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Soft.
 
He must be injured cos he has been useless all year and was again today as well. Give hime the rest of the year off and get him right for next year. He should also be replaced as vice-captain!
 

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He certainly shouldn't have been playing most games if he's injured. The only reasoning I can think of is that Laids wants him in the side because of the slight chance he actually lights it up and controls the game..
 
He has to be injured. There can't be any other explanation - he just lacked that zip. There was one bit of play with him and Aussie Jones chasing a loose ball, and Jones just ran away with the ball.

But that contest against Jones should also force Roos fans to keep one thing in mind. Good players who have slumps can get out of them.

I know people talk about our erratic forwards (especially Petrie) being one reason why it looks like we'll miss out on finals, but I reckon that missing out on Boomer's best form has also hurt us badly.
 
Shinboners said:
I know people talk about our erratic forwards (especially Petrie) being one reason why it looks like we'll miss out on finals, but I reckon that missing out on Boomer's best form has also hurt us badly.
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So true. Boomer, S Grant and Petrie have all had seasons better left to be forgotten and that they are unlikely to have again, yet we've been on the verge of the 8 for most of the season.
 
Dont get me wrong here he is a good player WITH THE BALL! Too many times do u see him go to ground if he isnt going to get it or chase half assed. not sure who it was against the saints possibly del santo (who flogged us) and harvey was running in from the wing to tackle and missed del santo who put it on Gehrigs chest. its those efforts that let him down. Petrie may not be able to get all that much of the ball but he chases hard makes a contest and does the 1% things
 
Shinboners said:
Thinking about how Aussie Jones has been able to set up play off the backline, does anybody here think that Boomer has a future doing a similar role for us? The chief negative would be question marks over the defensive side of his game, but we know he can run and deliver the ball well.
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Could work I guess, but with Trotter, Urch and even Sansbury set to play consistent senior footy over the next couple of years, it seems like it may be unneccessary.

I think the difference between Harvey and Aussie Jones is that Harvey at his best is a consistent match winner in the front half. Jones is like Joel Smith and Matty Lappin in the sense that he will gather a truckload of kicks and set up play in the backhalf, but I don't see them having the ability to consistently kick 3-4 goals in the middle and up forward and break open teams from the centre square and forward. Makepeace and Sinclair play that Jones role well anyway.

As you say, he's too good to be playing like he is, it seems we're just waiting for a break out game everyweek that doesn't seem to be forthcoming.
 
Shinboners said:
Thinking about how Aussie Jones has been able to set up play off the backline, does anybody here think that Boomer has a future doing a similar role for us? The chief negative would be question marks over the defensive side of his game, but we know he can run and deliver the ball well.
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Jones can pinpoint a target 50-60 metres away. Boomer would be lucky to kick that far even if he got onto a torp. Boomer also would be too valuable in front of goals, kicking his couple every week.

What we really need is for him to regain his form of last year in the midfield!
 
What we also really need is for Boomer to develop a left side.

All too often you see him run back onto his right foot and into trouble. I can remember one example of that yesterday as he ran into our F50.

Opposition clubs deliberately zone him off to his left side.

Actually, come to think of it, I reckon we have way too many one-sided players....especially in our midfield. None of Harvey, Grant, Simpson, Jones or Rawlings are overly comfortable, or competent, on their opposite foot.
 

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It was a mistake to play him yesterday. He was clearly injured. You could tell when he walking or jogging that there was no fluency in his step. So given that he is coming off a B&F year, I'm prepared to give him the summer to get fit again before coming to any conclusions as to where he's at.

As to his role, I'd have him mainly as a forward with a few runs on the ball to break things up. He has that instinct around goals that you can't teach.
 
year of the roo said:
Jones can pinpoint a target 50-60 metres away. Boomer would be lucky to kick that far even if he got onto a torp. Boomer also would be too valuable in front of goals, kicking his couple every week.

What we really need is for him to regain his form of last year in the midfield!
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Clearly you know nothing about Boomer if you think he can't kick 50-60 metres on a torp.

I agree with soggyboy about the one-sidedness of our midfielders. It's partly the reason why Brisbane are so damn good, Black, Voss, Akermanis, Johnson, all kick bloody well on their non-dominant side and aren't afraid to use them. What I fould encouraging from Chad Jone's point of view was his goal was on the non-dominant side for him for 40 out when he had time. He looked like a natural
 
NeoBlaze said:
Clearly you know nothing about Boomer if you think he can't kick 50-60 metres on a torp.
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Clearly you know nothing about North going by your past 2700 posts. At least you have lost the 'Roo Guru' tag. I have always been strongly against false advertising!
 
SoggyBoy said:
What we also really need is for Boomer to develop a left side.

All too often you see him run back onto his right foot and into trouble. I can remember one example of that yesterday as he ran into our F50.

Opposition clubs deliberately zone him off to his left side.

Actually, come to think of it, I reckon we have way too many one-sided players....especially in our midfield. None of Harvey, Grant, Simpson, Jones or Rawlings are overly comfortable, or competent, on their opposite foot.
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I think you'll find most (over 50%) of AFL players are one sided players. That is SAD IMHO. No point having a kick to kick session if you don't kick both feet and handball on the opposite side.....see that way too often. :eek:
 
I reckon you people need to get off Boomer's back!

Calling him soft is just harsh and a load of ...........!

I bet this didn't go on last year, he is our reigning B & F and our vice-captain and dserves and has earned our support in tough times..

....hence why we are given the title "SUPPORTERS".

Just lay off him.
 
Well when players aren't performing, they certainly shouldn't be praised. He may well have been B & F last year but if he isn't doing his job then he is letting the whole team down. It's all very well to say "Gee he did well last year so we know he's capable of it, therefore don't bag him now" but he gets paid to do well and that's why there is controversy concerning him.

He needs to lift his game or do something so that a valuable spot in the team isn't wasted. That's basically all there is to it.
 
He's surely been carrying something (injury wise) for much of the year. I reckon we've been harsher on him this year after his early lapses and 'staging' efforts, and probably fair enough too for those. There's no way he's currently fit. Coming on to a forward pocket and pretty much remaining there says a great deal. With his first child having arrived recently too I wouldn't discount THAT event, and the following disruption to his personal life, as having an impact on him either.

I too reckon we'd be better off giving the guy a rest from this week onwards. If we do the nigh on impossible and win both remaining games then sure, I'd reassess him then, but, with that being very unlikely, and with his current form being so $hite, get him right for a decent tilt at an injury free preseason IMHO.

T'toes
 
I agree Twinkletoes.

The guy has been called "soft", has been told he has no passion, it's just ridiculous for people to say that about him, he has earned more respect over the years. It is not "fair enough" to talk about him that way, at all. I don't think that just because he has had a great year, that he is immune to criticism but make the criticism intelligent and constructive...don't just bag someone who has shown time and time again how much he loves this club.

We have discussed here whether the players ever read this or not and I don't know but I would absolutely hate for Boomer to read this and think that NMFC supporters think like that of him.


I can see he has had a bad year but I refuse to believe that he has:

- spat the dummy becoz of his brother
- lost passion
- is soft.

When Boomer does put in another great performance (and that is when NOT if) you baggers should hang your heads in shame.
 
I think on the flipside, we are so hard on him simply because we know what he is capable of producing. On his day, he can turn a match in a short burst. Considering all the talk last year of him signing a lucrative new deal, being made vice captain and his brother coming to the club, I think it's fair to say we all expected a big year. What he has produced has been extremely disappointing. Whether he's injured or not I don't know, but what he's done in the past just serves to raise our expectations of him.
 
Kangaroolz said:
I agree Twinkletoes.

The guy has been called "soft", has been told he has no passion, it's just ridiculous for people to say that about him, he has earned more respect over the years. It is not "fair enough" to talk about him that way, at all. I don't think that just because he has had a great year, that he is immune to criticism but make the criticism intelligent and constructive...don't just bag someone who has shown time and time again how much he loves this club.

We have discussed here whether the players ever read this or not and I don't know but I would absolutely hate for Boomer to read this and think that NMFC supporters think like that of him.


I can see he has had a bad year but I refuse to believe that he has:

- spat the dummy becoz of his brother
- lost passion
- is soft.

When Boomer does put in another great performance (and that is when NOT if) you baggers should hang your heads in shame.
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Nice one.

If the reports of shin splints AND op are true, he really shouldn't be playing though.
 
No, Passmore I agree, he shouldn't be playing but I guess the thinking is he takes an opposition tagger away from another midfielder and there is no worsening of the injury in playing so it is worth it.
 

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