offering plenty for their 1st round pick this year, in fact it’s turning into a bidding war. Certainly not worthless

 

[TrueQldBlue]

I wouldn't offer more than F1+F2 for #13, unless it was meaningless picks this year

No way we should offer more than that....I don't even like that.

Next year we will rue that decision when our first Draft pick is in the 60's..

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[The Bighouse]

It's actually not a bad deal for GC...

Their first round selection this year is worthless to them because their academy player (Leo Lombard) will go around that mark anyway and they'll be able to match a bid for him with a bunch of third or fourth rounders anyway. So you either draft him with that pick or get rid of it and get him anyway.

So in this instance, they turn a worthless pick for them this year in to another first rounder next year. Worst case scenario is Pies finish first next year and their pick goes from 13 to 18. Don't think that'll happen so their pick next year will probably be comparable to what it was this year.

Essentially prices John Noble at a second round pick, which is about right. Both parties win in the trade I think.

John Noble is not a R2 draft pick in any way, shape or form.

 

[Pablito]

16 and 21 for our 32, F1 and F2.

 

[The Bighouse]

No way we should offer more than that....I don't even like that.

Next year we will rue that decision when our first Draft pick is in the 60's..

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Can’t be done. We’re targeting ESS F2 in our dealings.

A couple of NGA’s to consider too.

 

[BIuebagger]

Haynes and draft. Austin couldn’t be clearer I think, Houston interest is there but Pies seem like they’re gonna get him with what they have planned. I’m not completely happy with it but see reason with Tas concessions coming through and it being a strong draft. But to potentially lose Kennedy, Owies, Young, Carroll and not strengthen the best 23 will hurt us imo. We are in a position to have a red hot crack at 17, after years of going to the draft. Just seems like our eggs are too much in one basket with what Austin said.

 

[swuzzlebubble]

What realistic offer could we make without #13?

That we'll give them 2 first round next year if Houston can wait a year (current F1 & 2026 r1)

 

[TrueQldBlue]

Can’t be done. We’re targeting ESS F2 in our dealings.

A couple of NGA’s to consider too.

What are we giving Essendon back?

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[carlton_99]

That we'll give them 2 first round next year if Houston can wait a year (current F1 & 2026 r1)

Wouldn't be giving that up for Houston now let alone with him a year older imo. Plus we will likely need that 26' pick for Walker jnr

 

[Sam The Doc]

Looks like Houston will land at the Pies. Joe Richards was the key to it. Looking like it'll be...

Noble + F1 to GCS for picks 13 + 23
Richards + picks 13+23 to Port for Houston (plus some change back in return)

And here i was barracking for PA to go deep into finals... whoops

 

[blueboy25]

That we'll give them 2 first round next year if Houston can wait a year (current F1 & 2026 r1)

So with the expected changes to F/S and academy picks we will likely need our 2026 1 for Cody Walker if he continues on his current path.

 

[CFC_#17]

Looks like Houston will land at the Pies. Joe Richards was the key to it. Looking like it'll be...

Noble + F1 to GCS for picks 13 + 23
Richards + picks 13+23 to Port for Houston (plus some change back in return)

That is a terrible trade for Gold Coast, they could get a future first for pick 23. John Noble isn’t worth a top 30 pick.

 

[carlton_99]

 

[Pablito]

Can’t be done. We’re targeting ESS F2 in our dealings.

A couple of NGA’s to consider too.

Our pick 34 for * F2 seems fair. As they would expect to move up the ladder next year.

 

[Arr0w]

Looks like pick 13 and Houston off to the Pies, so we move on to trying to extract another pick in the top 30 elsewhere

 

[manang magoos]

And releases Daicos to full time midfield

He will kill it in there the contested ball beast that he is
not

 

[Dunna Heartknee]

Let the filth have him,
* have been winning this time of year for years on end and look where it has gotten them.

 

[Mondyboy]

This feels like another Dylan Shiel

9

Dylan Shiel

Age

31

Ht

182cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

24.6

5star

K

12.3

5star

HB

12.2

5star

M

3.1

3star

T

3.9

5star

CL

4.9

5star

D

23.4

5star

K

13.6

5star

HB

9.8

5star

M

2.2

2star

T

3.4

4star

CL

6.4

5star

D

19.8

5star

K

8.4

4star

HB

11.4

5star

M

2.4

3star

T

2.6

4star

CL

3.8

5star

situation, but not as drawn out.

 

[RPCB]

Let the filth have him,
* have been winning this time of year for years on end and look where it has gotten them.

Collingwood have been making PF’s, GF’s and winning premierships. Collingwood getting better most trade/FA periods is nothing like *.

 

[Lukeblueboy]

If we miss Houston, then we move on.
What else does Austin have up his sleeves?

 

[DrTrain]

Do we know how the points will work next year for academy and father sons? Pies may need their future first to match a bid.