List Mgmt. 2024 List Management Part 2 📃

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TDK going out of the side injured is one of the main reasons the team lost all momentum. His rise coincided with our rise to 2nd, his injury has coincided with our fall out of the 8. His bounce around the ground and around the midfield especially when the ball is on the ground somewhat made up for our midfields lack of leg speed. Don’t ask me how that’s possible but to my eye since he’s been out of the midfield we’ve had no drive and look like a tortoise.

I’d go as far as to say I’d rather trade Walsh than trade TDK. Guys like him don’t grow on trees.

Madness to suggest trading him. We have to do everything we can to lock him away long term.

Pitto must be traded for whatever we can get our hands on and we need to lock TDK away to a long term deal.
It's not madness to suggest he's our most valuable trade asset.
We've a bloated cap & top heavy, shallow list, the absurdity of this thread is the discussion around jettisoning the whipping boys as if it'll secure anything approaching a meaningful return at the trade table.
 
You trade him for two firsts this year and use one to get a B+ ruckman from another club. You don't spend $1m on a ruck.

He's far & away our most valuable trade chip.
I don't believe he'll be moved on but a significant return would go some way to addressing the holes in the side.

Tdk was routinely getting 20+ possessions and 5-10 tackles and clearances when he was on fire mid season- he plays like a big midfielder - so he’s a bit more valuable than the average ruckman.

We need to keep him as his importance has been highlighted by his absence. If we are going to trade players out I’d be looking at Pittonet, Owies, Carroll and possibly Durdin, Cottrell and Motlop while we can get some value for them.

We also need to get Cerra and Walsh healthy again. They are really important for us. The other injury prone players Martin, Marchbank, Cuningham and S Durdin need to be delisted.

Austen needs to get the off season right otherwise he’ll be out the door at the end of next year and the painful 2016 rebuild might have been all for nothing more than a late season run to a preliminary final in 2023.
 

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Tdk was routinely getting 20+ possessions and 5-10 tackles and clearances when he was on fire mid season- he plays like a big midfielder - so he’s a bit more valuable than the average ruckman.

We need to keep him as his importance has been highlighted by his absence. If we are going to trade players out I’d be looking at Pittonet, Owies, Carroll and possibly Durdin, Cottrell and Motlop while we can get some value for them.

We also need to get Cerra and Walsh healthy again. They are really important for us. The other injury prone players Martin, Marchbank, Cuningham and S Durdin need to be delisted.

Austen needs to get the off season right otherwise he’ll be out the door at the end of next year and the painful 2016 rebuild might have been all for nothing more than a late season run to a preliminary final in 2023.

He was in good form, I agree.
I'm not campaigning to trade him, I just noted that he's our most valuable tradeable asset.

You aren't going to get much of anything for those you've noted, which is the reason why people are happy to push them toward the exit & on the other hand, why people squirm at the prospect of trading TDK.
 
I still think next year is when the big calls will be made.
Cerra, Saad, Kemp, Hewett, SOJ, Motlop, Doc, Kennedy, McGovern and Newman OOC. All on reasonable money and all replaceable. (A couple like Saad and Newman more to do with age)
 
People wanting to trade tdk is madness. Could be the best ruckman in 12 months time.
Tdk is and should be untouchable imo. But I’d be ok with letting Harry go. I know it’s an unpopular decision.

I think people can see that we are paying 7 players unbelievable money and the return isn’t what it should be with the amount we are paying players, when other clubs aren’t having 7 players on huge money but are working hard as a team as compared to us, so it’s normal for supporters to think us scenarios as to how we can better our team.
 
He’s a 195cm bean pole. A jet of a VFL footballer, don’t know whether his attributes translate to AFL level
Well I think he would be good lead up player. At least he would take a decent back man and open up the forward 50.

Tbh I’d back him in. May not be perfect but has plenty of positives to make a go of it imo
 

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He was in good form, I agree.
I'm not campaigning to trade him, I just noted that he's our most valuable tradeable asset.

You aren't going to get much of anything for those you've noted, which is the reason why people are happy to push them toward the exit & on the other hand, why people squirm at the prospect of trading TDK.
I just can't bare to watch pittonet any more. I would bring in Mirkov against West Coast.
 
I know. My guess is they were hoping Doc could make a return come finals so didn’t use it. That part makes sense as Doc has come a very long way quicker than expected
Take your pick who we could've put on the long term injury list
 
The pick that still annoys me is Binns. It has absolutely nothing to do with the player but can’t understand why we chased the type. Our list lacked dynamic players so we take two one paced guys in Hollands and Binns one after the other.
Take a look at the picks taken after binns it looks like an extremely week draft
 
I wonder if North would offer up pick 2 for either Walsh or Harry? I think they would and any chance they can get a big name through the door I feel they would jump at the chance.

Obviously 2 of our top tier players but could we use pick 2 to better effect by 1. Removing some salary and 2. Bringing in some more top talented youth.

Not a decision a club would make lightly but I just don’t see our club being a real threat until we have more quality youth added to the list along with a better balanced team.
 
Last year the Hawks, a rebuilding team, brought in via trade.

Chol
Ginnivan
Dambrosio

Then drafted Watson

All their trades cost stuff all and all have filled a need.

If Austin is any good, there’s no reason why we can’t find players who are cheap to fill roles in our side.
At the moment I get the feeling Austin is using ChatGPT to do his recruiting.
 
Club have their scalp this year, in Russell.
So coaching and list management departments will get a hall pass…

We are in desperate need of an accountable KPD, McGovern and Kemp are both undersized and simply don’t cut it…

So we are reportedly chasing another undersized, broken down has been in Haynes… 🤷‍♂️

We also desperately need a speedy midfielder or two and class small forwards…

But have limited cap space and limited trade resources…

Really don’t see the list being much different next year, we’ll have the same holes…
 
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