No way Smillie starts anywhere other than in the heat of battle, in the centre square. The kid is built for it
Player Watch #16 Josh Smillie
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the need for a narrative is desperate.
It is a Josh Smillie world, he can do so much more!!!
you need to follow Carlton and Cripps, Smillie offers so much more!!!
Magic disagrees, that’s a compliment right?
Seriously bud, he’s been a star playing midfield his whole junior career and you think he’s a CHB. Reality is he was rated as pick 1 in the entire draft in July as a MID.
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he has not been a star playing midfield his whole junior career.
that, boys and girls, is called fake news
in any case, the AFL sorts out the wheat from the chaff
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True but it wasn’t very effective and he ended up losing confidence and form
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Did you remember a time when Mathew Richardson was not a winger until the very end, even though he went very well young for the Allies on a wing when the representative team had more overall talent so young Richo is pushed to the wing, but for RFC he was a 'key position player' which could have well influenced us not getting Pavlich only to get Fiora who was tried on the wing and failed to make it over time???
Richo was a bit of a athletic freak. Smillie has his own unique traits. Does Smillie run like Richo?? Does Smillie jump and mark like Richo??? no, so Smillie most likely will not be a wingman like Richo but we cannot rule anything out. Still harder for Archer to stop Richo on a wing. The point being it is easier for Smillie to win and be in contests at the nexus point between the backline and midfield because Smillie does not have the athletic profile of Richo but has far better disposal arguably.
Theoretically speaking if one had Smillie on Richo if Richo was moved to the wing it would suit Richo but if Smillie was on Richo at CHB it could be to Smillie's advantage based on the exploits of Glenn Archer especially when the space is more confined and conjested utilising his IQ and he can get complimentary support from his team mates and vice versa and still go in the guts when suits to win vital contests with more energy
Richo was a bit of a athletic freak. Smillie has his own unique traits. Does Smillie run like Richo?? Does Smillie jump and mark like Richo??? no, so Smillie most likely will not be a wingman like Richo but we cannot rule anything out. Still harder for Archer to stop Richo on a wing. The point being it is easier for Smillie to win and be in contests at the nexus point between the backline and midfield because Smillie does not have the athletic profile of Richo but has far better disposal arguably.
Theoretically speaking if one had Smillie on Richo if Richo was moved to the wing it would suit Richo but if Smillie was on Richo at CHB it could be to Smillie's advantage based on the exploits of Glenn Archer especially when the space is more confined and conjested utilising his IQ and he can get complimentary support from his team mates and vice versa and still go in the guts when suits to win vital contests with more energy
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Yeah he was pretty up and down in terms of output and if anything it was more about those few moments where it looked like we definitely have something to work with
Just going off that example (small sample size I know) but seems Yze is willing to back kids in to get a taste of the hard stuff
I like the idea of it but I also think about Jack Ross who a lot of us questioned the move to play him outside early on and get him to shed the kgs and ultimately his best games have come from when he has played on the wing/ outside mid so the decision to play him outside seems like the correct one
Even if it was and still is an unpopular one
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Means you're on the right track with your posting.
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Magic is a smarty guy, he can be a bit ambitious sometimes but he does know his stuff
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Magic doesn't post for blowjobs so ease up
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I for one love Magic’s posts - more twists and turns than the Paris to Dakar
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Exactly, we should embrace him
We lost 4 or 5 guys playing mid forward, Bolton, Baker, Dusty, Graham, even Pickett. TT and JH rotate forward.
Lalor, will play fwd a bit, MRJ more mid time for sure, Smilie be a tricky match up rotating fwd.
Alger and Hotton may rotate in the middle.
Kmac2 will have a better tank after a preseason.
Lalor, will play fwd a bit, MRJ more mid time for sure, Smilie be a tricky match up rotating fwd.
Alger and Hotton may rotate in the middle.
Kmac2 will have a better tank after a preseason.
So are you arguing that Richo would have made a better wingman than a forward, because that line is hard to push considering Richo's status as probably the best forward (modern) we have seen behind Royce Hart.
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Get in touch with your inner “Magic”??
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Wheat isn’t present in chaff so what’s your point ?
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There is no argument, Richo was a better wingman.
he nearly won a unexpected( ie without the media etc.. hype pumping up expectations prior to the vote) brownlow as a wingman
nevertheless at those times we did not have many who could kick goals for us and Richo was a great mark, so Richo was always useful and entertaining
No argument you say. I would suggest that you might be on your own on this one.
Richo was one of the best we have seen in the modern era. Key forward is a lot more difficult a position than wing, Brownlow or not. Who was the better player, Carey or Greig.
Of all the great players named over the years, few are wingman, most are key forwards or midfielders. Matthews, Lockett, Skilton, Carey, Abletts, Barlett, Hart, Dunstall etc.
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I will say this.
For RFC to win a premiership with Richo he needed to play wing.
Meaning RFC needed others to help Richo kick goals to win premiership rather than Richo as a forward soley.
Ablett Snr was a better wingman or half forward. How many players kick 14 goals/ off a flank???
Buddy was a flanker. Was the Swans better the year before because Buddy retired?
Carey was more important because he won games as a CHF/FF hybrid. That does not mean Carey was better than Lockett but he could hold his own in the important position of CHF
Lockett was best in his youth when he could jump and get closer to CHF, Mathews played midfield and forward.
Did Ablett Snr not win a premiership because in the GF he played forward despite kicking 9 goals and winning a Norm Smith?? The point being if Ablett Snr kicked 9 goals from a half forward flank in the GF would Geelong have won the game??
The point is the team wins premierships and you try and maximise individual efforts as part of the overall team effort.
If Richo adds more to the team playing on the wing and get others to kick more goals that is what you do.
Likewise if Smillie adds more at times from the backline apart from the midfield and helps our forwards get better looks for us to stop more goals and kick more goals that is what we do if we get better mids rather than relying on a weaker backline setup to make the overall team better which is what counts winning premierships.
Richo kicked a lot of points. Goal accuracy was important. If Richo was winning more up the ground and others where kicking more more accurately it would have been a better setup and the team would have been in more sync, more confident, more belief, more robust. Like missing free throws in basketball, missing goals hurts unlike having someone like Tony Hall helping Hawks win premierships kicking goals in a team setup
When I look back on it, Richo running like a gazelle is more indicative to me of his strength than him kicking goals including those where he was running out the back. He could run, leap and take a great mark, but forwards is about kicking goals and putting the score on the board with scoreboard pressure finishing off team efforts. The obsession of Richo being a forward probably inhibited us most winning a premiership with him because we needed a better team setup.
It is interesting you talk about Hart, Greig because that was an earlier era and the game has moved on since then but back then isolated football was more key arguably back then rather than team combinations as their was less run and cover in the game while Barlett could play a few different roles, midfield, forward at least. look at a player like Dunstall, if he was not a accurate kick for goal he probably would not have made it, let alone be a great
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