Very similar achievements as captains of dynasty teams, who was the best and most inspirational leader?
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Oh so hodge, Voss and Selwood didn’t have premierships?I think Voss & Hodge will be seen greater than Cotchin & Selwood by the wider AFL public.
But I wouldn't trade Cotchin for no one he captained our 3x premierships that's all that matters to me "Premierships"
He's a Richmond supporter. Has only seen Richmond play.Oh so hodge, Voss and Selwood didn’t have premierships?
Bugger.
What's what matters to you got to do with this thread?I think Voss & Hodge will be seen greater than Cotchin & Selwood by the wider AFL public.
But I wouldn't trade Cotchin for no one he captained our 3x premierships that's all that matters to me "Premierships"
Hodge, Voss & Cotchin all won 3 premierships as captain, ofc I'm going pick the guy that played for my club really doesn't make sense to pick anyone else.He's a Richmond supporter. Has only seen Richmond play.
What impact does constant staging have on a reputation?
Selwood inherited a team on the way down. We stayed competitive, but nothing like the 2007-11 side. By the time he was made captain our midfield was pretty gutted, and the team was not the same. We actually got closer than we deserved some years under him. Mainly because of him. He carried our midfield for years. Doesn't have the same record as the others, but he was the best leader for our club in my time, and I'm pretty old.
Get back to us next year after Ginni has played a few gamesWhat impact does constant staging have on a reputation?
If we can't get it out of his game then i will happily call him on it. I didn't like it when puopolo did it either.Get back to us next year after Ginni has played a few games
To be fair hes knocked most of it out of his gameIf we can't get it out of his game then i will happily call him on it. I didn't like it when puopolo did it either.
It does seem to be trending well. I think there is a huge amount of potential there. He is a player who seems to just have good footy nous, and that is something you can work with. Bruest doesn't have particularly great athletic characteristics, but he just seems to know how to play football. I would be ecstatic if Ginni could be a mini Bruest.To be fair hes knocked most of it out of his game
I feel like when push come to shove, Selwood wilted terribly, especially during that transition period. People forget how terribly Selwood played in 2015 when he finally, truly became ‘the man’. It was Dangerfield who was recruited for 2016 that rejuvenated the side and re-galvanised leadership.Selwood inherited a team on the way down. We stayed competitive, but nothing like the 2007-11 side. By the time he was made captain our midfield was pretty gutted, and the team was not the same. We actually got closer than we deserved some years under him. Mainly because of him. He carried our midfield for years. Doesn't have the same record as the others, but he was the best leader for our club in my time, and I'm pretty old.
I feel like when push come to shove, Selwood wilted terribly, especially during that transition period. People forget how terribly Selwood played in 2015 when he finally, truly became ‘the man’. It was Dangerfield who was recruited for 2016 that rejuvenated the side and re-galvanised leadership.
Cotchin is in a similar-ish situation; remember that kicking against the wind fiasco vs Port Adelaide. But Cotchin has a Brownlow and seemed to get back to his best (and play some genuinely great football, better than Selwood) during the Tiger’s run.
I guess my main contention is that Selwood’s always been lauded as a courageous leader but he’s always only played well when he’s had stars upon stars surrounding him… and when he’s ‘the man’ (luckily for his reputation for just one year in 2015) he’s floundered.
Hodge and Voss were just monsters.
Hodge a bit ahead for me because he went to Brisbane when they were developing and transitioning from a dark period and clearly being a leader in just his first year.
If only there was a leader who won a Charlie when he was even younger and suffered a worse leg injury we could compare in this scenario...Cotchin won a Charlie about 20 years old and would have been remarkable if he didn't get the leg injury.
as players: Selwood > Hodge > Cotchin & Voss, but as leaders: Hodge & Voss > Selwood > CotchinVery similar achievements as captains of dynasty teams, who was the best and most inspirational leader?