Analysis 2024 National Draft

[Aphrodite]

Broadcast Guide - Live Draft ...

1st Round tonight (20th Nov) from 7.00PM
2nd Round tomorrow night (21st Nov) from 7.00PM

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[ferrisb]

Take away Ashcroft surely the club has identified 3 targets worth the trade up.

I'm hoping we've identified 6 players apart from Ashcroft.

Why???

If we'd identified 6 candidates worth the trade-up, it'd be somewhat of a waste upgrading all the way to pick 3...

 

[Dunna Heartknee]

Per Troy Makepiece

That's the spanner in the works we needed, NICE.

 

[tragic]

All the draft analysts are comparing Jagga Smith to Zac Butters. Is that a valid comp?..l would love a Butters clone in our midfield.

 

[Tjblues]

All the draft analysts are comparing Jagga Smith to Zac Butters. Is that a valid comp?..l would love a Butters clone in our midfield.

He’s not as physical or explosive as butters (obviously he has scope to develop) but there are similarities.

Quick feet/hands

Constant motion at stoppage

Creativity

 

[tarczonandjane]

If Troy Makepeace

Troy Makepeace

Age

45

Ht

175cm

Wt

78kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.9

4star

K

9.8

4star

HB

4.1

3star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.9

4star

No current season stats available

D

8.6

3star

K

6.4

3star

HB

2.2

2star

M

2.6

3star

T

1.8

4star

is correct about North needing to take Tauru at pick #2, then I reckon you could start measuring FOS up for a Carlton guernsey with pick #3

 

[Juice030103]

He’s not as physical or explosive as butters (obviously he has scope to develop) but there are similarities.

Quick feet/hands

Constant motion at stoppage

Creativity

Zak wasn’t doing the inside work Jagga did this year as an 18 year old. Provided he puts on some size, I expect him to have better contested possession and clearance numbers than butters. Not as good a kick as Zak tho

 

[marcmurphy3]

Zak wasn’t doing the inside work Jagga did this year as an 18 year old. Provided he puts on some size, I expect him to have better contested possession and clearance numbers than butters. Not as good a kick as Zak tho

Size aside Jagga reminds me of Daicos more then Butters.

Butters has always been a very direct player. Wins the ball then takes off. Busts through tackles more often then he evades them despite his size.

Jagga more like Daicos. Super awareness and very slippery. Can't touch him. As a junior Daicos was quicker and a better kick. Jagga better around stoppages. Similar endurance profile and ability to rack up the ball.

 

[GT619]

Jagga is Daicos lite. We need him.

Will captain this club if he wears the navy blue.

depends who austin likes more and where he ranks them

 

[CrippaTheGoat9]

If the Tauru/North talk is true, wonder where that leaves the Tiges … do they still take Lalor with pick 1 or do they go with Finn …

 

[YeoShuey]

If the Tauru/North talk is true, wonder where that leaves the Tiges … do they still take Lalor with pick 1 or do they go with Finn …

We’ll most likely take whoever is left between the two. Tough choice for them

 

[teknodeejay]

If the Tauru/North talk is true, wonder where that leaves the Tiges … do they still take Lalor with pick 1 or do they go with Finn …

All the talk is Lalor is a lock at pick 1

 

[CrippaTheGoat9]

All the talk is Lalor is a lock at pick 1

That’s true, but a lot of talk of the Tigers being in love with Finn that’s why they are so keen to get pick 2 off North

 

[Y Goat]

Size aside Jagga reminds me of Daicos more then Butters.

Butters has always been a very direct player. Wins the ball then takes off. Busts through tackles more often then he evades them despite his size.

Jagga more like Daicos. Super awareness and very slippery. Can't touch him. As a junior Daicos was quicker and a better kick. Jagga better around stoppages. Similar endurance profile and ability to rack up the ball.

(Have just watched a 3-4 min vid. of the main contenders being talked about - the 1st one found in search highlights. Based only on these: )

Smith - Agree on the ref. above to NDaicos traits seen in how Jagga carves through, was the first thing I thought too

Draper - thought there’s some Judd like traits with the explosiveness and intensity

Would be excited about either of Smith/Draper joining our midfield, and, also impressed that much of their performances were against the big boys in VFL / SANFL

Lalor - looks great marking up forward, but appears to be playing as a forward target ?! Small sample seen, so no view on midfield prowess

FOS - did not look as explosive as those above, or to have a great set of plays/disposals in the vid I saw, so again only small sample seen, so perhaps there are other highlights for him that puts him in the top few discussions?

On first cut, see Smith or Draper being instant boost to our team in contention now, as well as exciting prospect for long career with the Blues

Open minded about others as I trust LM will be doing lots of due diligence. On that point…
Think a lot of it’s about inner drive and hard mindset - think Selwood, Hodge, Judd … ie. not just skills

 

[Blue_Fusion]

People keep giving FOS a chop out citing injuries impacting his performances this year...

Yet, Lalor and Draper both had injuries to deal with and were still very impressive...

Again, Smith is the safe option, he likes to go backwards with the ball though...

Draper has a higher ceiling imo, his kicking is the concern many have with him, however, he did improve that quite a bit this year imo and with scope for more improvement at AFL level, he could be very damaging. The Judd like traits are accurate imo.

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

l put alot more relevance on performance playing football, Smith is much sharper & quicker than Fos, looking at many highlights Smith is a line breaker with good skills that was not evident with Fos this season

I mean you did mention speed that FOS didn't have. He definitely does, along with agility, athleticism, a great leap and marking skills.

There was evidence of FOS breaking lines this year. Just not as much as last year for obvious reasons.

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

People keep giving FOS a chop out citing injuries impacting his performances this year...

Yet, Lalor and Draper both had injuries to deal with and were still very impressive...

Again, Smith is the safe option, he likes to go backwards with the ball though...

Draper has a higher ceiling imo, his kicking is the concern many have with him, however, he did improve that quite a bit this year imo and with scope for more improvement at AFL level, he could be very damaging. The Judd like traits are accurate imo.

With all of this criticism of FOS, I have to wonder why so many have him in their top 2 in phantoms this year. What are they seeing that this board is not?

 

[BlueTongue]

If Troy Makepeace is correct about North needing to take Tauru at pick #2, then I reckon you could start measuring FOS up for a Carlton guernsey with pick #3

OR, they offer us Pick 2 for 3 & 38 and a handshake we dont take Tauru

 

[TimeFor17]

OR, they offer us Pick 2 for 3 & 38 and a handshake we dont take Tauru

Why would we do that? They want Tauru. We don’t want him. We would be just giving up a good second rounder in a deep draft for no reason. We will get a gun mid at 3 whichever way it goes. And then likely a solid KPD at 38. Then Campo boys later. Very astute business by the club this off season. Can’t wait to see how it ends up.

 

[HarryFlashman]

With all of this criticism of FOS, I have to wonder why so many have him in their top 2 in phantoms this year. What are they seeing that this board is not?

They are unbiased - plenty don’t want to get on board a player and then have us miss out.
Much safer to be backing in others that are very likely to be available at pick 3.
The ol “we got our target” as opposed to we missed our preferred.
Stupid thing is we obviously have at least 3 players identified as a great pick 3 or we wouldn’t have traded up.

 

[the big lebowski]

With North’s mid stocks, I don’t think it would be hard to get agreement for a trade out - the player would get a ripping contract and move to a decent club, you would think one of them would jump at it.
It would be a win/win all around - would take a ballsy list management play thou

Tom Powell and Adam Cerra AFL Stats Comparison

Tom Powell and Adam Cerra AFL Stats Comparison.

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Yeah I saw someone here talking about Cerra’s role in your future midfield. And he reminds me of Tom Powell, especially they way that they are thrown all over the ground.

Once north draft FOS or Draper, a guy like Powell is pushed further back.

LDU
Wardlaw
Sheezel
Mckercher
FOS/Draper

Fortunately sheez and Kerch can play outside the cba. As can FOS if he ends up at North.

 

[Bamboo Harvester]

Why would we do that? They want Tauru. We don’t want him. We would be just giving up a good second rounder in a deep draft for no reason. We will get a gun mid at 3 whichever way it goes. And then likely a solid KPD at 38. Then Campo boys later. Very astute business by the club this off season. Can’t wait to see how it ends up.

Because if we traded up to target FOS, it would pretty much deliver him to us. The Tiggs could take him at pick 1, but there'd be a riot on Punt Rd if they didn't select their Dusty clone.

Don't forget that pick 38 may well get swallowed up by the B Campo bid, so we may well be looking to move it on anyway. Norf get a 2nd round pick this year as well as Tauru, and we'd be asking for a future pick as part of the trade.

It could look something like:
Carlton >> pick 3 and 38 << pick 2 and f2 or f3
or
Carlton >> pick 3 and 38 << pick 2 and exchange of 2nd round picks

 

[GT619]

People keep giving FOS a chop out citing injuries impacting his performances this year...

Yet, Lalor and Draper both had injuries to deal with and were still very impressive...

Again, Smith is the safe option, he likes to go backwards with the ball though...

Draper has a higher ceiling imo, his kicking is the concern many have with him, however, he did improve that quite a bit this year imo and with scope for more improvement at AFL level, he could be very damaging. The Judd like traits are accurate imo.

judd wasn't great by foot himself but got better by using it smarter

 

[The Bighouse]

Won’t want to stuff it up will set them back decades if they do.


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R.Tambling etc….

 

[Wickzki]

Someone who has watched the top picks extensively, tell me this or rank them on each criteria if you like.

1. Best two way player out of the gate

2. Best user of the ball

3. Best athlete (including endurance)

 

[Blue_Fusion]

With all of this criticism of FOS, I have to wonder why so many have him in their top 2 in phantoms this year. What are they seeing that this board is not?

I'd say a lot of it is off the back of his performances last year. He was touted by quite a few to be the runaway #1 this year.

He has got a lot of qualities that you'd typically look for... I just rate Smith, Draper and Lalor a bit higher.

His combine results have boosted/reinforced people's opinion too I believe.

I just think that if we're going to put his less impressive season down to injuries, why were Draper and Lalor able to show more?

Draper had shin splints at the start of the season and ended up being one of the best players for the Panthers at SANFL level in the block of games he got there.

Lalor was hampered through most of the year... hyperextended knee pre-season, hip injury playing school cricket, was in a moon boot for his ankle in May, had a quad niggle after that... then high grade hamstring injury... yet he's touted as #1 pick...

What I don't like about FOS, is the lack of ball winning ability... to me, that screams in and out of games... another Cuningham? Only with a better skill set and athleticism? With pick 3, I'd be looking for a mid with a more consistent impact on games.

Then again, I've been wrong many times when it comes to judging these kids coming through... I reckon the most important factor is between the ears... some thrive in the AFL environment, others succumb to pressure and weight of expectations.