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Strengths Passing accuracy Kicking High reach Vertical leap Weaknesses As identified he goes missing in games. Does one thing then waits for the next thing. Value ? Who knows , the hope is this is the kick in the backside he needs. I cant see anything more than a 3rd rounder if he doesnt...

Thats the issue I have and why I , as a nobody supporter, want Carlton to do all the work and get 13. It shouldnt be up to the AFC to do the work. If you are buying my house dont give me 2 cars and a block of land you dont own and then tell me to get the best value for them.

Because your win-win analysis is flawed from the get go of points v actual pick. Its like me saying the Crows give Carlton pick 53,54, 55, 57 , 59 and 71 and Carlton gives us pick 1 because the points add up to 1. Thats the misinterpretation over the value or worth of points.

If you think the deal you proposed is 'as good as' then go and get it from a club

Ok, off you go and do the deal that gets us that late 1st rounder. Its not up to us to do the renovations once you move in

Its difficult. Depends on who wants who out An example. You knock on my door and ask me how much to sell you my house. I'm not giving you the low price. If I come to you though then yes I will take whatever is reasonable. Its not a give away either. Uncontracted then right now the lowest is a...

Like Geelong and Richmond and Dogs before they won a flag? A Blip, a mere inconvenience. Am I happy? Nope but I dont see culture issues. I see other issues that annoy me but toxic morale ? Nope

Like playing in a GF last year? That kind of excelling? Give me shit morale any day over 5 pick 1s

I didnt hear it but how does that help McGovern in 2 years time? Sure it hurts the Crows having to carry him and look for ways and means to get him to play . But if McGovern is of a mercenary bent then it doesnt help him at all.

Right. So complain about asking a question with an unknowable answer then asks a question with an unknowable answer Its an ill-defined question. You first have to state what parameters define general trade movement v get me out of here . Sure requesting a trade to Carlton is indeed a big red...

Imagine if the Crows held out. The Blues supporters might even raise an angry snarl #BigFish #EmptyNet

Lol. Changes everything. Pick 12 , save yourself the angst

I disagree. There is no discussion surrounding ' yeah sorry Reidy its difficult ' . It also changes the sandwich SOS has to sell.

Changes the landscape

Sure throw the cheap shot in. Just determines the poster you are really. My point is every Carlton supporter banked on pick 12 PP. Suddenly its gone and all these scenarios arise Send Macadam to the Gold Coast for all I care

And if you dont? Dont hate the player ehh you know the rest

Carn Marty its only social media dont get too upset ok

As long as he doesnt bother our board he can go wherever he likes

2 weeks ago Carlton supporters were happy and resigned to using PP12 to get McGovern. The minute the AFL said no suddenly pick 24 and a mature recruit they dont even own is a good price and Crows fans should be happy. heck off numpties

Missed 10 games and played 2 games under sufferance. That can screw your stats , but sure averaging 20.7 stats is so disappointing

Nice avatar to post

1. I tried to find the Tom Lynch Adelaide thread 2. People have been talking about Adelaide having multi picks in this years draft using Sloane and Lynch. I used this to say that that idea is off the table. If eth-dogs post about Callan wards sister is ok then i figured this is. But sure if...

Take one of those compo/trade ideas off the table

It has been mentioned in some quarters. I have looked for links to stories but cant find any.

Brisbane can ask but IF Ollie goes anywhere it will be Victoria The issue is Ollie wants 2 years then look at offers. Port dont want to lose him and think he is a great prospect and are offering 4-5 years. Ironic this time its the club offering more than the player wants to comitt to. Maybe...

These are the Crows fans feelings on Sloane. Love him and want him to sign but if he doesnt then thanks and good luck and give us picks :) I think Ollie is staying after thinking he is going. Just down to how long for I think

Its more the rumoured extra work for the missus. Sloane might pick up $200,000 a year but Belinda has an opportunity to be looking at $500,000 +

I'll also throw in a surfboard

A lot of sales are on potential and he has potential to be in the top 10

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