List Mgmt. 2024 List Management thread - Trade Targets Part 2

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Not sure what's worse, people actually taking a twitter troll seriously and talking about Close, or people continuing to underrate Switta.

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Underrate switta? I swear I just read people saying we could swap him for Pickett, as if they're equivalent.
I hope he stays but he is hardly indispensable once Bolton comes across. If he does want to leave Essendon would be mad not to look at him, he is a perfect fit for them until their NGA kid whose name escapes me matures. Their current pick 28 would probably be around the right price too
 
Underrate switta? I swear I just read people saying we could swap him for Pickett, as if they're equivalent.
I hope he stays but he is hardly indispensable once Bolton comes across. If he does want to leave Essendon would be mad not to look at him, he is a perfect fit for them until their NGA kid whose name escapes me matures. Their current pick 28 would probably be around the right price too
They're not talking about a direct swap

Switta and Bolton won't be playing the same role. Different players, different roles, different assets, both needed. Yes, underrated

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If we want to contend we need to stop leaking b22 players. Sure we might get some in, but it’s a sideways move in a way. Switta has two years left. We need to keep for at least one more year to play WITH Bolton to give us the best chance to contend. Leaking uncontracted players is one thing, but we should not be handing them away for the fun of it just because they asked.

The only exception would be if we used him to help get Warner or Pickett. We can get Bolton and Baker (🤢) without him so no need to cave.
 
They're not talking about a direct swap

Switta and Bolton won't be playing the same role. Different players, different roles, different assets, both needed. Yes, underrated

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Bolton will, or should, play in the position/role switta plays more than any other position on the field. Different strengths as players, sure. Bolton is not going to win any pressure act award.

I do think folk need to get over the idea that Bolton will replace Walters, as in play small forward, just because Sonny is old. It would be a total waste of his talent to play him as a deep forward most of the time.
 
Bolton will, or should, play in the position/role switta plays more than any other position on the field. Different strengths as players, sure. Bolton is not going to win any pressure act award.

I do think folk need to get over the idea that Bolton will replace Walters, as in play small forward, just because Sonny is old. It would be a total waste of his talent to play him as a deep forward most of the time.
I think he replaces 2019 Walters, who played that mid/fwd role that Bolton plays

It's very exciting
 
Bolton will, or should, play in the position/role switta plays more than any other position on the field. Different strengths as players, sure. Bolton is not going to win any pressure act award.

I do think folk need to get over the idea that Bolton will replace Walters, as in play small forward, just because Sonny is old. It would be a total waste of his talent to play him as a deep forward most of the time.
Bolton replacing Walters in the best 23 makes a heap of sense. Walters is the weakest link in a potential full strength 2025 forward line and rarely plays midfield. Both those things are problematic. Bolton isn't a strict like for like in game style but that really isn't an issue.

And the idea that we can afford to downgrade our forward pressure is inventive.
 
Bolton replacing Walters in the best 23 makes a heap of sense. Walters is the weakest link in a potential full strength 2025 forward line and rarely plays midfield. Both those things are problematic. Bolton isn't a strict like for like in game style but that really isn't an issue.

And the idea that we can afford to downgrade our forward pressure is inventive.
Bolton should not play as a deep forward for most of the game is what I am saying. He should be playing mid forward. Which us where switta has been playing for two years. And why switta doesn't do forward pressure so much, more of his pressure acts are between the arcs not inside our f50
 

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It's a bit of a intangible about Pearce's return, but certainly he would've had a high potential to prevent critical moments in those last three games that would've turned those results.

Almost definitely he would've had a huge hand in the Geelong game where Dangerfield marked and kicked that crucial goal in the last. Replace Draper in that contest and Pearce would've had the strength and experience to not be caught out of position there.

But such is footy.
Also the Hawks game when Sicily marked and goaled wouldnt have happened with Moose on the goal line
 
In a future best 23, what position would Allan play for us?

Allan's runs through and out of congestion are his most eye-catching aspect but I feel like he just puts the boot to ball before even half considering what / where / how and wastes the advantage he has created for himself by bombing blindly; he plays like a backman who is just trying to clear the ball at all costs. He tackles well though and has a good technique and also has a good "don't argue" which is useful in congestion; he is not crazy fast but when he has momentum he will be a hard player to stop.

I can see him being a skinny side wingman longer term if he can build up his endurance. I think the club that is drafting him will be going for that, rather than a HBF (you need to be more useful to the counterattack by foot for that) or an onballer (doesn't get enough of it regularly enough for that role). I think he could also be a good half forward flank, although he has not played there much. Basically to begin with you can see him being useful in a few roles without being a star at any one of them.

Of the West Aussies, I prefer Hamish Davis over Allan; for mine Davis has better decision making and agility even though he has the dodgier looking kicking mechanics and is probably not as fast as Allan.
 
I don't think Fyfe or Walters are close to beat 23 next year. Erasmus just needs to play.

Don't want to see them play WAFL all next year. Hope we have had a tough discussion with them.
Then prepare to be frustrated when both are walk up starts regardless of form.
 
I worry Allan's disposal is too big a flaw, I really don't like it. Love everything else though...
If what you say is true he will fall into the second round.
A lot of clubs have been burned in recent years picking first rounders with bad disposal.

I haven’t watched the kid myself so only going off you and Ysaye comments.

If the draft is a good and hyped up as everyone says, I don’t see why a guy with dodgy disposal would be a top 15 pick.
 
Keep your eyes on Wagner.

Will be a young family soon, who from what I’ve heard may want to head back to VIC to be with family. Probably not this year but maybe next.
 
If what you say is true he will fall into the second round.
A lot of clubs have been burned in recent years picking first rounders with bad disposal.

I haven’t watched the kid myself so only going off you and Ysaye comments.

If the draft is a good and hyped up as everyone says, I don’t see why a guy with dodgy disposal would be a top 15 pick.

Disposal always looks more average when you’re playing inside mid. It’s not elite but he’s not going to be seen a butcherer of the footy at the next level IMO.

Love the way he moves for a player of his size. He’s going to be a gun.

Someone asked earlier what position he’d play at AFL level. I genuinely can’t answer that but the possibilities are pretty close to anywhere. Need a winger - put him there. Need an inside mid - Probably needs some kgs but he’ll be able to do it. Need a HBF - No issues putting him there either. Haven’t seen him up forward tbh but I reckon he could do that pretty well too.
 
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