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Its a bit of a stretch to call the Richmond v Collingwood game this week an ‘elimination final’ on both sides of the coin. While it is a possibility, Richmond are now a fairly remote chance of missing out on the finals, so its not a win or bust scenario. And Collingwood’s season is virtually...

So why do you just continue to ignore the context of those attendances? Some of the points you make are fine but really turning a blind eye to this makes it hard to take you seriously. Hawthorn as a top 4 contender against a fellow top 4 contender will always draw a huge neutral crowd...

The only times Hawthorn draws well in games against the historically lower drawing clubs is when they play teams like Sydney and Geelong, when both teams are at the peak of their powers. Hell if i lived in Melbourne(other then going to the tiges game), if the hawks were playing a top 4...

I may be mistaken but didn't Collingwood draw 36.9k vs the Suns at the MCG in 2012?? And that's coming off a grand final in 2011. Richmond hasn't even won a final in 14 years, it would be fool hardy to suggest they have peaked in attendance terms.